Which cue maker would you buy from?

bobroberts

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I am thinking of buying a new cue and I am wondering what everyones opinion would be on this.Keep in mind that I would prefer the cue to go up in value or at least not go down in value.I know the whim of this changes almost daily but I am still curious what you all think.I probably will wait to go to Valley Forge to see all the CM's there and then decide.I would also like to kepp it in the 2k or under range.
 
bobroberts said:
I am thinking of buying a new cue and I am wondering what everyones opinion would be on this.Keep in mind that I would prefer the cue to go up in value or at least not go down in value.I know the whim of this changes almost daily but I am still curious what you all think.I probably will wait to go to Valley Forge to see all the CM's there and then decide.I would also like to kepp it in the 2k or under range.

If you want a cue that's got a good chance to go up in value or stay the same I would think you're looking at a decent wait period as these cuemakers have lists. If you want to speculate, then that is a whole other ball game! I personally really like Skip Weston Cues. I think his work is up there with the best of them.
 
Chudy-

bobroberts said:
I am thinking of buying a new cue and I am wondering what everyones opinion would be on this.Keep in mind that I would prefer the cue to go up in value or at least not go down in value.I know the whim of this changes almost daily but I am still curious what you all think.I probably will wait to go to Valley Forge to see all the CM's there and then decide.I would also like to kepp it in the 2k or under range.

Richard Chudy's cues are excellent, his waiting list is not that long, and his basic cue is under $2000-
 
bobroberts said:
I am thinking of buying a new cue and I am wondering what everyones opinion would be on this.Keep in mind that I would prefer the cue to go up in value or at least not go down in value.I know the whim of this changes almost daily but I am still curious what you all think.I probably will wait to go to Valley Forge to see all the CM's there and then decide.I would also like to kepp it in the 2k or under range.

I'm with Zeeder on this one. Skip is definitely my cuemaker.
 
DJKeys said:
Richard Chudy's cues are excellent, his waiting list is not that long, and his basic cue is under $2000-
I just met him last week and he is at the top of my list.The cues he had were way over 2k though.
 
zeeder said:
If you want a cue that's got a good chance to go up in value or stay the same I would think you're looking at a decent wait period as these cuemakers have lists. If you want to speculate, then that is a whole other ball game! I personally really like Skip Weston Cues. I think his work is up there with the best of them.

New avatar Zeeder? Cute, really cute!
 
coastydad said:
I'm with Zeeder on this one. Skip is definitely my cuemaker.

I am gonna third that motion from both zeeder and coastydad...Skip's the way to go. Pictures NEVER seem to do his cues justice. Flawless workmanship, solid awesome playing cues. The best way to describe his cues in person is 'crisp'.

And he is just the best to work with! I am currently in the middle of designing a new cue with him. I may disclose more once the design is finalized.

Lisa
 
Have to agree that Skip should be considered but I would also like to throw out another great value for the buck cue builder - Mike Bender.
 
Tough Question

Skip Makes A Nice Cue. Don't Forget About James White/paul Mottey. Those Guys Can Get You A Nice Cue For @2000.00 If Wait Time Wasn't An Issue, And You Can Get On The List(last I Heard He Wasn't Taking Orders) I, Of Course, Would Get A Tascarella.
 
ridewiththewind said:
And he is just the best to work with! I am currently in the middle of designing a new cue with him. I may disclose more once the design is finalized.

Lisa

Me too :)
Just finalized the specs and will be sending a down payment next week.

Koop

P.S. Bob, if you go to V.F. let me know and we can meet up. I'll definitely be there.
 
Unless you already have a specific custom design you want, in my opinion there are VERY few cues out there that will not at least immediately take a hit in value, although some much less significant than others. I would strongly consider buying a cue from a reputable custom cue dealer. You will normally not have to pay the full new retail, and don't have any waiting period.

As far as the Skip Weston cues I have seen/owned, they are virtually flawless, as are Mike Bender's. Other customs I would consider that, I would certainly think will at the least hold their value are:

1) Southwest - everyone wants one and they have a long wait. Very easy to flip and get at least your money back. Virtually no design variation without significant cost.
2) Mottey/White - less wait time
3) Bender - 2 year wait, great cue, but not tons of different designs unless you really start to fork over the $$$
4) Barry Szamboti - What can I say. Great execution, good hitting, but you will walk away with a very thin wallet, even for a relatively plain cue. Long wait
5) Tascarella - Same as Barry, but not quite as high on the price. Long wait.
6) Hercek - long wait, great cue, classic designs
 
Judd cues hold their value and they hit great. But he has a year wait. It's worth it. Basic cue starts at 700.00 and up..
 
Chudy-

bobroberts said:
I just met him last week and he is at the top of my list.The cues he had were way over 2k though.

His fancy ones are. They start about $3K.His classics I thought were less, but his work is starting to get very popular, so maybe the prices have gone up on the classic series since I bought mine back in 2003.
 
Going to Valley Forge is the best idea. Several of the guys mentioned will be there. If you find something there you like.....no waiting - leave with your cue. Also there are lots of used cues there. It can be a sensory overload. Remember to breath once in a while. In adition to the guys listed in the above posts I'd add Tim Scruggs to your list. His great hitting high quality cues always seem to hold value.
 
If you are talking about designing a new cue with a maker and getting it in a short amount of time, the names above will get you a great cue. However, like someone said, you will take a hit if you want to turn the cue in the short term. Unless you get a "wholesale" price from them, retail prices suck (as a seller) right now.

If you want to shop around and get a cue that is "new" to you, but used in real life, you won't lose money on Hercek & Searing. However, they are $2k and up in price and their wait lists are NOT short. Under $2k, I can recommend Mottey, White and Scruggs. Not to knock others mentioned above, these three I personally love the hit of and the workmanship is great.

VF is probably your best bet. I've been told that if you can't find a cue there, you ain't lookin'! :cool:
 
DJKeys said:
His fancy ones are. They start about $3K.His classics I thought were less, but his work is starting to get very popular, so maybe the prices have gone up on the classic series since I bought mine back in 2003.
When I met Mr. Chudy at the cue show last year in Park City he said he would sell me a six point cue with veneers for $1250 and the prices he quoted me on his players/non fancy cues seemed decent. He was a really nice guy as were most of the cuemakers at the show. I would buy one myself but I've got most of my BR invested in a Zylr and gambling.

-Andy
 
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ScottR said:
If you are talking about designing a new cue with a maker and getting it in a short amount of time, the names above will get you a great cue. However, like someone said, you will take a hit if you want to turn the cue in the short term. Unless you get a "wholesale" price from them, retail prices suck (as a seller) right now.

If you want to shop around and get a cue that is "new" to you, but used in real life, you won't lose money on Hercek & Searing. However, they are $2k and up in price and their wait lists are NOT short. Under $2k, I can recommend Mottey, White and Scruggs. Not to knock others mentioned above, these three I personally love the hit of and the workmanship is great.

VF is probably your best bet. I've been told that if you can't find a cue there, you ain't lookin'! :cool:


I agree with everything you've said here except, "Unless you get a "wholesale" price from them, retail prices suck (as a seller) right now". That's not necessarily always the case. There are still some exceptions to be found. One that certainly comes to mind is Joel Hercek. His "retail" price on a very fancy cue is still around $3000. But due to the great demand for his work these days, the "market" price for that same $3000 cue would most likely be $3800-$4000, maybe even somewhat more if it's a killer design. But Joel's waiting list is about 6 years now, so if you ain't on it, then you couldn't take advantage of the current market. Same story with South West.

I suspect that it would be tough to get any legitimate cue maker to "wholesale" somebody a single cue. Usually to get any kind of a deal like that there has to be a long-term commitment (then you're not just a consumer but a dealer). And even at that, there are cue makers that do not offer discounts of any kind.

There are a lot of factors when you talk about the subject of price within the collectible cue market.

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So with that in mind, for the original poster, my nominations for best value in a new cue direct from the cuemaker with excellent resale value in the $2k and under range are:

The top based on my experience....Hercek, Searing, South West, Mottey, White, Zylr, Judd, Blue Grass, and Gilbert....some are obviously A LOT harder to get your hands on than others.

A lower end Gina, Tad, Cognoscenti, Bender, or nice design Skip Weston will also hold its value pretty well in your price range.

There are some other very respected cuemakers out there that offer cues in this price range, but their fancier stuff ($3-$4k and up) has much better resale in the current market than their entry-level cues.

ScottR is dead on....if you can't find a cue at Valley Forge in your budget ($500-$20,000), then you either ain't looking or are very, very, very picky. :)

Sean
 
cueaddicts said:
ScottR is dead on....if you can't find a cue at Valley Forge in your budget ($500-$20,000), then you either ain't looking or are very, very, very picky. :)

I agree... plus you have the chance to actually hit a few balls with it and see if it's really what you want. I never found a cue with a hit I was happy with until I hit some balls with a Layani - I now have 3 (soon to be 4)...
 
My personal fav's: Richard Black and Mike Capone!!! Both are great cues and hold value!

Irish
 
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