What's your estimated fargo rating if you beat 9 ball ghost more often than not?

[Freddyfast9]

I've posted a few vids over the years and I look just like a 600 fargo player.

They have me at 634 which is plenty fair to me
At 57 years old, I was happy to start playing again after 20 years

I bought this table 5 months ago and I’ve been playing on it for three months about 40 minutes a night

I am going to contact Seyberts about these pockets are supposed to be pro cut and maybe they do play a little loose but I’ve played on plenty of tighter gambling against the ghost two decades ago lol

For 9k with everything and waiting til I’m a fossil to get this table it should play right

 

[Coos Cues]

These are supposed to be pro cut but I’m having my doubts

You're doing good Fredie. Your speed is probably right where you think.

Here are the pro cut pockets on my nine foot diamond pro, as set up by the Real King Cobra if you need a reference.

 

[Freddyfast9]

You're doing good Fredie. Your speed is probably right where you think.

Here are the pro cut pockets on my nine foot diamond pro, as set up by the Real King Cobra if you need a reference.


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Thanks coos one quickly this morning 11 minute race to 7

 

[maha]

those that cant find action are too good and make others scared to play them. running out on someone who hasnt a chance to win anyway just drives them away.

if you live in a gambling area then there are lots of players around for 300 a set or 100 a game. until you slaughter a few then all your action is driven away by yourself. winning money gambling is mostly being a good salesman not a good player.

 

[wealmostlostdetroit]

Hugely depends on the table and break rules.

Easiest:
1 on the spot, 7' Valley with buckets, break from anywhere ... maybe 520 Fargo.
Toughest:
9 on the spot, C8B or UK Open 3.9" table, MB break rules, old cloth ... maybe 750 Fargo.

 

[easy-e]

Please do, and GL in tourney. I'm sure you can bust the 9ball ghost but the 10B just breaks tougher.
I'd guess you're even money on the 10B ghost on a reasonable tight 9 footer. How have you done against the 10B in the past?
I don't think I've been brave enough to try it.
Is there a new gunslinger at MOBs or is it something else?

It's the Sam Lenschow memorial tourney. $3k added. Even races. Big table on winner's side, BB on loser's side. The tope 4 or 5 in Phoenix aren't there for the event so I got a chance!

As far as the 10-ball ghost goes, I have been a slight favorite over him (maybe 60/40) with a template, but have a tough time winning without one. If I'm consistently making 2-3 balls per break, it's way easier!

 

[The_JV]

I can't be bothered to make the extra effort for less than constructive criticism posting up in threads...

I stopped recording myself after those few ghost challenge entries. Although some had commented that I was being sensitive to criticism. The truth was I was simply attempting to discuss my style of play and explain why I thought what I was doing was a solid approach. The comments were welcomed, but just because someone on the internet has an opinion, doesn't mean they know what they're are talking about. ...and that isn't meant to imply that I do.

There are some on AZB who's "playing insight" I value. The trick to this place is just identifying the tiny kernels of wheat from the dunes of chaff.

 

[The_JV]

I’m thinking these aren’t pro cut even though they’re 4.5 inches

Forgive the Diamond jargon indifferent, but what exactly is "Pro-Cut"...? ...and what makes it special compared to, I guess, everything else that isn't pro-cut?

 

[Cameron Smith]

Honestly, I don’t know but several guys on here have said that my pockets play really loose

I’ve had several players 700 Fargo above come over and say the same thing

Where there’s smoke there’s fire, or if it looks like a duck walks like a duck it’s a duck I guess all those coming to play here

There are two pockets to play pretty tough in the corners and then there are a couple that play really loose

There’s a Pool Hall in Livonia and one in Adrian Michigan and I have to agree their pro cut 4.5” play tougher

I don’t know diamonds that well, but generally if you are maintaining your cloth then the pockets will play more forgiving than at a pool hall. I don’t have a diamond, but at 4.25” it could feel pretty forgiving when I played everything at pocket speed. I currently have them at about 3.8” ( long story, I regret it and I didn’t ask for it) and only now will it reject anything but a perfectly struck ball. Though at certain speeds and spins it will still take the odds errant ball.

 

[tomatoshooter]

For 9k with everything and waiting til I’m a fossil to get this table it should play right

How long was the wait, and was shipping and setup on top of the 9k?

Here are the pro cut pockets on my nine foot diamond pro, as set up by the Real King Cobra if you need a reference.

Those look exactly like the pockets at Hard Times. With fresh cloth they are quite forgiving. It's probably not accurate to say they play easier than the 5" pockets on my 8' Olhausen, but they play much bigger than they look and the Olhausen plays much smaller than it looks on firmly hit balls. I think the back row of GCs is 4 1/4, and, man, I need that extra 1/4".

Forgive the Diamond jargon indifferent, but what exactly is "Pro-Cut"...? ...and what makes it special compared to, I guess, everything else that isn't pro-cut?

I think pro cut is 4.5" and league cut is 4.75". I haven't seen any reference to different facing angles.

 

[JolietJames]

Okay I stopped at our local room that has pro-cut pocket 7-footers. I only had a half hour so I played the pro ghost one race to seven. 7-2 me with 3 B&Rs.
I was breaking well which helped. Fargo 620ish depending on the day.
Pockets look right?

 

[Freddyfast9]

Okay I stopped at our local room that has pro-cut pocket 7-footers. I only had a half hour so I played the pro ghost one race to seven. 7-2 me with 3 B&Rs.
I was breaking well which helped. Fargo 620ish depending on the day.
Pockets look right?

Excellent set Joliet I got the god ghost 7-1
tonight

634 fargo

 

[JolietJames]

Excellent set Joliet I got the god ghost 7-1

Nice job.
Do your pockets look like the pic I posted? The room owner claims all his tables are 4.5" pro-cut. He also mentioned the slates are longer than some. According to him, some of these tables have slates that are 1 inch longer than others and he received both styles. He had them replace the shorter slate tables so they would all be the same. I don't know if that's legit or not.

 

[The_JV]

On a nine-footer with 4 1/2" pockets, I'd guess you need to be at least 670 Fargo before you are a favorite to beat the 9ball ghost. On 4 1/4" pockets, I think only a 700+ Fargo would be a favorite to beat the 9ball ghost.

I have 4.25" at home. I'll start keeping score again for the next while and report back.

Only had two opportunities on separate days since this. Played normal ghost race to 7, 9fter, 4.25", MR break rules. Fargo 678

1. 3-7 loss ...Had a rough morning...lol
2. 7-6 win ....Had a 5-2 then a 6-4 lead, but the gods were out to get me before I overcame and grinded out the decider...lol

Although it's only two samples. I can say that my struggles at any time appear to be merely luck of the draw after the break. I purposely played the MR break with real life opponent intent and didn't try to tweak to prevent clusters. The BIH makes nearly any open rack a certainty IF I keep my head in the game. That's always a struggle when I'm technically in practice mode. As always with the ghost. These "bad break" situations would normally be dealt with a safe/push out.

 

[sjm]

Only had two opportunities on separate days since this. Played normal ghost race to 7, 9fter, 4.25", MR break rules. Fargo 678

1. 3-7 loss ...Had a rough morning...lol
2. 7-6 win ....Had a 5-2 then a 6-4 lead, but the gods were out to get me before I overcame and grinded out the decider...lol

Although it's only two samples. I can say that my struggles at any time appear to be merely luck of the draw after the break. I purposely played the MR break with real life opponent intent and didn't try to tweak to prevent clusters. The BIH makes nearly any open rack a certainty IF I keep my head in the game. That's always a struggle when I'm technically in practice mode. As always with the ghost. These "bad break" situations would normally be dealt with a safe/push out.

Keep on plugging!

 

[9BallKY]

I beat the ghost 7-4 last night on my 9 ft Diamond. Was up 4-0 had 7 and 9 on the table straight in two foot shot just draw back about a foot for the 9 and I threw my elbow out and miscued. Then I had two games in a row where the balls were just really tough. Got lucky and made the 9 in the side on the break one game. When I was on the hill I didn’t hit the bih shot good and got on the wrong side of the 2 tried to get between two balls and hooked myself but I made a decent jump shot and got out for the victory. I would post the video but I looked pretty rough since I haven’t played in a couple months.

 

[SBC]

They have me at 634 which is plenty fair to me
At 57 years old, I was happy to start playing again after 20 years

I bought this table 5 months ago and I’ve been playing on it for three months about 40 minutes a night

I am going to contact Seyberts about these pockets are supposed to be pro cut and maybe they do play a little loose but I’ve played on plenty of tighter gambling against the ghost two decades ago lol

For 9k with everything and waiting til I’m a fossil to get this table it should play right

On the first video you posted. A few balls looked to slide down the rail....common of new cloth.

Didn't see one on this last video because you shot em all straight in.

 

[SBC]

Excellent set Joliet I got the god ghost 7-1
tonight

634 fargo

Think you went 7 -2
Had no easy position off the 1 ball and missed the shot
The 4 rolled in front of the 2 on a break...no shot

Dude you play really well. Must have played stronger than cat piss 20 years ago....very impressive after just a few months playing.

Hope you find some tournaments or action if you are looking.

 

[easy-e]

Excellent set Joliet I got the god ghost 7-1
tonight

634 fargo

Nice shooting. I know you keep saying you're a 634, but you're not. You don't actually have a legitimate rating until 200 robustness.

 

[Poolmanis]

Nice shooting. I know you keep saying you're a 634, but you're not. You don't actually have a legitimate rating until 200 robustness.

yes. close to 700 . My eye would say 680. But that is just offensive game. Maybe lack of safety skills keep fargo lower.
I don´t know. My safety play was very bad. Now it is way better due playing 3-cushion but I feel it is still so inconsistent part of my game even I practice it a lot more.