which pin? 3/8x10, 5/16x14, radial or uniloc?

Steel joint = harder hit less feedback
3x810 and Radial = close to the same I find unless one pin
is steel and one brass.
Uniloc= never had an issue ever with this joint but again less feel if
its a steel joint but have seen some uniloc joints on Phenolic
by Paul Drexler and get great reviews.

Most 5x1614 joints are common and reliable,
Most 5x1618 joints were fantastic many moons ago
but now mostly affiliated with low end cues.

On a side note, for me I'd stay the heck away from G-10 material unless you get
a Cog. These pins are real odd and tear the living heck on your shaft threads unless
its machined to perfection.
I've had a couple cues with this pin and when put together they never felt
like it was tight tight and got an aftermarket shaft to go on one and it
was just awful when screwing it together. A few big cuemakers on this forum do
not like these pins as well.
Do some research before you buy.Goodluck
 
whammo57 said:
I always told people that the pin's job was done as soon as you tighten the shaft and the butt together.............

Well I took in a cue from a local player that had a SS 3/8-10 pin.... I shot a few racks and then I changed the pin to a G10 3/8-10 pin............

Then I shot a few more racks................ anyone that says there is not a difference has never tried this.........

There is a great difference in that you can feel the cue strike the cue ball more sharply in the palm of your hand........

Kim
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Sometimes it's easy to tell the difference, but much more difficult to really know why.

Things aren't always as they seem.


Royce
 
bbb said:
hey guys
this is a fun thread
BUT
its really the indian not the arrow.....:(
sorry to pop your cherry
icbw
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I shoot better with a Josey arrow than a Walmart arrow....just me I guess ;) And I prefer Radial or 3/8X10 for sure. I've really liked the cues I've had that had these pins. Played best for me and felt best...
 
whammo57 said:
I always told people that the pin's job was done as soon as you tighten the shaft and the butt together.............

Well I took in a cue from a local player that had a SS 3/8-10 pin.... I shot a few racks and then I changed the pin to a G10 3/8-10 pin............

Then I shot a few more racks................ anyone that says there is not a difference has never tried this.........

There is a great difference in that you can feel the cue strike the cue ball more sharply in the palm of your hand........

Kim
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Hate to agree with you as we may both get shot instead of just you. Prefer the G-10 pins, whether radial or 3/8x10. As Joey states there is about an ounce difference. This means you can balance the cue a little different for the same final weight. All the various pin and insert, or lack of insert, combos have different weights. This effects which shaft one might put on the cue as a shaft with a final weight of 3.7oz with a 3/8x10 thread is heavier than a shaft that weighs 3.7oz with an 8 gram insert.
 
3/8 x 10 and 5/16 x 14 are probably the most common. That helps when you go shopping for another shaft or butt.

I like the feel of my 3/8 x 10 but the "feel" is probably more a function of tip, shaft construction, etc. than pin-type.
 
smashmouth said:
I'm looking to get a cue butt that will accommodate both a Mezz WX900 and an OB 1 plus


both shafts are currently offered in 3/8x10, 5/16x14, radial and uni-loc?

I prefer a soft hit and maximum feedback and I'm thinking wood to wood 3/8x 10 however would appreciate all your input

thanks
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For wood to wood, I would go with the radial. In terms of switching out shafts and ordering for the future, the (real) radial is highly uniform. My cue is a JW with an ivory joint. I can order a replacement radial shaft from any maker and it fits perfectly and precisely as if it were made for my cue. Radials also rarely come loose and never cross thread.

When I say radial, of course I mean the uniloc radial. The imported copies do not necessarily have the same specs.

Next choice for me would be 3/8 X 10. It's also a good joint but there is variance from cue maker to cue maker.

I'm not that crazy about 5/16X14 because of cross threading and inserts coming loose, variations in pilot depth and diameter. Uniloc - no luck with them at all, rattles and coming unscrewed during play.
 
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