It looks like a 10' Gold Crown to me. How can you tell if it was converted from a snooker table?
Where is the SVB vs Earl Stream?
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No such thing as a 10' Brunswick pool table as we know it today. I could be wrong on this, but that's what I was told.
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Justin
I hope not! Don't mind alternating break, but not the push out after break rule.
As I said in another post about that rule, why are you getting punished for doing a good thing (make a ball on the break). That rule would be like people playing behind the line ball in hand and you need to kick at another ball in the kitchen. You are getting punished for the other guy scratching. Or APA 8 ball where you have to pick whichever group dropped, even if the other group is easier to play, you are getting punished for making a ball.
OK, how about you gotta hit the 1-Ball first and call the ball you intend to make? And all balls pocketed get spotted if you don't make the called ball. Why should the break be a special shot that doesn't follow the rest of the rules of the game?
There are other special shots. The Push Out is one. First shot in 8 ball with the table open where you can hit a solid to make a stripe (or vice versa). Probably others I can't think of. Not all shots follow the same rules.
I was kinda kidding, but what other shots in 10-Ball allow you to luck in balls without making the called ball in the proper pocket and allow you to keep on shooting?
That depends on the rules LOL
Many people play 9 ball rules but with 10 balls. Still makes it a harder game but less confusion.
The break is there to setup the game, like a serve in tennis (which also has it's special rules (no hitting the net, has to stay in the box) ).
I'm sure no-one wants to see a safety break in 10 or 9 ball as the first shot, and the push out after the break rule is very close to that.
Inside Pool with NYCGrind streamed last night's match, and last week's scotch doubles (Earl/Appleton v Archer/Hatch). It would probably be archived later on Inside Pool's website or Youtube channel.
I do.:wink:
And it has nothing to do with the fact that I have the world's worst break. At my speed, the break is probably a liability I'd just as soon pass on.
B&R at the pro level has become very boring to me. I don't really like alternate break, but it does even things out a bit. Changing the rules to a sort of safety break brings a lot of complexity to the beginning of the rack, just like it does in straight pool. I'm so tired of hearing how no one can fade Shane's break, or Dennis', or Bustie's break. There is much more to the game than that, at least to me.
Of course, this applies only to pro play. How folks play in league or match up in action games is totally up to them. Seems all the pros expect people to pay them to play. They shouldn't expect to get paid just sitting in the chair, which is exactly what happens all too often.
I have no idea how fast your connection speed needs to be in order to get a stream to the host, but almost all broadband connections these days have plenty of bandwidth to handle an HD stream.
Bandwidth consumption, OTOH, is a whole other ball o' wax, but that should have nothing to do with the quality of the stream going out, only how much you get charged. This, I believe, is based on bitrate, length of broadcast, and number of viewers. I know it's a mathematical formula similar to power usage, and not a connection speed issue per se. This is why TAR had to bump up their price a few bucks for the full HD stream, because the bitrate is higher. Justin C. explained this clearly a few weeks ago.
Anyway, that was not my gripe. What was tedious for me was... the entire production.
- Cameras constantly shifting poorly thought out viewpoints at the oddest times, each camera with it's own color profile. Calibrate you equipment ahead of time, and stick to one camera angle for at least five seconds.
- Terrible sound balance, with half the match spent talking with the chat about the volume rather than actually commentating on the play. Sometimes the background was so loud we could hear the TV in the background, or Alvin telling Alison not to show the players asses. Then they make it too loud, then too soft. It's called a "sound check", and it's done hours ahead of time. There are about 100,000 aspiring musicians in the NY metropolitan area that know more about this than IP does. Surely, one of them plays pool and would do it for beer. They're used to that.
- Very unprofessional commentating, with established pros sitting in and mocking Earl. In what other sport do you hear the commentators doing this? In the meantime, Earl was acting fine (for Earl, anyway). Cue sports are the classiest sports of all, and the pros behind the scenes ought to show a little class themselves.
- Bickering with each other about how they think a shot should be played, rather than explaining it as it was actually shot. I know Hunter is a very knowledgeable guy who demands the respect of a lot of pros for his knowledge, but he seemed to be in a battle of one-upmanship with Mika that really took away from the enjoyment of the game.
- Then there is Alvin. I don't know him at all, only saw him on occasion at SBE (always with a sour puss on BTW), but he seems to be every pro's friend. Good. Have a beer with him after and thank him for his hard work, but PLEASE keep him away from the microphones. I cannot believe some of the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. I mean, really, talking about Santa Claus beating some kid up with a baseball bat???? Get a grip, Alvin.
- The chat. Drop it in the dumper, or let Alvin answer questions via keyboard. It is a huge distraction, even for the best commentators. Even Mary K. fell prey to it during the 10-Ball finals at SBE. If the players are at the table, talk should revolve around the play, not how the commentator got into pool in the first place.
I could go on, there is really no end to the flaws I am seeing in the IP streams. Almost all of them could be resolved with out spending a penny, just some self-control, diligence and planning ahead of time. Accu-Stats has this thing DOWN, so if IP really thinks they are an up-and-comer in the field, they better pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Free is fun, but pro pool is a BIDNESS! Act accordingly.
Of course, then there is Alison Fisher from NYC Grind. What a class act she is! If it weren't for her we would have simply turned the sound off. I met her briefly at SBE and was so impressed with her I volunteered my services for the next Turning Stone event. Her commentary is already first rate, just think what a few years in the booth with somebody like Billy I. would do for her skills.
Oh... and I am officially in love with her, so she better get herself hitched real quick or some fat old guy is gonna make a fool of himself.
JK Alison, I'm already in love, but I do wish you well in all that you do.
It's OK that we have different standards.:smile:
Well for our streams it doesn't happen all the time. Things do happen but since the USBTC left that hell hole disguised as a casino called the Sands and its 1960's infrastructure we have had no issues at all from Reno.
In the last three years in Vegas we had an outage at the Riv when the wind turned a satellite dish used for access and one time in the studio when the cable company had an issue and was able to fix it remotely during a match.
Since I'm the guy who streams the most from Vegas and the only one who streams from Reno I just wanted to put some facts out there.
Streaming from pool rooms is a brutal business. I dont miss it at all and will never go back to it if I can help it.
If you believe the guy who pushes is at a disadvantage (which is conventional wisdom), then making a ball on the break still gives you an advantage, because you have the option of requiring the opponent to push.
Once the stream stayed on I thought it was OK. The match was incredible so I'm glad I got to see it. Also I did notice this...
I don't know much about Lombardo. I've seen him play once and I'm sure he has tremendous knowledge of the game, but he was terrible as a commentator. He came across as condescending, passive-aggressive and annoying. He seemed like he wanted to prove he was smarter than Mika. Is there some history between these two or something? Overall great match and thanks to Inside Pool for streaming it.
I don't know much about Lombardo. I've seen him play once and I'm sure he has tremendous knowledge of the game, but he was terrible as a commentator. He came across as condescending, passive-aggressive and annoying. He seemed like he wanted to prove he was smarter than Mika. Is there some history between these two or something? Overall great match and thanks to Inside Pool for streaming it.
Two Shot Push Out requires NO mandatory push out after the break
I hope you don't think there's a mandatory "Push Out After the Break" playing "Two Shot Rollout"......this isn't the case at all.
The Mandatory Push out was just an experimental thing on Accu Stats and not a "real rule" in any pocket billiard game. FYI 'The Game is the Teacher'
I hope you don't think there's a mandatory "Push Out After the Break" playing "Two Shot Rollout"......this isn't the case at all.
The Mandatory Push out was just an experimental thing on Accu Stats and not a "real rule" in any pocket billiard game. FYI 'The Game is the Teacher'
I was going to post earlier that I thought you were referring to "two shot rollout" and not a mandatory "push out" after the break.
Thank you. I'd like to see it.
Ah, OK, the push out you are talking about is a much better rule, pre-texas express 9 ball. Just don't bring back the rule where everything made on a foul is spotted and go behind the line instead of ball in hand. That goes back to rewarding a bad shot by giving the incoming player a weaker position.
Sure would help crappy players like me who can't kick too well LOL.