Where do pool players prefer playing ??

If I could have my cake and eat it too, it would be a place which said Pool Hall on the sign. It would have 8 and 9' well cared for tables. It would have a pay to enter the pool hall fee. That is, not table time, but some fee to play pool. The question is, how do you hang out with out paying the fee. The guy here does it well, but has only 5 tables.

If it were an ideal situation, they would have a nice bar area with good food. Frankly though, no food ought to be in the pool area and they ought to serve hot or cold wet towels to encourage wiped hands and clean equipment.

It would be nice if there was some way to encourage people to make games, friendships, etc too. I have been too many places where the atmosphere was dry and getting a game was hard at best.
 
Here:
http://www.thecueball.com/

No booze, no eats, no juke...just oldies playing on the radio at low volume.

Low prices to play on classic Brunswicks...or 3 cushion & snooker if you prefer. Most afternoons a low stakes golf game going on the snooker table.


I was going to say anywhere the jukebox is out of order, but yours works too. Coffee would be nice though...
 
Screw all the bars and ph's with alcohol and music. I'll gladly stay home and not have to put up with all that crap. Been there. Done all of it and I don't need it.

Pool, in and of itself, is too beautiful to have to put up crap music and drunks giving me shit.
 
Most of the places I play league are in bars with 7' Valley's. A couple of them have weekly tourneys that I also play in. Having said that, I prefer to go to a pool hall where I can jump on a 9'er and run some drills by myself 2-3 times a week. Maybe get a game going with some of the local talent too...
 
Here:
http://www.thecueball.com/

No booze, no eats, no juke...just oldies playing on the radio at low volume.

Low prices to play on classic Brunswicks...or 3 cushion & snooker if you prefer. Most afternoons a low stakes golf game going on the snooker table.

$3 an hour to play on Centennials and Anniversaries! Damn, lovin' that. That's all I need in a room.
 
Pool rooms

I prefer a room that has 10-20 7 footers, and at least 2 9 footers, that serves food and liquor. This is the environment I seem to enjoy the most.
 
Don t want to be misunderstood-
i also enjoy nice Billiard Halls or sport-bars. But the problem here is, that it is hard to find new young players. That s why i like *club rooms* where ppl can play as long as they want (for a monthly amount of money).

And in pool-halls sometimes it s a bit hard bc some guys think they have to act there like in a disco or concert :p I for myself have very good nerves and it doesn t matter to me, but many ppl have a real problem with things like that around them while playing billiards.
So at least it s hard for a billiard hall owner to satisfy all kinds of pool-player-if possible.........

lg
Ingo
 
Great
Now, let's try to figure out a way to signal to owners, that there is a critical mass of customers like you to sustain this business model. Holding tournaments, weekly leagues, clinics?

300%, literally. Have done it, continue to do it, always will. If you add drinks & something more than pub-food into it, you can double that.
 
If I had my choice, I'd rather shoot in a quiet sports bar that isn't too busy with just a couple of friends. Better yet, I'd rather have the sports bar setup at home with a couple of friends over.

Pool halls get annoying. People bother you, you have to talk to people you really don't like, and sometimes... they just seem like seedy dumps. I don't play pool to be some great gambler (though I've done my share). I play because I love it. Nothing better than good friends, something decent on the tube, maybe a little music, drinks and food, and rack after rack.

Heaven

Greg
 
I prefer the former, but compared to the latter its not a sustainable business model in today's economy.

Moving on to the next question, how much more of a premium would you pay to patronize an old style pool hall, versus the sports bar with 7' tables?

for me as much as i had to. i'm a rare breed these days though. the pool hall i go to just spent 20k (ish) on 2 brand new gold crown 5's. they raised the rates for those tables. i'm pretty sure they get less business now because of the rate change though.
 
Now, let's try to figure out a way to signal to owners, that there is a critical mass of customers like you to sustain this business model. Holding tournaments, weekly leagues, clinics?

The only place I've seen pool halls like the ones I, and my friends, enjoy is in bigger cities where there's a large enough population to cater to unfortunately. In my experience the more a pool hall caters to the sport only, the more the annoying customers that come in. You know them, we all do; "hey buddy I'll play ya for $20 a rack. No? Well I bet I could show your girlfriend there how to play..." Keeping those Jack Wagons away brings in new customers.

Action should be left to tournaments - when the stakes are higher on the tour or in special matches like TAR's than they are in Earl's back room it drives the game forward. Otherwise you end up with some nitwit pestering you.

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I've alluded to it a few times, but here's a sad example. At the sports bar I used to play in (converted from an old pool hall, they kept 5 9's) we were playing for a few hours. Across the room from us is a gentlemen and his lady friend. Two young hustlers come up and start off with the standard tease, he rejected, they used the girlfriend as bait, and had him strung. While one of the boys kept him busy the other kept inching closer and closer to his girlfriend. She played along, feigning interest until he became a little more insistent. Unfortunately her gentleman friend was still caught up in his "action" (I use the term loosely) and didn't see what was going on. It wasn't until the more annoying of the two hustlers dragged his chair next to the girl and she immediately stood up and walked around the table (with him following) that I went over.

Now it's true this is an example of poor management by the staff, to not see these two we bothering the customers. It's true I, as a customer, didn't really have the "right" to step in, but someone had to. Those two hustlers didn't seem to want to play me and left. I apologized to both the well-heeled patrons but, to my knowledge, they never returned even though both were showing a genuine interest in the game.

As a side note, one of the nails in the coffin of my playing there came when I was paying my bill. I was accosted by the owner who complained about me chasing the two kids out. I asked if they had paid for their time on the the couple's tables and the answer was no. I asked if they paid for their drinks, and the answer was no, the couple had out of respect. I was told the bar felt "cheated" out of their "big action". So really the owner had been watching this kid touch another patron (gentleman's lady friend) who clearly did not want the attention and thought nothing of it because he might make an extra $20?

The couple we met that night would have brought in more of their friends, and made the bar more money. How do I know? I see them every few nights at my new hall, and the place is doing well. It's not the only example I have either, it's just the most recent. They did let me know the only reason they even play anymore is that I went over and put an end to it and it wasn't a hustle.

What's my point in all this: be careful you don't cater too much to players only because you end up with more problems than it's worth. Find a balance. If I want to come in, sit down, and drink some scotch and play with a friend I don't need or want your attention or your money. Cater to hustlers and your best friends and you drive away more people than you bring in.

The 60's are over. Pool needs to grow up again, and so do a lot of the people who play it.
 
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