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jhunterr

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I just got finished playing with Dad's Szam. The cue hits sooooo goooood, I wander which LD shaft I should play with? I know they will improve the play of the cue.
 
I would suggest you stick with the Szamboti shafts. Then again I do not like the aftermarket LD shafts.
 
I just got finished playing with Dad's Szam. The cue hits sooooo goooood, I wander which LD shaft I should play with? I know they will improve the play of the cue.


I hope you are joking.

If not, punch yourself in the leg once, for all of us!!;)
 
LD Shaft

I will say I am a huge OB Classic fan and that's what I play with. However, I absolutely loved the Josey Timeless Timber shaft when I hit it with it...
I played with a friends Rick Howard and I liked it quite a bit too...
So many shafts and cues out there...If this cue that you're playing with hits that good I'm not sure why you would want to change.

If you're buying an LD shaft though I highly recommend that OB Classic...awesome shaft!
 
just for fun

I love all the talk about LD shafts and thougt this would be fun. I would never play with a LD shaft. I don't believe the hype. The originals play great. I wonder how this would go if I said a Muecci (sp)?
 
I think a great piece of wood is a great piece of wood no matter who's name is on the bottom of it.If you think a LD shaft will play better for your style then try it out but if your just saying this stuff to see what reactions you get, then I guess your just bored.
 
Predator Z2 or the OB Classic Pro (the skinny one) either w/ a kamui medium tip. I'm a predator man myself, my friend uses the OB on his Scruggs and it plays real good. The simple fact of the matter is that the majority of good players use a Predator shaft. I don't have to list them all....but I'll throw a few out there - Dennis Orcullo (314), Ralf Souquet (Z2). Dennis has one on his Southwest cue (oh the shame! the shame!)

The "hit" will be virtually the same...but the shaft will allow for low deflection, and make it easier to aim, follow, and draw. I describe aiming with a Z2 as aiming most shots as almost hitting the ball full in the face. other Z2 players will know what I mean. The deflection is ridiculously low. It's like cheating. It is as simple as that. If you like deflection (which a lot of players do) then stick with the standard shaft.

All in all, I would advise anyone to think for themselves and experiment. Everyone is going to tell you what they "think" is best - including me...but only you can figure out what you like best.
 
I love all the talk about LD shafts and thougt this would be fun. I would never play with a LD shaft. I don't believe the hype. The originals play great. I wonder how this would go if I said a Muecci (sp)?

WTF? So this is just some sort of cue snob thread? You don't believe WHAT hype? The proof is in the pudding. My fault for not reading though the thread, and jumping the gun to attempt to add a helpful post. Keep believing that the more expensive a cue is, the better it "hits".
 
How do you "know they will improve the play of the cue"? Why do you think so?

For myself (and I've been playing a long time, and would say I'm above average in ability and knowledge) they improve the following:

1. Aim (the low deflection simply makes it easier to aim w/ and w/o english). It's like cheating. Hard, thin cuts are much easier as well.
2. They make it easier to follow the ball and draw the cueball. You can have a weaker stroke and get more reaction. If you have a good stroke, well, it is ridiculous what you can do with this shaft.
3. I have smaller hands so I need a skinnier shaft just to feel good. To achieve that w/ a normal shaft takes tons of tapering and working the shaft, and a lot of times if you rush it, the shaft will warp before getting skinny enough. I can just go buy a Z2 and I'm set. If the shaft is not comfortable, you will play worse.

Those are my thoughts. Good question.
 
I just got finished playing with Dad's Szam. The cue hits sooooo goooood, I wander which LD shaft I should play with? I know they will improve the play of the cue.

The most important part of any cue is the 29" from joint to pin! I'm a fan of Tiger Ultra X shafts! The Sniper tip is IMO the best tip on the market! Getting an LD shaft for your cue also allows you to keep the original shafts in pristine condition in the event your Dad wants to sell the cue at sometime in the future. Then you can keep the shaft, and put it on a different butt and have a consistent "feel". I have many different cues...but I use the same shaft on ALL of them!
BTW, anyone who tells you the hit will be the same with a Predator shaft is pulling your leg! A Predator shaft will change the hit on any cue!
 
For myself (and I've been playing a long time, and would say I'm above average in ability and knowledge) they improve the following:

1. Aim (the low deflection simply makes it easier to aim w/ and w/o english). It's like cheating. Hard, thin cuts are much easier as well.
2. They make it easier to follow the ball and draw the cueball. You can have a weaker stroke and get more reaction. If you have a good stroke, well, it is ridiculous what you can do with this shaft.
3. I have smaller hands so I need a skinnier shaft just to feel good. To achieve that w/ a normal shaft takes tons of tapering and working the shaft, and a lot of times if you rush it, the shaft will warp before getting skinny enough. I can just go buy a Z2 and I'm set. If the shaft is not comfortable, you will play worse.

Those are my thoughts. Good question.

You very well may play...well, but it's obvious you don't understand much
about english and aiming.

This is the hype they were talking about.

Aiming is aiming - how could they possibly make aiming easier?

The claim is you need to make less of an adjustment.

You still have to know how much of an adjustment.

Your contention that aiming without english is also easier,
is silly at best.

But, if you're happy, I'm happy.

Dale
 
You very well may play...well, but it's obvious you don't understand much
about english and aiming.

This is the hype they were talking about.

Aiming is aiming - how could they possibly make aiming easier?

The claim is you need to make less of an adjustment.

You still have to know how much of an adjustment.

Your contention that aiming without english is also easier,
is silly at best.

But, if you're happy, I'm happy.

Dale

I don't know how a LD shaft would making aiming easier on shots without english, but they do reduce/eliminate squirt, depending on length of shot and how hard you hit it, so it is likely they could make aiming easier on shots with english...so the story goes.
 
You very well may play...well, but it's obvious you don't understand much
about english and aiming.

This is the hype they were talking about.

Aiming is aiming - how could they possibly make aiming easier?

The claim is you need to make less of an adjustment.

You still have to know how much of an adjustment.

Your contention that aiming without english is also easier,
is silly at best.

But, if you're happy, I'm happy.

Dale

In my opinion, you simply don't have to cut the object ball as much. You don't have to adjust for swerve or skid (or whatever you like to call it) when utilizing english. That makes it easier to me. Did I say aiming "without" english? I meant aiming "with" english. Glad I made you happy, Dick, I mean Dale.

Matt
 
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