I don't believe you. Let's hear the names of the players you back, and to prove the veracity of your post, you need to post your full name instead of making vainglorious comments anonymously on a thread.
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I don't believe you. Let's hear the names of the players you back, and to prove the veracity of your post, you need to post your full name instead of making vainglorious comments anonymously on a thread.
And let's include the anonymous AzB-er posting about topics that he's trying to convey he has knowledge about, unless, of course, you want to post your pool portfolio on this thread to let us know what kind of nuggets of wisdom you have to share on this topic. I'm venturing to guess you've never been a backer or been backed, but you're coming on this thread like a know-it-all. Anonymously at that.
Player and backer would break even in this scenario...net gain was zero.
I've taken players into action for as long as a month...at 50/50.
But the accounting is done at the END of the trip..after expenses.
I like to bet by the game...sometimes your disadvantage with backing
is compensated by the fact that you can win much more money than
you are prepared to lose.
To back a player in one set for all the cash is a losing proposition, most
often.
Back now?
I only back English Pool players and, at the moment, I only back one. His name is Kristian Phillips. I back him on the English Pool Professional tour. I play on that tour myself.
In the past, to one degree or the other (again, all at English Pool), I have backed:
Rob McKenna*
Pat Holtz*
Carl Morris*
Phil Harrison*
Ben Davies
Simon Ward
Danny Davie
John Sullivan
Matt Cooke
Kristian Phillips
Steve Martin
Pat O'Kane
Those are off the top of my head. I am certain there are others
Some of those players have played American pool of course and they are starred.
My own name is my business but you could use the information above to find it out if you really really wanted to.
BTW, I was at the English Pro tour at the weekend just gone and who turned up at the awards dinner night?
Former member - Chris Melling.
Lovely to see him. Not see him in a few years. Famously, we played together in an English pool team tournament about 10 years ago. We lost in the semis 8-7 from 7-2 up.. Melling the cabbage missed a straight black for 8-2
Love him.. xx
Former member - Chris Melling.
Lovely to see him. Not see him in a few years. Famously, we played together in an English pool team tournament about 10 years ago. We lost in the semis 8-7 from 7-2 up.. Melling the cabbage missed a straight black for 8-2
Love him.. xx
Without your name, it is difficult to digest the validity of your claim. I do know Pat Holtz, however, and may reach out to him when the opportunity presents itself to ask about his experience being staked by an AzB-er named "voice of reason."
I might see him at the next tour event, which is in Glasgow.
Tell him voiceofreason is the guy that backed him and Rob McKenna on the Gangsters tour run by Keith Brewer around 2003-2004.
Edit to include:
Gangsters tour was a mini series run out of gangsters pool hall in swindon. At that time, Pat was living in Newport in Wales where he was a partner in a pool hall there.
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How much? Show me the money.
Anyway...
Coming back to the thread, I have to say - a lot of it is pipe dream and poppy cock.
No wonder no one can get backers over there are these odds and they all pile it in side bets instead
Coming back to the thread, I have to say - a lot of it is pipe dream and poppy cock.
No wonder no one can get backers over there are these odds and they all pile it in side bets instead
So you're talking about $300 to $350 that you staked?
Because of your anonymity, I am trying to verify the validity of your claims of being a stakehorse/backer, so I can understand the experience you claim to have on this topic.
Some of the people on this thread, I am familiar with their experience in being a stakehorse, so what they write has merit on this topic.
Because of your anonymity, I am trying to verify the validity of your claims of being a stakehorse/backer, so I can understand the experience you claim to have on this topic.
Some of the people on this thread, I am familiar with their experience in being a stakehorse, so what they write has merit on this topic.
Well. I am still lost, however, after just a little research to see if I have been involved in a discussion about backing players before, I found this post:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4487318&postcount=25
Does that help in any way?
As I have said, I prefer to back players into tournaments or tours and I often like to have several runners to protect the "bet".
As it stands, I am not long out of retirement from pool so only backing one player, as already mentioned.
Would you like me to find the thread I started around a year ago stating I was out of retirement and playing again and involved in pool again?
Or will you take my word on that?
Edit - to include a link to the thread where I came out of retirement, blah blah:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=336562&highlight=retirement
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I kind of think the blue-blooded British purist idea of paying entry fees of players in tournaments may be a different animal than backing players in action, American style. The money amounts, I am thinking, too, are vastly different. True, they are both a form of being a stakehorse, but putting up, say, hypothetically, $20,000 for a challenge match is a different scenario than posting $300 entry fees for a player.
You stake pool players like I bet the horses, a dollar-triple-box on any given race, instead of $5,000 to win on No. 5. :grin-square:
Does Doug Gordon know you?
Doug Gordon? Yes, though we have not met.
Well, you can't have read any of my posts then can you?
Would you like me to link to them or can you find them for yourself?
Therein, you will find the reasons for me personally not often getting involved in straight up challenge matches.
Search for the post I made where I referenced SVB in particular. And that is at 20% btw..
The Pro tour is nearer to $3,000 entry btw when you factor in expenses.
EDIT - to include link to post 86:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4727424&postcount=88
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Thanks for the reply and info. You just may be a gentleman and a scholar. I admire your style. Best regards to you always. :smile: