whats wrong with contact point 2 contact point???

[Pidge]

What's wrong with any or no aiming system? There are flaws in every system because everyone is better at doing different things. No matter how accurate or perfect a system is, if that system say requires seeing lines but a person isn't capable of seeing lines then it wont work. CP2CP is as good as any other system out there. If anyone tries telling you different they're an idiot.

 

[HawaiianEye]

CP2CP is as good as any other system out there. If anyone tries telling you different they're an idiot.

I can agree with that!

If you can make a ball with any sort of consistency, you have a "system"...whether or not you know it, can recognize it, or explain it is something else.

If it works, keep doing it. If it doesn't, figure out why and fix it or find something that helps you MORE.

 

[AtLarge]

I said perceive the CP on the back of the CB, not look at. Perceiving it from the front of the CB is a reasonable method. ...

No need to look at, perceive, or give any thought to the CB contact point on the back of the CB. Just look at the front of the CB and find the spot that is equal but opposite to the intended contact point on the OB. Then send that CB point at that OB point.

If it helps, think of the two balls as flat disks. If the intended contact point on the OB is ½" (but don't actually think in terms of numbers, just the portion of the ball) to the left of center on the OB disk, aim to hit it with the point that is ½" to the right of center on the CB disk.

[Note -- If the OB appears smaller than the CB, take that into account in establishing the "equal" distances, i.e., use the same portion or fractional part of each ball.]

 

[336Robin]

Aiming in General

If it isnt contact point to contact point, then how does one aim? or feel the shot from that aim?

Ive always understood that the contact point is in the center of the cut of cue ball on the object ball, it would seem to me that knowing how you are going to address the object ball looking down the edge of the delivering cue ball would be the only way to aim in order to deliver consistently.

 

[Ratta]

What's wrong with any or no aiming system? There are flaws in every system because everyone is better at doing different things. No matter how accurate or perfect a system is, if that system say requires seeing lines but a person isn't capable of seeing lines then it wont work. CP2CP is as good as any other system out there. If anyone tries telling you different they're an idiot.

Well said!

Every human has a different ability to learn- which way it works better for him. Same counts for aiming systems- Some have amazing visualisation skills- these guys can work wonderful for example with ghost-ball.
So many pro s and contra s for so many aiming systems-- an open mind, and to respect other ways is the key for earning knowledge and satisfaction

True knowledge just comes from pure expirience. Not from keep saying *not it doesn t work*

have a smooth stroke eveyone.

 

[LAMas]

Can you imagine proportions on different size balls?
Can you effect a parallel shifting of the cue to the side accurately?

Then.....



Powerpoint can't make A=A or B=B dimensionally accurate but you get the idea?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=392507

 

[duckie]

If it isnt contact point to contact point, then how does one aim? or feel the shot from that aim?

Ive always understood that the contact point is in the center of the cut of cue ball on the object ball, it would seem to me that knowing how you are going to address the object ball looking down the edge of the delivering cue ball would be the only way to aim in order to deliver consistently.

Well it just might be contact patch.

After seeing LAmas drawing and PJ fractional drawing, and overlapp drawings ......contact patch is the simplest aiming method there is.

There is no difference imagining a contact point v a contact patch. The only places these two points exist anyway is in your head.

Using LAMas drawing as a example.....the contact point is offset from where the CB needs to be whereas with contact patch, there is never a offset.

 

[Straightpool_99]

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[Mikjary]

CP2CP is a great way to aim. It works very well for shots many people have problems with, including blind cuts etc. Personally I feel that on certain combinations and some cutshots where there is an almost universal tendency to overcut the shot, contact point aiming will be much better than many similar methods because it helps you to ignore the faulty perception and line up to the correct "fuller" aim. If your vision is in any way blurry, then you will have problems, otherwise there is really nothing wrong with it.

Like you said, pivoting can cause problems for some people. Likewise, others will have problems perceiving contact points and keeping the line of the shot at the same time. If it works for you, stick with it.

I actually pivot with CP2CP aiming and find that it's very accurate. You're right about it being a great way to aim.

Best,
Mike

 

[336Robin]

The Patch

Well it just might be contact patch.

After seeing LAmas drawing and PJ fractional drawing, and overlapp drawings ......contact patch is the simplest aiming method there is.

There is no difference imagining a contact point v a contact patch. The only places these two points exist anyway is in your head.

Using LAMas drawing as a example.....the contact point is offset from where the CB needs to be whereas with contact patch, there is never a offset.

So in using the Contact Patch are you looking at the object ball at address or the contact patch you envision behind the object ball?

 

[Ralph Kramden]

Well it just might be contact patch.

After seeing LAmas drawing and PJ fractional drawing, and overlapp drawings ......contact patch is the simplest aiming method there is.

There is no difference imagining a contact point v a contact patch. The only places these two points exist anyway is in your head.

Using LAMas drawing as a example.....the contact point is offset from where the CB needs to be whereas with contact patch, there is never a offset.

Some fascinating reading material for duckie........... http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/Cranfield_arrow.pdf


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