Who all could Skyler Woodward play even against on the big tables (in 9 ball)?
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I would take Justin Bergman over any American except SVB, in a long race he beat Shaw by over 20 games in a race to 80 and Oscar by 16 games in a race to 80 both high stakes matches.
That is just my opinion but it would be nice to see him play Dechaine or Rodney or any other American but my money is on The Iceberg :smile:
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Yeah- I tend to forget about that guy.
Morris is at the top of his game this year, he can hang with anyone.
Sky won last years 2015 Texas open 9 ball championship that event is race to 9 on 9 ft Gold Grown tables
He doubled dipped Dennis Orcollo in the 2016 Texas open 10 ball championship finals on 9ft tables :smilewinkgrin:
And Sky almost won Texas Open 9 ball again 2 weeks ago in a super tough field he came in 2nd so he does just fine on 9ft tables :thumbup:
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Yeah but that stuff doesnt count because he is a bar table player. :thumbup:
With alternate break, Bergman might stay with Dechaine. Winner breaks, I think Mike wins easily.
justinb386
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I love Bergman's game. I would love to see a nice long match with Bergman vs Woodward (in a nice long race, on a 9 foot table).
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But those matches were very short races to 5(?), and alternating breaks I think. That is a completely different type of high pressure situation then a long race to 15 for example. I am not even sure what my point is.
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Sky won last years 2015 Texas open 9 ball championship that event is race to 9 on 9 ft Gold Grown tables
He doubled dipped Dennis Orcollo in the 2016 Texas open 10 ball championship finals on 9ft tables :smilewinkgrin:
And Sky almost won Texas Open 9 ball again 2 weeks ago in a super tough field he came in 2nd so he does just fine on 9ft tables :thumbup:
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Wow, I did not know. I do not keep up with billiard news. That is great. He must be playing some of the best pool of his life. Congrats to Sky on his wins. Thanks for the info.
That was the same thing Jason Shaw thought right before he lost 80-69 to Bergman playing winner break 10 ball and it cost him 20k to find out
Look me up if they play again and you can get a couple of games.
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Justin...You should probably leave the Fargo Rate discussions to those wh actually know how it works (which you obviously do not). Try to make your points based on your personal observations and/or opinions, and leave the math to those that know how it applies to players. That way, this can carry on as another one of your silly "what if" threads.
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I am sorry. I did do some reading about how the Fargo Rate system works. I thought it is pretty simple (not the math part, but how it works). I just thought it is calculated by the number of games won and the number of games lost in matches. Am I missing any other key factors about how the Fargo Rate system basically works? I am sorry again. I thought that I understood basically how the system works.
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justinb386
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Yeah, 7 foot bar tables are completely different then 9 foot tables. Look at Jesse Bowman for example. He was a great bar table champion, but he did not play nearly as well on the 9 foot tables. The same can probably be said for many other great bar table champions of the past and present (I do not know though).
You seem like perfect candidate to sign my petition to get rid of all 7 foot tables.
https://www.change.org/p/azbilliard...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
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Yeah, you can't match 2 players up (on any size table) based on their Fargo rating. I think that you could only do that if the Fargo rating was only based on 9 foot tables, and the match up being on the same size tables that the Fargo rate is used on. It is like if you put a 9 foot champion (who may have never played on a bar table) up against a bar table champion (playing a match on a bar table). In that case, the Fargo rating of the 2 players should be void in that situation, because the odds will probably be completely different then what the Fargo rating system says they are. I am sorry for talking about a system that I really do not know all about, but from what I read on the Fargo site, it seemed pretty basic (in that it was based on the amount of games won and games lost I think, and maybe final scores of matches). I did do a lot of reading about it one day, and it sounded pretty basic (not the match part, which I am clueless about, but the way the system works).
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Lol, I do not think you are going to get many supporters on here. I imagine this forum is mostly filled with league players, who happen to love bar tables (and may actually hate playing on the big tables, for the most part).
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I think that it is amazing on how well he has done in the big table events that he has played in, and how fast he seemed to become a great big table player. I always thought that he was just a bar table champion, but he has really proved me wrong. He is in fact an all around great champion player now (on any size table).
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I think that it would actually be greatly hurtful to the sport of pocket billiards if all 7 foot tables were demolished in the US, and they were no longer being made. The weaker players need bar tables (it is the only way they can feel that they are any good at times). Bar tables are also needed for the smaller bars that might not have enough room for a 9 foot table, because a 7 footer is better then having no table at all, right? Well, the league players will probably agree with me. I really do not understand why the pro's play on bar boxes though. Their skill level is way too high for the small tables. They should all be using their great skill on the super tight 9 footers, and not wasting their time on 7 footers (that they can run out on all day long with no worries).
How did Skyler do in the Philippines when he had recently went?
I saw he was playing against Johann Chua, Biado, and a couple other big names.
Why cant the US boys line up to play like that here? About the only time theres a match in the US it is exhibition or they're playing to split PPV appearance fees.
I saw he was playing against Johann Chua, Biado, and a couple other big names.
Why cant the US boys line up to play like that here? About the only time theres a match in the US it is exhibition or they're playing to split PPV appearance fees.
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I played against Skyler for about 3 years when he was younger (maybe 15-18 years old at the time), and during that time I had never seen him play on a bar box. He only played on 9-foot tables.
Yes, BB to 9 foot is a different game, just as 9 ball and 10 ball are different games. But don't doubt he is a great player on both.
For those who doubt Skyler's abilities, talents, and attitude, you do so at your own peril.....just warning ya.
Ken
I played against Skyler for about 3 years when he was younger (maybe 15-18 years old at the time), and during that time I had never seen him play on a bar box. He only played on 9-foot tables.
Yes, BB to 9 foot is a different game, just as 9 ball and 10 ball are different games. But don't doubt he is a great player on both.
For those who doubt Skyler's abilities, talents, and attitude, you do so at your own peril.....just warning ya.
Ken
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