I haven't gone back thru all of a four yr old thread.
Whats the difference between RED, BLACK and BLUE label Diamond tables?
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If you want "Crib Notes," a summary and demonstration of the important facts can be found here:
I've played on D's since they came out. Well aware of all their versions and how they play. I never really minded how the Red's played. Sure they banked short but it wasn't a huge adjustment. I went to DCC in '07 and never heard any top player whining about them. Mostly on here.
Have you seen my table comparison video:I've played on D's since they came out. Well aware of all their versions and how they play. I never really minded how the Red's played. Sure they banked short but it wasn't a huge adjustment. I went to DCC in '07 and never heard any top player whining about them. Mostly on here.
The Diamond table tests start at the 8:26 point. I personally consider that a huge adjustment!
I'm no scientist. We just adjusted. Others tend to whine.
I can adjust on a Diamond also. I would just prefer not need to adjust so much. The kicking and banking systems in the video work very well (with very little adjustment, if any) on all tables in good condition except Diamonds. To me, that is a problem, and it should have been fixed a long time ago (ideally, before they sold any tables).
But you are right. To be a good pool player, you need to be able to adjust to differences in equipment and conditions.
DCC started when, '99? There were some complaints about the tables but not much. I know Efren never said one thing. He just smiled and beat everyone's ass. The Blue's didn't come out until '10 iirc.
From what I have read in these various threads the banking issue has been resolved with the "Blue Label Spec" tables being sold currently.
The Blue label Diamonds I've played on also play fast and bank short (compared to most other tables). The next time I have convenient access, I'll do another video.
Thanks .. very curious .. my Diamond furniture model table will deliver next Tuesday .. built to Blue Label specs .. whatever that really means.
Means it will be damn fine to own. Enjoy and invite us over.
I was falling out of pool around then and remember the first diamonds that began trickling into our area and they were brutal. Oak red labels.
People loved them or hated them.
I was in the latter zone.
I guess it's easier to adjust if you're Efren. I know the first time I played on a red label 7 footer I couldn't come close to making a bank shot. I hated it. I've adjusted somewhat but still prefer Brunswick. Maybe because that's what I played on for decades before Diamond showed up. I just feel more "at home" on the Brunswick.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that. The newest pool room to open in Vegas has 30 Rasson tables…
Bangin Ballz. Nice spot but just one room. I still do not believe that they will a major player in commercial rooms in the US. I think a LOT of room owners want to buy American-made stuff, aka Diamond, and also the supply chain is going to be kinda jacked for the forseeable future. Getting tables/parts from Asia may be difficult for some time. Lot of rooms in my general area(Midwest) are upgrading tables and EVERY one of them is buying Diamonds. Rasson makes a quality product but i don't see them outrunning Diamond any time soon.
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Little different having springy rails on a 9 ft versus the same springy rails on a 7 ft. And extra inch or two sometimes does not make a difference on a 9 foot, but locks you up pretty good on a 7 ft. And not really good to complain about the folks putting on the tournament. The fact is, even Diamond knows it was a bad design and changed it.