Which Cuemaker makes the best overall shafts?

I saw a video about Ernie Gutierrez and his cue making process and I found out something that amazed me. Ernie takes 10 years to complete a shaft from start to finish. He said he could build a shaft in 30 minutes with his machines already set up, but that wouldn't give the wood time to settle after each cut. I've never heard of another cue maker even coming close to this kind of attention to detail and striving for perfection. Imagine buying a new Gina cue and the 2 shafts that come with your cue were carefully handled and put together over a 10 year period to be sure that they were as perfect as possible and would remain straight!

My vote goes to Ernie Gutierrez for building the best shaft.

James

James

Ernie's got shafts in differing stages of the process standing straight up in tubs. Maybe 150 blanks per tub ? Something like that. Anyway one day he'll grab a tub and take the shafts that maybe he turned down a bit a year ago, check each for straightness and turn them down a little more, and then back they go in the tub for a year. When he is done with a batch of cues (generally 30-50 at a time) he'll go to his last tub and those shafts were started some 10 years ago and maybe have had 8 or 9 preliminary cuts. Those blanks get the joints and ferrules and final cuts.

The guy has a total love and understanding of machines and the process, and when he's doing the shaft dealy, he gets a little machine-like himself. Like most of the stuff that happens in that million dollar facility of his, it can be a little awe inspiring to watch.

Ernie Gutierrez will look you straight in the eye and talk about a couple 100s of an inch as if it was a 5 lane superhighway.

Kevin
 
...If you were to get ten shafts from the same cuemaker, I think its very likely that they will not all play exactly the same because no two pieces of wood are the same. ... Go figure.

Ive had 5 from Pat Diveney and i cannot percieve a difference unless I switch tips.
 
Bender Baby!

Mike Bender for me, have had 6 of his cues and never had a problem with the 12 shafts.But then all the top cue makers are top cuemakers for a reason. P.S. I have owned over 35 different cues over the years.
 
From Wayne Schmidt's site http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/billiards.htm#tester

NEW!!! The Dieckman shaft has arrived! Read how it tested out!

In January of 2006 I decided to see how much a shaft from a custom cue maker would cost and how much better it was than shafts from production houses. After an extensive search through all the cue makers in my link list, it was clear that Dennis Dieckman (Dieckman Cues) provided the most complete explanation of how he selects shaft wood, ages it, and slowly (over a period of years) turns it into a shaft. I contacted him and after several conversations he helped me decide on the best shaft for me. Once this was done, he checked his stock of nearly-complete shafts and suggested two that sounded like they'd fit my needs. After another discussion we decided on a proto-shaft made from 10-year wood (related to the fineness of the grain structure). He said it would take 6-months for the final turnings, aging, and finishing. When I asked how much it would cost I was amazed that it was less than what many production companies charge for their shafts.

The shaft arrived ahead of schedule heavily padded inside doubled-boxes to keep it safe. It was in perfect condition and even came with two extra water buffalo leather tips.

So how good is this shaft by Dennis Dieckman? Simply put, it is without question the finest shaft I have ever seen, measured, or handled. The warp is less than 0.001-inches. This is so straight that it challenged my ability to measure it. In fact it's more likely that what I measured has more to do with the inaccuracies of my equipment or technique. That anyone is able to achieve this high a quality starting with a piece of natural product is unbelievable.

The wood itself is perfectly straight-grained the entire length of the shaft.

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The greatly-magnified image above of the shaft taken near the tip shows a grain count of 10 layers over a 13mm diameter. (I had to turn it into a black-and-white image and increase the contrast to make the grains visible. In person they are so fine and uniform that they are almost impossible to see.) This works out to an incredible 20 grains per inch. This means that the tree from which this piece of wood came from grew very slowly and evenly, ideal for the highest quality shaft. What this proved to me was that not only is Mr. Dieckman a first-class artisan, he also knows good wood when he sees it.

All this sounds great but how does the shaft feel and play? The combination of the shaft and tip are perfect for me in that they provide a very solid, mellow sensation when stroking the cue ball. It fills me with a sense of confidence that I've never felt with any other shaft. I couldn't be more pleased with the shaft and if I ever need another one I will purchase it only from Dennis Dieckman.

In Dieckman own words http://www.cuemaker.com/Waynes World.htm

Could it be time for someone else to do a test?
 
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Keith Josey makes a great stiff hitting shaft. I would like to try one of his timeless timber shafts, but his regular shaft is the nuts. I like it much more than the plywood predator I was playing with before.
 
My Josey came with 2 standard shafts. Josey installs Talisman tips standard. I kinda wish I'd ordered one timeless timber, the other standard.

No complaints, tho.

Seems to me a custom cue maker would make the best shaft for his cue...
Only makes sense.

Very true that most of us have a limited experience...I mean, not many can afford to spend the bucks it would take to sample lots of cues and shafts?
 
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My thought is that Laurie Franklin at Southwest makes the best,chooses the wood and makes the cuts and tapers that play best.She may not always choose the most whie but that is not what makes the cue play so good
 
4th vote for Tad shafts, every shaft that comes out the shop is magic, period.
 
Had a Gus shaft that Ray Martin gave me. Never had a shaft that nice before or since. However, like a few cues I let get away, it's gone! :(
 
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