What's your shot??
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Here's another one that came up last night. You have ball in hand. Diamond bar box. Don't remember the score on this one, I think it was 2-3 going to 5 in favor of my opponent. He is an A player. I thought about using the one to break out the 2-9 ( 2 won't go even with throw). And putting the cb behind either the 7 or the 6. I just couldn't see myself pulling it off. I still feel it was the right shot, I just knew that for some reason I would botch it if I tried it, so, I knew enough not to try it. If you see failure coming, you will fail. So, I tried something else that worked by accident, but, ashamedly, I failed to get out on this relatively easy layout once the balls were opened up.How would you play this?
What have I missed?
I am not nearly at your playing level so take that ino account....lol
I'm gonna believe the 2 ball won't go....even though I don't see why not in your layout....besides a 3 way combo is a last ditch effort for me. I'm also assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that you do not want to play a safe shot....it would seem relatively easy for a player of your calibre to use that "wall of balls" by the side pocket for that purpose.....soooooo my attempt at a runout would begin with a power draw off the one to the long rail 2nd diamond or so ....in hopes of breaking the 2/9.....I think the chances of hitting one or both is good because of such a large target area....thats my paltry $.02......can't wait to hear how it really should be played.....lmao
The 2 doesn't pass into the top left corner or the bottom right corner? If not, I would feel comfortable trying something like this ...
Obviously he'll get a hit on the 2, but it's very unlikely that he will make it seeing as the side pocket is effectively blocked by the 4 and the 5. I'm anxious to see how you worked it, as usual.
Obviously he'll get a hit on the 2, but it's very unlikely that he will make it seeing as the side pocket is effectively blocked by the 4 and the 5. I'm anxious to see how you worked it, as usual.
I like 9BallMarksman's approach, though I'd hit the 2 harder to make it uch more difficult to hit a return a safety.
Another variation on the same idea would be to shoot the 1 Ball into the opposite side and roll the CB far down table, close to the opposite long rail and near the 2. Then do the stop shot going the other way and hope to get the 2 hidden near the pack around the side.
Another variation on the same idea would be to shoot the 1 Ball into the opposite side and roll the CB far down table, close to the opposite long rail and near the 2. Then do the stop shot going the other way and hope to get the 2 hidden near the pack around the side.
John, the only reason I don't favor hitting the 2 harder is in the event it ends up in the vicinity of the 4 or 5, thus creating a situation in which pocketing a ball becomes easier after the hit by way of a combination or carom. Also, if you accidentally make something, now you're the one stuck behind the 9 and you're kicking out of your own safety. Of course, this is just my humble opinion, but I prefer keeping the 2 as far away from those two ducks as I can. I'm giving Neil's opponent the benefit of the doubt (being he is an A player) when it comes to contacting the 2, so I look for the leave that offers less of a chance of a ball going into a pocket.
I may have to look at this from a shooting perspective to be sure it's feasible and to judge whether the speed I have on the 1b works. Basically you can aim to other run the 1 directly into the 9, or bank into the 2/9, or just leave the 1 near the head rail so that you can use ball in hand to break 'em open. No matter what he should be hooked depending on how nicely you tuck in the CB.
I suck at the Wei table so forgive me, but I'll try. I might try to use the natural angle of the rails to open up the 2 ball, I think at the very least you would have a clear shot at a safety even if you miss the balls. The rest of the rack looks pretty high percentage to run if you can get a good shot on the 2 ball. Trying to get the 1 ball to break up the 9/2 cluster and hiding it behind the 7 looks like a very small window since that cluster of balls are favoring the rail they are on, not cross table.
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Knock the one down around the pocket, but still on the end rail. That gives the breakout when you get bih. Make damn sure the speed on the cueball is good enough to stick on the 7.
Chuck
why not line that 2 ,as you have done, behind the 9 and snuggle the Cb
against the 9 making it very difficult for your opponent to even get a good hit on the 2.
Voila! You get ball in hand and shoot the 2/9 combo in for a win.
I like rivercity's choice, but i would probly try to shoot the 1ball into the 9 and break out the cluster while leaving the cue ball behind 7, if you hit it right you might be able to leave the 1 ball on the bottom rail around the 2ball and from there its easy right ? lol if only it were that simple but i think that this is the best option and if you dont get the hook off the 7ball the 1ball should be close to the rail wich leaves your opponent with a tough safe back.
PS Neil, i live in macomb county we should meet up sometime and play
PS Neil, i live in macomb county we should meet up sometime and play
That isnt a bad shot, but the percentage goes down. The less you can do and still set up the out, the better. If you break the cluster, and misjudge the hook, you could leave a shot (albeit a tough one) with a now open table.
Chuck
Is there a way to know where to aim to hit the one so you land behind the 7.
play the 1 and get shape on 2 to shoot it down table freezing cb to the 9 or thats what i would do
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I know I didn't set the CB up perfectly, but you get the idea. Then just stick him to the 9ball.
There is a much, much better way!
I like to hit it down and go for the break out with the one and get the CB safe. Hard shot though. the CB Z pattern looks good, I would be worried about leaving the CB on the rail, this would make the safe on the 2 really hard.
If I felt like shooting, I would pump in the 1 with an angle and try a break
If I felt like shooting, I would pump in the 1 with an angle and try a break
Id play two rails similar to 12squared's shot, only I would be trying to hit the middle diamond on the second rail to go directly into the 9. If you mishit this you could go above the 9 or in between the 9 and 2 and end up near the bottom rail. Then you have to play safe.
Especially on a barbox, I would be trying to run out from here and only duck if the position play to go directly into the 9 two rails is a failure.
Especially on a barbox, I would be trying to run out from here and only duck if the position play to go directly into the 9 two rails is a failure.