The probability that an 800 wins a race to 5 (as in the Mosconi Cup) against a 750 is about 70%. It goes up to nearly 80% in a race to 11.
Which country has the best pool players?
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A situation is robocop.
Number 6 on fargo at 828 but in AZB money list is not placing. How long is the 828 valid?
Not really if you really want to be realistic…. When has Sky and the Ones named after Shane won any major tournaments …. Ummmmm …. The only one is T-Rex at Derby city … Mike Dechaine and Shane are the only ones that have a chance to win a Matchroom tournament with the top players in the world …. Just being honest …
Skyler Woodward won the 2019 Derby City 9ball and the 2019 Derby City Master of the Table. Those are two of the more difficult things to win in our sport. He is also a two time Mosconi Cup MVP and is a tough out every December.
Saying Sky can't win a Matchroom event when he just won bronze at the UK Open seems odd to me.
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That is true but I bet the % distribution would match the numbers in Fargo. So if say 20% of the 750+ players were from the Phillipines we know listed in Fargo, if we add in all the unknown players that are not in Fargo it would still be about 20%. Or it may be that the country is just too much in the back-woods and they have a significant amount of players not in Fargo compared to the first world ones like Germany. My gut feeling is that the smaller the player base is in a country that has players the higher chance most will be in Fargo if they are in the pro skill level of 750+
The number of things you get wrong is as large as the number of things.
To be on the money list you need to be playing in all the tournaments that get reported, and amount of money won in tournaments does not equal skill of the player. If a 750 Fargo plays in 10 tournaments, he can do well enough to make more than an 800 Fargo that plays in 3, but you won't see the 50,000 gambling wins or 10,000 in appearance fees.
Fargo goes by actual matches that happened, so his 828 means he has a winning record playing people 820 and under, even if only by a few % margin, not a guess, data. If it's wrong for this moment in time, it will adjust as he plays more, which can happen if a player does not play much and the others he is linked to go up. At that level, it's not likely for the players to move more than 10 points over a few months of tournaments.
Matching up in exhibitions versus traveling and competing in strong fields has the same impact on Fargo.
Statistically an exhibition in your home town versus traveling to a major tournament should have different effects on Fargo.
You are the sum of your play.
Golf does have a slope rating. Maybe something like that for the elite players (770+)?
Deterioration of skill due to lack of competition intensity is real.
Immediately after COVID many of the former top players struggled to adjust.
Fargo should incentivize active play by having a deterioration factor that is public.
860 fargo but 1 year old.
In terms of a statistical list of numbers 860 is high but its 860 from years ago. Tournament play standards are adjusting, will the old fargo hold true on the new equipment and new competition?
Don't they have a deterioration factor? I thought it drops over some period of time if you're inactive.
Not for Robocop.
Jenn Barretta is #1 woman USA based on Fargo. Her money list rank is also low, recent tournament participation is low. Statistically its a tale of two people.
I saw her in competition at US open. She is a leader but she doesnt promote as heavily as Jeanette Lee.
Fargo does not having a moving threshold, I suspect. It could be a prepacked rating system repurposed for pool.
I saw her in competition at US open. She is a leader but she doesnt promote as heavily as Jeanette Lee.
Fargo does not having a moving threshold, I suspect. It could be a prepacked rating system repurposed for pool.
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From the FargoRate website:
"It is tempting simply to drop off old games in favor of new games for players that play regularly such that the rating is always reflecting a recent skill level. But that strategy is a mixed bag. The reason is that each game impacts the rating of both players. And while a particular game may seem old or unimportant for one player, that same game might be a key ingredient of the rating of the opponent, who maybe hasn’t played many games.
To address this issue, the weight of a match towards a players rating diminishes over time. The end result is that more recent matches have a greater influence on a player's rating than do older matches."
Sky is just a good average American player … He’s alright but he won’t win a Matchroom event … The top pro players will tell you the same … He was a Mosconi Cup player for America due to us not really have any great players besides SVB …
Justin Bergman
And
Justin Hall
Then it drops off!
Honorable mention Tyler Styer
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i suppose this is sarcasm? sky just played one of the best matches on a big stage ever, has made two consecutive semifinals in 256-player pro tournaments abroad, beaten by the eventual winner in both.
And I'm not betting a dime on Hall or Styer
2 tournaments over that long of a career does not make a champion.
Agreed
I was reaching! Bergman is superior....
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