When you win$ do you pick up the time?

[ceebee]

I always pay for the time if I'm playing a "Local".
If I'm playing a "Visitor", I get it straight BEFORE the match unless I win more than a couple of hundred, and then
IF I GET IT ALL - I PAY IT ALL!

TY & GL

I like your attitude... when I match up with one of my friendlies (local player) & win at least enough to pay the time for both players, I pay for the time. The whole idea being is that I am the WINNER. If a stranger wanders in & wants to play, it's every man for himself. Since there is no "chit-chat before the match, there is no chit-chat afterwards".

I always conduct myself in a friendly & respectful manner. I always give a good rack & I never engage in verbal sharking, if my opponent starts in, I chastise them & quit. If we can't be respectful & courteous, I ain't interested in them or their money. Money is not a gage of good play.

 

[sjm]

If you win big, you should surely pay all the table time. After a small win, I will always offer to pay more than half of the table time.

 

[OldHasBeen]

Ceebee - I Sure As Hell Am Interested In..................

Ceebee - I Sure As Hell Am Interested In their $.
If it weren't for their $ - Why would I be playing them?
I figure they THINK they know how I play - I am trying to capitalize on the fact that they have bad info OR think they play better than they do.
If they come after me - They are Krazy & Ima gonna get all I can get!

TY & GL

 

[ManifestEcstacy]

i'm new to the whole pool scene (let along gambling on it) but if you can't quit when you're up... isn't that the point.. to just get some money? So, it would be considered smart to get up and then just quit... I could understand how the other person would want to win their money back.. but they shouldn't have lost it in the first place! i'm not trying to be rude.. i'm just really curious how this system works.. could someone please explain

I'm from IL...but
I will take explinations from the south, north, and NY (yes you are your own place)(and far north too, if they are different)

 

[lukeinva]

i'm new to the whole pool scene (let along gambling on it) but if you can't quit when you're up... isn't that the point.. to just get some money? So, it would be considered smart to get up and then just quit... I could understand how the other person would want to win their money back.. but they shouldn't have lost it in the first place! i'm not trying to be rude.. i'm just really curious how this system works.. could someone please explain

I'm from IL...but
I will take explinations from the south, north, and NY (yes you are your own place)(and far north too, if they are different)

Well if you quit winner then you suck!! Its like if you are playing poker you have a big pot and you win then all of the sudden you quit??? Thats not smart! One the people playing with you are liable to kick the shit out of you!! If not you would most likely not be allowed to play with them again!! Quiting winner is just wrong. Say you go into your local pool hall and you play a guy and win the first game say you're playing for $20 and then you quit! I will gaurantee you, you would NEVER get another game at that place ever!!! The only way you could get another game is if you moved! Most that play for money either set a limit to thier playing or if you have to leave at a certain time you talk about it first and play until that time or when your broke! But you dont quit before just cause you up a couple games.

 

[ManifestEcstacy]

so basically you are saying that usually there is a certain amount of games/sets that you decide... that makes more sense to me.. or a amount of time.. cause i would hate to go up two games and then lose like 4 and be down two! but i guess that is the way the cookie crumbles!! i'm not gonna gamble till i'm really good that is for sure..

 

[SplicedPoints]

I think it's alright to quit a winner after you've given the loser a reasonable number of attempts to at least get even. The word reasonable varies, could mean 1 extra game, or a few more hours.

 

[obrien714]

gamble to win, when you get the cash why not quit,

Ok, I 've been around the game all my life, as far as i can remember. I am not a big time gambler. I am a tourney player. I dont gamble due to crap one goes through if they win money and quit. I am not sayin quit the guy after 1 set, or 1 or 2 games, but if you play for like 3 hours the why should i dump til a guy gets even or quits. In my expirience i have had it happen and seen it to many times. The guy loosin busts and then will fire an airbarrel at you. Now whos wrong? If i quit him up 5 sets and, he has no chance, he lives to play another day respectfully. Instead he screws ya out of a bet, hes a jerk, you'll never play him again, bad mouth him to the whole pool community. Its bad all around, if its done politley and you tell the guy he can have another chance whenever he wants i think its cool. All the gamblers in the room will bite my head off, i know that, but hell, if i am am gamblin its not to be cheritable to a loosing opponent. I put up my cash to take a stab at winning, not be polite and let some guy bleed his way back so i can shake his hand and say "well we owe 35 apiece for time", boy that feels good. And that my friends is why i shy away from gambling. If ya puta buck in a slot machine and hit for 100 k are ya gonna dump it all back because you feel bad for the casino. I think not. So theres my 2 cents. I am ready to take all the posts rippin me a new on. To all of you .Have a good one.

Pat

 

[lukeinva]

Pat,
Yeah I agree with you too but I mean usually the way I play if I am playing the guy for 4hrs and I am up or down I will tell him that I will play him for another hour or 2 more sets or something like that. What I was talking about is playing a guy winning 1 or 2 games and then just quit thats bad.

 

[Matt_24]

Thought that applied anywhere (like Shorty said, in most cases, depending on amount won versus pool time) - it's proper pool etiquette. I've heard that people up north will also quit winner, which we don't do down here. Is this just a southern thing?

You don't quit winner unless you agree ahead of time (for example) "I have time for 3 sets regardless of who is up or down I have to roll after those sets." Now, if that is understood ahead of time, you're golden. Or, you can freeze up a certain amount of money and after that money is won give yourself the option ahead of time to quit....or re-negotiate. As long as all of these kinds of things are clarified. I was raised in Nashville TN and never saw anyone (that was a real gambler) just *quit* winner. It's not sporting.

 

[Egg McDogit]

There are all kinds of things you can do to prevent the guy from shooting air barrels....like posting before each set or capping the time or number of sets. My personal feeling is that you play the guy until one of you is bust or quits down.

I played a guy this weekend for a bill a set. He won the first 2 sets and quit ahead with NO advance warning. It wasn't even 7:30pm and right after he won the 2nd set, he unscrewed and said he had work the next day and he had to get home. It was the most gutless move I've ever seen in my entire life.

The last time we played, we jacked it up the last set, and as it turned out, he fired an air barrel and couldn't cover. I didn't make him post because he's a friend of a friend...stupid...and it was stupid of me to even play him a second time.

I wasn't about to take him outside (although my friend wanted to)...I have a decent job and I'm not about to get myself into a stupid situation over 2 bills - but you can be sure that EVERYONE in my area is going to know what he did and exactly how he matches up.

Ok, I 've been around the game all my life, as far as i can remember. I am not a big time gambler. I am a tourney player. I dont gamble due to crap one goes through if they win money and quit. I am not sayin quit the guy after 1 set, or 1 or 2 games, but if you play for like 3 hours the why should i dump til a guy gets even or quits. In my expirience i have had it

 

[1pRoscoe]

I played a guy this weekend for a bill a set. He won the first 2 sets and quit ahead with NO advance warning. It wasn't even 7:30pm and right after he won the 2nd set, he unscrewed and said he had work the next day and he had to get home. It was the most gutless move I've ever seen in my entire life.

Let me rephrase my earlier statement...

I will never do this.

I will be happy to give the person a chance to get their money back, but I'm not going to stay all night doing so.

 

[OldHasBeen]

If you can't quit anytime - DON'T PLAY.

i'm new to the whole pool scene (let along gambling on it) but if you can't quit when you're up... isn't that the point.. to just get some money? So, it would be considered smart to get up and then just quit... I could understand how the other person would want to win their money back.. but they shouldn't have lost it in the first place! i'm not trying to be rude.. i'm just really curious how this system works.. could someone please explain

I'm from IL...but
I will take explinations from the south, north, and NY (yes you are your own place)(and far north too, if they are different)

ManifestEcstacy - I always make it a point (especially in the last two years) to explain that either of us can quit ANYTIME. I also insist on paying & collecting all bets right after the game. NO BUTTONS. If playing for over $50 a game - It Is Posted.
Where I play - Terry (an owner) & I play quite often. We have known each other for over 40 years and have gambled quite a bit in our lives. We have discussed this.
WE POST AND PAY AFTER EACH GAME - KNOW WHY?
TO SHOW ANY SWEATERS & UP AND COMING YOUNG PLAYERS THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

Just the other day, I start playing a fellow some one pocket for past time ($10 a game). I had "The Nuts".
We had said nothing before playing because I was in such a hurry to get him mounted, I had forgot.
I lost the first game on purpose, reached & paid. He says, "That’s OK, we can just mark it up". I said, "Oh, No - I have lost a lot of money that I shouldn't have by keeping track of the games and I have learned my lesson". I don't trust myself to quit when I should - so - Lets just pay after each game.
I then also explained that I may get a phone call or may get tired - SO - me OR you can quit ANYTIME. He agreed and I could see him counting what he thought he was going to win.
After about 4 hours and two raises he quit $280 looser & he did stiff me $40 for the last game. Who Cares?
The very next day, a fellow who had seen us playing asked me how I did. I told him and he was surprised to hear I got paid. He said this fellow has stiffed many a player at least 4 other poolrooms he knows of and has had two fights over gambling losses.

IF - I had a poolroom - It would be a POSTED rule - That this is to be the way all gambling matches HAVE to be played. If someone came to me complaining about getting stiffed - I'd just laugh in their face.

TY & GL

 

[Sweet Marissa]

i'm new to the whole pool scene (let along gambling on it) but if you can't quit when you're up... isn't that the point.. to just get some money? So, it would be considered smart to get up and then just quit... I could understand how the other person would want to win their money back.. but they shouldn't have lost it in the first place! i'm not trying to be rude.. i'm just really curious how this system works.. could someone please explain

I'm from IL...but
I will take explinations from the south, north, and NY (yes you are your own place)(and far north too, if they are different)

If you quit someone winner, you can be sure everyone will hear about it, which means less action for you. (Unless you specify a certain time that you have to stop/leave, but this should be agreed upon before playing.)

 

[the kirkwood ki]

Clarification?

There should be a little clarification here. If you go to play someone like in a previous example, for 20 a game and quit after you win one or two, you are an asshole. If you say ahead of time the number of games,sets, stakes, whatever and if after that time you are the winner then you are an idiot if you don't quit. Who in their right mind is going to keep playing just to make the other guy feel better, get even, or win. That's just stupid. I have seen this many times where the only way the other guy is EVER going to win is if you shoot for him. It's not your fault if someone sucks.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

There should be a little clarification here. If you go to play someone like in a previous example, for 20 a game and quit after you win one or two, you are an asshole. If you say ahead of time the number of games,sets, stakes, whatever and if after that time you are the winner then you are an idiot if you don't quit. Who in their right mind is going to keep playing just to make the other guy feel better, get even, or win. That's just stupid. I have seen this many times where the only way the other guy is EVER going to win is if you shoot for him. It's not your fault if someone sucks.

Actually, that's not quite the rule. The fact is, you should ALWAYS offer someone a chance to win their money back with the same game they lost with. They're not a casino and if you quit up, it'll certainly kill your action. Now, that isn't to say that you can't "fail to negotiate". If they wish to change the game or the bet, you have every right to quit. Even in a time-sensitive situation, you should at least let the guy know when you are certainly going to be there again. If it's unavoidable, pay the time and buy the fella a drink. Anyone who gambles frequently has had to put in some publicity time in order to keep one's reputation intact.

 

[The Kiss]

I've quit ahead just to piss a guy off....Like he was sharking me, saying things while I am shooting ect ect....So instead of stooping to his level i got ahead and said see ya....My plan worked the guy went completely ape shit and I walked out

On general principal I won't quit ahead...But i will quit down real fast some guy thinks he is going to string me along or won't renogotiate weight, seeing that I am fighting a losing battle...I love it when a better player will dog a few games to make it look good..Like I can't notice whats going on...

 

[the kirkwood ki]

Ok. You offer the guy a chance to win his/her money back at the same game and you win again. Now what? Are you supposed to keep playing until you lose or the guy breaks even? What's the point in even playing? If you win, you win. Most people I know who gamble are trying to make money not give it away.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

I've quit ahead just to piss a guy off....Like he was sharking me, saying things while I am shooting ect ect....So instead of stooping to his level i got ahead and said see ya....My plan worked the guy went completely ape shit and I walked out

On general principal I won't quit ahead...But i will quit down real fast some guy thinks he is going to string me along or won't renogotiate weight, seeing that I am fighting a losing battle...I love it when a better player will dog a few games to make it look good..Like I can't notice whats going on...

Well, that's a different story. Offering a chance to win one's money back is still a courtesy, not a right. Once, I was playing a guy and caught him moving two beads. I corrected him, knew he did it intentionally and called last set. I was already up so he had no chance to make money. Sometimes it needs to be used but your reason should never be about money.

 

[Sweet Marissa]

There's always going to be grey areas in any situation, i.e. if your opponent is down x amount and won't continue unless he gets more weight than you're willing to give, if they're trying to shark you and they're obnoxious about it (if it's subtle I can usually ignore it), et cetera.