where's mark tad???

JAM said:
I empathize with the guy because I've seen players in the past make a first-time post and sometimes end up getting sucker-punched in print on the pool-related forums FOR NO REASON other than they are who they are. When it gets personal and/or it isn't a pleasant experience anymore, it's time to take a hiatus, which is most likely what Mark Tadd did. JMHO, FWIW! ;)

Thanks, JAM, for a well-judged and courteous reply. I promise to keep an open mind.
 
Right at the top, I'm not suggesting Mark is anything but a great player and a stand-up guy but I've said this before and it needs repeating, "Just because someone is a good pool player, baseball player, football player etc., it doesn't mean that said person is a nice person. Look at Ty Cobb, one of the best baseball players of all time and it is said that he was a very mean person. Sometimes I get the feeling that people get hung up too much on hero warship and want to close their eyes to any faults a great player may have. I think this is to the detriment of not only those that have to suffer being around a jerk but to the jerk as well. People will adapt to their environment and other people are a part of that environment. If poor behavior is exhibited and that person is conseqated appropriately, there is a good chance that behavior will change for the better. One of the previous posters hit the nail right on the head about what Mark's posting behavior was and it was not exemplary so just because he was a great player does not mean he was a great poster. Maybe the next time he decides to post in a forum, he'll use a little more tact and realize that there are consequences for inappropriate posts. Whew! That was a mouthful!!
 
Rude Dog said:
HA, that's what you should do Jimmy, quit pool and play cards! :D If I ever bet my V-cash on you again I hope Mike kicks me outta the forum. How could you lose in that soft field? Jeez, get over here to Kingman where the "REAL" players play and take a lesson. ;)

Hi there,

I talked to a buddy from Springfield Ohio (my hometown) that said that Mark was in Columbus about 2 weeks ago or so and was drumming up action. He gave Dee Adkins the 7 last 3 for 10,000 and won (easily I heard). So obviously he is playing again. He also offered Jason Miller the 7 last 4 or last 3 (I heard four but that sounded excessive) and Jason wouldn't play. And believe me Jason can play. Then he said he would give anyone in Ohio the 7 and someone called Cory and Tadd agreed but it didn't happen.

Granted this is all here say but it was a good friend of mine who told me. So if this is all true it is at least something to talk about.

Kevin
 
Why start a paragraph like that with

"I'm not suggesting Mark is anything but a great player and a stand-up guy"

and then go on to say such things as

Just because someone is a good pool player, baseball player, football player etc., it doesn't mean that said person is a nice person

and

I think this is to the detriment of not only those that have to suffer being around a jerk but to the jerk as well.

followed by

If poor behavior is exhibited and that person is conseqated appropriately, there is a good chance that behavior will change for the better. One of the previous posters hit the nail right on the head about what Mark's posting behavior was and it was not exemplary so just because he was a great player does not mean he was a great poster. Maybe the next time he decides to post in a forum, he'll use a little more tact and realize that there are consequences for inappropriate posts.

which basically makes your opening line a bunch of bullshit since you are aiming the whole post at Mark and it is not subtle that you compare him to Ty Cobb, a person you claim was a "mean person".

Mark may not have answered everyones questions and he may have messed around with the board abit with his game of "Am I the REAL Mark Tad?" thread but he was never mean or a jerk to anyone on this board. Your post you just wrote is WAY more of a personal attack on Mark then he ever unleashed on anyone else.

My question to all you people who dont like the way Mark conducted himself on this board is... Why do you expect he should cater to the every whim of the other members on this board, answer every question posed to him, and conduct himself to a HIGHER standard then the average member of this board just because he is a well known top player? There is a dual standard on this board but it is not giving the pro's more slack, if anything it is the reverse, they are judged on every little thing they do on this board to a higher standard then the normal non-professional members and any little thing that may not be 100% respectful causes the whole board to get all defensive and judgemental whereas another person such as Drivermaker, Rudedog, Rickw, Me, or any other lesser known personality basically can say what is truely on their mind and not cause the whole board to get up in arms. It is not surprising that pro's never come to these boards being that they cannot simply be themselves like everyone else is able to, we expect more from them and put their actions and participation under the microscope.
 
crow said:
Hi there,

I talked to a buddy from Springfield Ohio (my hometown) that said that Mark was in Columbus about 2 weeks ago or so and was drumming up action. He gave Dee Adkins the 7 last 3 for 10,000 and won (easily I heard). So obviously he is playing again. He also offered Jason Miller the 7 last 4 or last 3 (I heard four but that sounded excessive) and Jason wouldn't play. And believe me Jason can play. Then he said he would give anyone in Ohio the 7 and someone called Cory and Tadd agreed but it didn't happen.

Granted this is all here say but it was a good friend of mine who told me. So if this is all true it is at least something to talk about.

Kevin

If any of this is true, all I can say is, he had me fooled. However, I did talk to him more recently than that and it didn't sound like he was playing any pool at all.
 
Jimmy M. said:
If any of this is true, all I can say is, he had me fooled. However, I did talk to him more recently than that and it didn't sound like he was playing any pool at all.


I heard he was in the south within the last couple of weeks... from a Very reliable source who told me to keep a look out... he's been here before on the very trip he mentioned on onepocket.org ... this guy was a stone cold champion no doubt in the early 90's when i was just getting into pool all the stories about him offering johnny the 8 and all that i remember from then so "shortstop" that's a laugher i'm pretty sure i remember about him playing some of the phillipinos around that time and them not liking it much... just FYI
 
Jimmy M. said:
I did talk to him more recently than that and it didn't sound like he was playing any pool at all.

Jimmy, he was in Sixshooters a couple months ago. Not gambling, just shooting around. Said he was thinking about playing seriously again but no gambling. Anyhow, he was playing pool, runout pool too...


I just met him the one time and seemed like a nice fun guy. Some of you should cut him a break. He seemed like a good guy to me...
 
Suckers that punch.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
I empathize with the guy because I've seen players in the past make a first-time post and sometimes end up getting sucker-punched in print on the pool-related forums FOR NO REASON other than they are who they are. When it gets personal and/or it isn't a pleasant experience anymore, it's time to take a hiatus, which is most likely what Mark Tadd did. JMHO, FWIW!


I am fairly new here but in my short time reading prior to posting this site has some very good attributes i.e. pro post (as the topic here suggest) and some very bad ones also (local cliques and their intolerance of others POV ) This guy Mark must have been a really powerful personality to elicit the strong feelings that are evident in this post! I am sorry I missed him, for so many to obviously also miss him regardless of their public view and statements to the contrary!!! they have made hundreds of replies and thousands of reads in a post devoted totally to where he is now?

:D Hell! he can't be hiding too much with the number of people here posting that they have talked to him recently and that claim to know all of his personal info and future ambitions up to and including his religious aspirations!!!! :confused:
 
sjm said:
JAM, it is rare that I disagree with you, but this time it seems to me you don't remember his early posts.

Mark was welcomed by most, but he made a major error when he made it clear he intended to share his knowledge and expereinces with the forum and, with only minimal exception, doing an about face, never opening up, and making what surely stand out as some of the worst posts ever seen on this forum, posts having no direction and, ultimately, almost no meaningful content. He also insulted the intelligence of forum members with his "Am I the Real Mark Tadd?" thread.


SJM, I applaud you for telling it just like it was. I have to wonder how other posters that continue the ongoing hero worship along with continual defense of his forum actions, mainly inactions, can say what they say when all of it is sitting in the member list archives word for word. If you follow it in chronological order thread by thread, it's all there layed out in print. And Mark started ALL of the threads about himself.

Here are a couple examples of not answering questions, WHICH HE POSED TO BEGIN WITH IN THREADS THAT HE STARTED.

Thread #1: WHY I GAMBLE POKER NOT POOL
That ended up turning into 4 pages of a poker forum and arguing back and forth about whether there was skill in poker as well as woofing challenges to each other showing whose dick was bigger at the card table. On the very last page of that thread of nothingness which resembled the title, Smorgassbored posted this:
"I thought that Mark was going to post his long awaited explanation on why poker and not pool. (I wait with bait on my breath)

Thread #2: THE LAST TIME I GAMBLES POOL WAS
Here again he started a thread about the same issue and baited everyone with a story about his last match and then said the following at the end of his first post: "After I won I announced to all that I will never gamble at pool again. I will give reasons later."
Guess what??? Two more pages of horseshit and going completely off track.

Thread #3: I'M IN PHOENIX AZ
This was his last thread and post. And if you can say anyone was responsible for chasing him off, I guess you can place the blame on me. Did I call him names?? NO!! Did I humiliate him?? NO!! Did I say that he couldn't play?? NO!! Was I respectful?? YES Was I trying to keep him on track??
YES!!

After all of those weeks of threads and posts, it was almost starting to get laughable. JimmyM and others posed some things to him and I did as well. The only way you're going to see how it played out is to go on some of the threads that I mentioned in this post and see it for yourself. I really don't know what you're remembering or interpreting when it's all right there.
At a couple of times in the Phoenix thread, I was trying to lead him into just staying focused and keep things on topic. At that point he said: "OK Drive I will respond to this and other questions that were asked on this thread tomorrow, have to go now."

Tomorrow never comes and it didn't with him either. Maybe he has ADD, maybe he's a little eccentric, or maybe he's just out of whack and focus in life, but as many have said a lot of this was brought on by himself, especially since he started ALL of the threads and lured everyone in. None of this means that he can't play. He also had a bad time on CCB, maybe worse than AZ, so all in all it seems like forums aren't really his element. Just being at the pool table or card table is and what he does best. I guess that's where he should be, as long as he's happy and it's profitable enough to get you through life.
 
drivermaker said:
Maybe he has ADD, maybe he's a little eccentric, or maybe he's just out of whack and focus in life

D'maker,
Maybe he's really Sid Finch. I think maybe he used to play baseball.
 
Williebetmore said:
D'maker,
Maybe he's really Sid Finch. I think maybe he used to play baseball.


Could be...then again with all of these sightings that are going around the country, maybe he's Elvis. Let's not start any threads to see if that's the case though. :eek:
 
MrLucky said:
...This guy Mark must have been a really powerful personality to elicit the strong feelings that are evident in this post! I am sorry I missed him, for so many to obviously also miss him regardless of their public view and statements to the contrary!!! ... :confused:

MrLucky you are indeed lucky, because you should be able to look at the archives and read the actual threads. Then you will have a better understanding of the current discussion regarding this fellow. Just a suggestion ...

Best Regards,

Dave, who doesn't miss anyone on the Internet
 
drivermaker said:
Tomorrow never comes and it didn't with him either. Maybe he has ADD, maybe he's a little eccentric, or maybe he's just out of whack and focus in life, but as many have said a lot of this was brought on by himself, especially since he started ALL of the threads and lured everyone in. None of this means that he can't play. He also had a bad time on CCB, maybe worse than AZ, so all in all it seems like forums aren't really his element. Just being at the pool table or card table is and what he does best. I guess that's where he should be, as long as he's happy and it's profitable enough to get you through life.

I tend to agree with drivermaker. The posts were very uneventful and nonsensical at times. He seemed to enjoy keeping everybody at bay with their questions and leaving people in suspense as to what he may or may not say. From a road player's perspective I find it hilarious, yet typical and pure genius. Nobody can say he wasn't in control. LOL.
 
Blackjack,
I was thinking the same thing...what a great hustle he put on...LOL...I never had to doubt his skill, I saw it up close and personal
 
Drivemaker, you saved me the trouble but I was wondering if somebody would go through a few threads and give examples. Nicely worder as usual :-)

Even though I couldn't be arsed to shift through all the "horseshit" as you say I was sure I didn't remember it wrong. When he first came on here I asked who he was and he sounded like a great player. But after reading some of his threads I soon got bored with the lack of meat and contributions. I also though that he had taken over the forum like FL used to do hence my FL v MT thread. I hope this wasn't what contributed into him leaving, I was just teasing as I wondered what it would have been like if they where both here at the same time - I think the server would have melted!

Anyway, like you said I'm sure he's a great player and maybe even a top bloke. The problem with print though as you can't deliver it with "tone" and it often doesn't come across the way it should. This may excuse some of his comments but I think he could have done a lot worse than atleast finish the threads he started.
 
Because I felt like it at the time. If you have a problem, see my customer service rep!




Celtic said:
Why start a paragraph like that with



and then go on to say such things as



and



followed by



which basically makes your opening line a bunch of bullshit since you are aiming the whole post at Mark and it is not subtle that you compare him to Ty Cobb, a person you claim was a "mean person".

Mark may not have answered everyones questions and he may have messed around with the board abit with his game of "Am I the REAL Mark Tad?" thread but he was never mean or a jerk to anyone on this board. Your post you just wrote is WAY more of a personal attack on Mark then he ever unleashed on anyone else.

My question to all you people who dont like the way Mark conducted himself on this board is... Why do you expect he should cater to the every whim of the other members on this board, answer every question posed to him, and conduct himself to a HIGHER standard then the average member of this board just because he is a well known top player? There is a dual standard on this board but it is not giving the pro's more slack, if anything it is the reverse, they are judged on every little thing they do on this board to a higher standard then the normal non-professional members and any little thing that may not be 100% respectful causes the whole board to get all defensive and judgemental whereas another person such as Drivermaker, Rudedog, Rickw, Me, or any other lesser known personality basically can say what is truely on their mind and not cause the whole board to get up in arms. It is not surprising that pro's never come to these boards being that they cannot simply be themselves like everyone else is able to, we expect more from them and put their actions and participation under the microscope.
 
Celtic,

I was just trying to say that in this big tough world, if you make a mistake, you pay for it. I didn't make the rules. And, just because someone has some talent, that should not put them out of harms way. Mark evidently wrote some posts that people didn't like just like you obviously didn't like my first post. You're telling me you didn't like it and that your prerogative. I can handle it. I'm sure not going to bust a gasket and leave this board just because you didn't like it.
 
Blackjack said:
I tend to agree with drivermaker. The posts were very uneventful and nonsensical at times. He seemed to enjoy keeping everybody at bay with their questions and leaving people in suspense as to what he may or may not say. From a road player's perspective I find it hilarious, yet typical and pure genius. Nobody can say he wasn't in control. LOL.

He wasn't in control ...... of his senses. All the guy did was waste people's time and create false expectations. It isn't hilarious and and would only seem like genius to a road player who thought that finding new ways to waste people's time evidences intellect.
 
sjm said:
He wasn't in control ...... of his senses. All the guy did was waste people's time and create false expectations. It isn't hilarious and and would only seem like genius to a road player who thought that finding new ways to waste people's time evidences intellect.

SJM,
you know I'm just having fun...
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This is what I really thought about all the MT threads!
 
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