DeadPoked said:It's a prairie dog, dammit!Often confused with a chipmunk. But don't let its devastingly goodlooks fool you.
Well in that case, your prairie dog is an ugly hamster!
Which is the truth, guys?
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Well in that case, your prairie dog is an ugly hamster!
Blackjack said:At least he has nice head of hair.
Ouch, that hurt!
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TheOne said:Is it any wonder Pool is where it is?
A pool fan steps up and puts up a chunk of his own change and what does he get for this "donation"?
There's a clique alright and its the (thankfully few) group of players that don't give a $hit about the advancement of global pool, all they care about is the cash coming into their backpockets/house!
You're right. And that very same "pool fan" went to great lengths to vilify another "pool fan" who put up a much greater "chunk of his own change" and took a much bigger loss on his much bigger endeavor.
I guess that Randy has decided that it's better to adopt Trudeau's style (that he criticized so vehemently) rather than the PLAYER controlled basis he was preaching last year.
If this "pool fan" is so good then why doesn't he fund that organization and get pool as a whole where it should be?
Instead all I see, from a great distance off, is an egomaniac hypocrite who admittedly gets his jollies by staging events for himself to rub shoulders with players 1000 times his better.
Sorry, I don't drink that kool-aid and if Randy is held as an example of how to advance pool globally then I have to say that our perspectives are on different planes.
John Barton said:
what does it matter if this "egomaniacal hypocrite" gets his jollies staging events just to rub shoulders with pool pros,,,if in the meanwhile some players make money, and some spectators enjoy the show. with pool lacking significant sponsors, and leaving it up to indivisuals to do the work, what do you expect? there is no umbrella under which the pros play the game. they are disorganized(and is that the fault of this egomaniac?), and never on the same page.....thus having no product to induce big time sponsors even if such fictitious sponsors existed.
i don't think randy SOUGHT to be an example of how to advance pool. that's the chain all you pool guys hang on every angel's neck because you're all hardup for someone to come along and save your game. well,,,the game ain't gonna be saved,,,not in our lifetime, not is the usa. too many issues hold the game back. cash is the only de rigueur to buy into this table,,,and elite players and spectators alike are going to take it and like it because otherwise, there's nothing.
DeadPoked said:Jay you have been lacking an avatar for too long. I propose this one...
DeadPoked,
Did you see how the guinea pig- prarie dog- hamster thingamajig seems to be looking at the proposed "Jay's avator" and then swivels its head around? That little fellow is hypnotic to watch. I think he should be the official mascot of AZB.
DeadPoked said:How's that look Terry?
Looks like you got a winner!
He's your idea, so it's only fair that you should be the one who picks a name for the little fellow.
Any ideas?
Terry Ardeno said:
Well I only had the idea of using it as an avatar. It's very famous throughout the internet. It's known as "Drama Prairie dog". Although I was thinking... When I was in the Intelligence career field my call sign was BASO. He kind of looks like a BASO. Capitalized because it's an acronym. Not sure if I want to share what it actually means though... haha. Intel community can be harsh when it comes to call signs. One guy I worked with was named SWOT (Shameless Waste Of Testicles).
John Barton said:
Oh dear you didn't just compare Randy to KT did you?! Talk about backing a dead horse lol.
Randy put up his money and unlike KT....
- Used the WPA which meant most the players got their invited based on country rankings. (KT system was the very definition of a clique!)
- Wasn't looking to make a profit or fund is event via the players!
- As far as I'm aware RG isn't a crook?
- Did it out of the love of the game.
- Actually paid the players!
But this isn't about KT really, my point is everyone cry's that pool needs a suger daddy and sponsors. But what happens when we get what we wish for? RG has taken no end of crap on this forum for his donation and CW even more despite advancing our great game in Asia and to the USA.
It's obvious you and Randy don't like each other but it's also obvious that a few players and regular posters on her don't care about pool as a sport, all they care about is themselves.
DeadPoked said:
I do not have a problem with players bieng a bit onery, I am just saying that starting 5 threads a week about the same subject isnt getting anything solved. Despite past "discussions" with Grady, I do respect him as a player, a promoter and a commentator. But you get alot more done with honey than vinegar. Trying working it out for the good of the sport.
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TheOne said:Oh dear you didn't just compare Randy to KT did you?! Talk about backing a dead horse lol.
Randy put up his money and unlike KT....
- Used the WPA which meant most the players got their invited based on country rankings. (KT system was the very definition of a clique!)
- Wasn't looking to make a profit or fund is event via the players!
- As far as I'm aware RG isn't a crook?
- Did it out of the love of the game.
- Actually paid the players!
But this isn't about KT really, my point is everyone cry's that pool needs a suger daddy and sponsors. But what happens when we get what we wish for? RG has taken no end of crap on this forum for his donation and CW even more despite advancing our great game in Asia and to the USA.
It's obvious you and Randy don't like each other but it's also obvious that a few players and regular posters on her don't care about pool as a sport, all they care about is themselves.
Well Craig,
I really admire Randy for doing something. I have said as much.
However Randy has also endeared himself to me and many others with comments to the effect that we are not worth anything because we are not as wealthy as him.
All along I have said that Randy can do whatever he wants to do for whatever reasons he chooses as long as he bills it accordingly.
The 14.1 "World Championship" was not filled as a true world championship should have been filled. That much is incontrovertible and established factual history.
Whether that is Randy's doing or not is in question. I tend to think that perhaps he did NOT have too active a hand in the selection process as that is probably something that he would prefer to leave to the "little people". I am quite sure however that there was a short list of people that were not going to be excluded no matter what their qualifications or lack thereof were.
David Sapolis stated that Randy called him personally to extend an invitation. Randy does not deny that but instead says David spoke out of turn, whatever that means. If Randy did call David personally then it belies his claim that he had nothing to do with the selection process and also implies that the process is flawed because David has no qualifications that should grant him a berth in a "World Championship".
If the event had been billed the NYCUE GUY 14.1 Revival then sure - do what you want, invite who you want, no one cares. But when you seek to have the "World Championship" then perhaps you should be more respectful of the title.
Now Randy states that he is going to attempt - and probably succeed - to brand a tournament as the WPA World One Pocket Championship solely out of spite and that it will be invitational. If he wants to do it as an unsanctioned event then go ahead. Mike Sigel is a one time IPT World 8 Ball Champion but I don't think that title will be making it into any record books very soon.
Anyway, the whole point of this is Craig is that Randy is stating that he will do the exact things that he condemned Trudeau for. And that is principally to strongarm the pool world - "Because I can" to quote both Randy Goldwater and Kevin Trudeau.
And the saddest part of all - is that they can.
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bruin70 said:
I don't know what Randy seeks other than the pearls he lays before us little people's feet.
I have NEVER said that pool needs an angel investor. And I don't mind if a guy wants to put on tournaments. Hell I have put up all the money for small local tournaments just to have something to do as well.
But it would be ludicrous of me to put up a tournament in my state - invite only the players I want and exclude the ones I don't and call it a State Championship.
That is the problem I have with it. I have stated as much many many many times in regards to the WPA and Trudeau and the APA and so on....
I have a huge problem with fragmentation.
The awful and inconvenient truth is that it is EXACTLY as Randy says it is. He, or anyone like him, can come in and stage events and dictate the terms and no one can do anything about it.
When he was on the crusade against Trudeau he made noise about supporting a Player's Union. Where is it? That would be the contribution that the game needs instead of one psuedo "world championship" per year.
Bankrolling the Player's Union and creating an organization that puts the power in the hands of the players would cement Randy Goldwater's spot in the Hall of Fame.
But that is all apparently just a phase and not as gratifying as buying a few players for a week. Which I have no problem with. They are pros who expect to get paid to play and he is paying. I only have issue with the method personally.
