But every shot going is to that 4.5" pocket, how often do you shoot rail to rail on that big table? Unless you get real unlucky most shots will be around 1/2 a table in length.
Which table is easier if you had to beat the ghost for $1 million?
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I have to say we go with the diamond.
I played a lot of 9' tournaments and only a couple times have I played all day without missing a ball I intended to pocket.
Ive only played a couple 7' events and did it in one of those.
I played a lot of 9' tournaments and only a couple times have I played all day without missing a ball I intended to pocket.
Ive only played a couple 7' events and did it in one of those.
The half table shot on the 7’ table is still way easier than the half table shot on the 9’ table. For all comparable shots, the OB is closer to the pocket on the 7’ table and the OB is closer to the CB on the 7’ table.
For the cash would you rather shoot one spot shot on the 7’ Diamond or on the 9’ Gold Crown? Just about anyone would choose the 7’ Diamond.
That's just one shot that one would most certainly face playing on either table. Which table would you rather shoot a long cut up the rail? One wrong touch of the long rail on a Diamond & the object ball isn't going to fall. Don't know if that can be said with equal certainty on the Gold Crown.
The OP question isn't one of individuals pre conceived notions or ability to play the game on either table.
It is 100% about what table is easier? To me that means what table is going to be more forgiving pocketing balls. That in the long run is how a player is going to beat the ghost - by pocketing balls. Now does the smaller playing surface makes that happen? I personally don't think so with the way the Diamond rails & pocket geometry actually play.
Maybe that all evens out in a race to 100?
I feel like we keep asking the same question with different words. The toughest bar tables are way easier than the friendliest of big tables. This is another version of those people asking if a really, really strong MMA fighter could beat up a silverback gorilla. 
Fact is to this point after 36 votes, 3 out of 4 players in this survey choose the 7’ Diamond to play the ghost. I don’t look for this percentage to significantly change back towards the 9’ GC even if we get 500 votes.
Based upon all the the "kids table" talk that goes on here & the big table let's call is snobbery it is my belief that those voting have little or no experience at all playing a 7ft pro cut Diamond.
Therefore the final vote count is going to be just about absolutely meaningless.
These days, I would guess that more members here have played on a 7’ pro cut Diamond than have played on a 9’ standard cut Gold Crown.
You are correct that a more meaningful survey would be limited to players that have played extensively on both.
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That would be a mess... Bits of human everywhere...I feel like we keep asking the same question with different words. The toughest bar tables are way easier than the friendliest of big tables. This is another version of those people asking if a really, really strong MMA fighter could beat up a silverback gorilla.
Either that or there are players who play professional speed on both, nail the answer spot on, and it just doesn't jive with what you want to hear.
To be fair, I do think people can get carried away. Calling bar tables "kids tables" is an exaggeration for sure. Just wait until you're playing a set against SVB with thousands of dollars of calcutta money riding on your shot and a thousand people watching on a live stream. Doesn't feel so easy then!
But while all pool games are difficult, the truth is that if I had to make a run out against SVB for thousands in front of thousands I'd be much higher percentage on a bar table!
Demetrius,
Players including yourself make it a point to not play on the 7 foot tables in favor of the "big table." Now the reasoning may be vastly different, but I am going to say the "kids table" excuse ranks fairly high.
You are currently a 722 Fargo Rate player. I see a 727 in league & local tournaments all the time along with another 719. There are many 700 plus or minus players in the Rocky Mountain Region. So don't take this as a disrespectful statement, but "professional speed" doesn't mean a hill of beans to me.
So as for being spot on - maybe there is a point where things don't jive with what "pro speed" players believe or want to hear.
Here's what I have seen in the past 25 years or so in my local pool room going from very forgiving 9 foot tables along with Valley 7ft tables to now 7ft Diamond pro cut & (1) 9ft pro cut Diamond. The gap may not be as far apart as one would want to believe between 7ft & 9ft tables depending on make, model, setup.
Big table pockets can play like a 5 gallon bucket that you pick up at your local home improvement store. Pocketing balls on a 7 ft table at times can be much more difficult in actual play.
May not be the case with the OP's two choices, but again the gap isn't that far apart imho.
Isn't a race to a 100 the first player to win 100 games?
I'm personally a banger, and you all know I don't like Diamond rails. But when I play on a Diamond 7', I can be mistaken for a very good player by the crowd. On a 9' table, any brand, no way, I will miss a couple times every rack.
Originally you said "it is my belief that those voting have little or no experience at all playing a 7ft pro cut Diamond. Therefore the final vote count is going to be just about absolutely meaningless."
Now you say "maybe there is a point where things don't jive with what "pro speed" players believe or want to hear."
Since beginners are too inexperienced to vote and strong players are too out of touch to vote, it sounds like only you have a good read on the relatively difficulty of the tables. I'll defer to you.
What's your Fargo?
Okay, you want to play that game? Who are you & what is your Fargo?
Are you in kindergarten?
You're the one telling everybody on here that you know everything.
What's your Fargo champ?
No hoss you are the one that comes across here as the know it all. I am merely sharing my opinion on the subject from my perspective.
I play in many, many VNEA sanctioned tournaments & others that don't report to Fargo. I would say converatively only 1 out of the say six to 8 tournaments I play in a year report to Fargo. So to say my Fargo probably isn't quite accurate is not understated at all.
Last tourney I beat a 636 six to one. Lost to the 730 eight to four & was put out by a 657 six to two. When I get it going I can play a bit.
So most of the info I have in the system comes from league & it says 454.
Why don't you point to where I specifically said verbatim that I know everything & others know nothing. Don't put words in my mouth based upon what goes on in your head.
So again just who are you & what is your Fargo?
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Furthermore under the title,
Which table is easier if you had to beat the ghost for $1 million?
It says,
Which table would you choose to beat the ghost race to 100 for $1MM?
I will stick with choosing the 9 ft Gold Crown with the 5+ inch pockets.
As to debating the easier table, to be honest at this point I could give a shit.
Which table is easier if you had to beat the ghost for $1 million?
It says,
Which table would you choose to beat the ghost race to 100 for $1MM?
I will stick with choosing the 9 ft Gold Crown with the 5+ inch pockets.
As to debating the easier table, to be honest at this point I could give a shit.
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