who are the broadcasters on the Turning Stone stream

I appreciate all of Al's hard work, and I am glad we get to watch this stuff for free. Or not free, I don't mind paying for it myself. Thank God there are folks out there willing to do all this. But... now, I know I'm gonna get my nuts kicked in here for saying it... but Al's commentary drives me absolutely bonkers. And if I'm not allowed to say it here, how can he possibly improve?

His non-stop attempts to use simile, metaphor, and idiomatic phrases that he fails to understand make me shudder. "He flew out of his chair like a moth to the flame." ??? And the comment about the wine? Danny said not only had he never heard of it, he didn't even understand it. Even Danny D. questioned his use of these expressions, and he called him on it in public. Why can't I?

Literally every comment he makes mangles the English language in some way, and it ain't his "New Yawk" accent. Heck, I'm "Upstate Danny", and I sound too much like a Brooklyner myself, but at least I try my best not to use language and phases that are beyond my ken.

Then there's the image of Telly Savalas with the comment "We call that Kojak in the subway." We do? And he said it over and over and over again, each time accompanied by his own laughter. There is nothing funny about a pro scratching in a hotly contested match, it's just about the worst thing that can happen. And even if it was funny, please, give it a rest after a dozen times. I started to get a nervous twitch every time somebody scratched, just in anticipation of the lame comment and visual.

Danny, well I just love the guy. Warts and all. He's the best color commentator out there IMHO. Al should learn from him instead of trying to run right over everything he says.

I could go on, but I gotta get ready to dodge those bullets that I'm sure will follow this post.
 
I really enjoy any pool stream. I am guilty of saying something negative about a pool stream once; I regret it an will not do it again. I appreciate these folks dedication and hard work promoting pool.
 
Sloppy Pockets said:
I appreciate all of Al's hard work, and I am glad we get to watch this stuff for free. Or not free, I don't mind paying for it myself. Thank God there are folks out there willing to do all this. But... now, I know I'm gonna get my nuts kicked in here for saying it... but Al's commentary drives me absolutely bonkers. And if I'm not allowed to say it here, how can he possibly improve?

His non-stop attempts to use simile, metaphor, and idiomatic phrases that he fails to understand make me shudder. "He flew out of his chair like a moth to the flame." ??? And the comment about the wine? Danny said not only had he never heard of it, he didn't even understand it. Even Danny D. questioned his use of these expressions, and he called him on it in public. Why can't I?

Literally every comment he makes mangles the English language in some way, and it ain't his "New Yawk" accent. Heck, I'm "Upstate Danny", and I sound too much like a Brooklyner myself, but at least I try my best not to use language and phases that are beyond my ken.

Then there's the image of Telly Savalas with the comment "We call that Kojak in the subway." We do? And he said it over and over and over again, each time accompanied by his own laughter. There is nothing funny about a pro scratching in a hotly contested match, it's just about the worst thing that can happen. And even if it was funny, please, give it a rest after a dozen times. I started to get a nervous twitch every time somebody scratched, just in anticipation of the lame comment and visual.

Danny, well I just love the guy. Warts and all. He's the best color commentator out there IMHO. Al should learn from him instead of trying to run right over everything he says.

I could go on, but I gotta get ready to dodge those bullets that I'm sure will follow this post.
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I actually liked ALS commentary over Danny's and I'm from the south . A moth to a flame made perfect sense. Al called it better than Danny in my opinion ...., accent and all
 
peteypooldude said:
A moth to a flame made perfect sense. Al called it better than Danny in my opinion
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Well, that makes two of you, so maybe I'm wrong.:D

The image of a moth being drawn toward a flame is supposed to be symbolic of someone being irresistibly attracted to something that will ultimately cause their demise. Shaw leaping from his chair to immediately punish his opponent's mistake bore little resemblance to that image. Neither here, nor down in the genteel South. Which is why Danny was left scratching his head.
 
Sloppy Pockets said:
I appreciate all of Al's hard work, and I am glad we get to watch this stuff for free. Or not free, I don't mind paying for it myself. Thank God there are folks out there willing to do all this. But... now, I know I'm gonna get my nuts kicked in here for saying it... but Al's commentary drives me absolutely bonkers. And if I'm not allowed to say it here, how can he possibly improve?

His non-stop attempts to use simile, metaphor, and idiomatic phrases that he fails to understand make me shudder. "He flew out of his chair like a moth to the flame." ??? And the comment about the wine? Danny said not only had he never heard of it, he didn't even understand it. Even Danny D. questioned his use of these expressions, and he called him on it in public. Why can't I?

Literally every comment he makes mangles the English language in some way, and it ain't his "New Yawk" accent. Heck, I'm "Upstate Danny", and I sound too much like a Brooklyner myself, but at least I try my best not to use language and phases that are beyond my ken.

Then there's the image of Telly Savalas with the comment "We call that Kojak in the subway." We do? And he said it over and over and over again, each time accompanied by his own laughter. There is nothing funny about a pro scratching in a hotly contested match, it's just about the worst thing that can happen. And even if it was funny, please, give it a rest after a dozen times. I started to get a nervous twitch every time somebody scratched, just in anticipation of the lame comment and visual.

Danny, well I just love the guy. Warts and all. He's the best color commentator out there IMHO. Al should learn from him instead of trying to run right over everything he says.

I could go on, but I gotta get ready to dodge those bullets that I'm sure will follow this post.
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I don't think you deserve to have your "nuts kicked in" for sharing your honest opinion. Especially having done so in a mature, non-venemous way.

Al's comment about the "wine" was botched up a little but it was him trying to play off of a Keith McCready expression where he would tell the balls 'get dressed, ladies, we're going out'.

Danny, as you know, loves to needle his co-commentators, and yes indeed, he jumped on that opportunity.

Just like you said how you love Danny, warts and all. I think there's quite a few of us who feel similarly about Al.

And good grammar and sentence structure never seemed to be a requirement for pool enthusiasts.

I'd be willing to bet medium that the majority who read your post didn't know why you used some guy named "ken" the way you did above. :wink:

best,
brian kc
 
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Al does a GREAT job and works his ass off. Like KC says, he puts in loooooooooooong hours and still wants to go on!! Good man!
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
I'd be willing to bet medium that the majority who read your post didn't know why you used some guy named "ken" the way you did above.
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Ha, ha! I don't know why I used it, either. It just popped out of my typing finger. I first heard it used in a song from "The Sound of Music", and I think I remember thinking, "Who's Ken? I thought his name was 'Rolfe.' "

OK, maybe I'm a bit over the top here. So here's my small bit of advice for Mr. Leon, which he can either take or leave:

Less is often more.

Sorry if I offended so many. I really do appreciate everything AZtv is doing right now, and Al probably works a lot harder than I do these days. I'll give him a chance and hope he mellows in time...

Like a fine wine.;)
 
I will take Al and any of his guests over Mitch and the pocket cam.

Thank to Al for all of his time and free streaming.

🎱
 
oldplayer said:
I've said many times that upstate al is like the battery bunny, working many many hours to bring us these stream for FREE....danny, bless his soul, knows more about pool and road stories than most of us....the guy himself has had quite a life and I enjoy his commentary and quips more than any other. how could anyone complain about these guys doing what they can to promote the sport? :cool:
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Upstate Al does a fine job. He gets off topic now and then when he and someone else begin cutting up jackpots, but he's hard to beat at what he does when he keeps his mind focused on the game. I like the way he works.
Diliberto, on the other hand, can be a hopeless boor when he begins to ramble about his pro-boxing career (which I'm sure was stellar) and how many guys he robbed with his various cons. He is ESPECIALLY annoying when he relates how he recently challenged someone to a brawl, which in my opinion is total BS.
A 75 year old, little 140 pound guy doesn't inspire much fear....no matter how many people he wiped the floor with a half a century ago.
His pool knowledge is superior, he was a very good player way back when. And he is really good when he stays on topic about what's happening in the game at hand. When he starts to drift and pose various intellectual puzzles, I merely hit the mute button and check 15 minutes later to see if he's tired of hearing himself talk.
 
sjm said:
Upstate Al, Pat Fleming and Mike Howerton are the reasons we get to watch so much pool on the internet. They are three workaholics that do their thing so that we can enjoy great American-based pool events.

Pat Fleming is in the BCA Hall of Fame, but all three of these guys are in the SJM Hall of Fame.
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2 :thumbup::thumbup: for this one.... Hope to see ya at DCC!!!!!
 
I enjoy Al's presentation. He's down to Earth and affable. Who wouldn't like a guy like that in the booth?

Listening to Danny is like you're sitting right there with your best bud enjoying the match. A few jokes, a critique of the match, and a story or two thrown in for good measure. They get two thumbs up in my book! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Best,
Mike
 
GoldenFlash said:
Upstate Al does a fine job. He gets off topic now and then when he and someone else begin cutting up jackpots, but he's hard to beat at what he does when he keeps his mind focused on the game. I like the way he works.
Diliberto, on the other hand, can be a hopeless boor when he begins to ramble about his pro-boxing career (which I'm sure was stellar) and how many guys he robbed with his various cons. He is ESPECIALLY annoying when he relates how he recently challenged someone to a brawl, which in my opinion is total BS.
A 75 year old, little 140 pound guy doesn't inspire much fear....no matter how many people he wiped the floor with a half a century ago.
His pool knowledge is superior, he was a very good player way back when. And he is really good when he stays on topic about what's happening in the game at hand. When he starts to drift and pose various intellectual puzzles, I merely hit the mute button and check 15 minutes later to see if he's tired of hearing himself talk.
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Danny will be 80 next month and I would still take him in a brawl over some anon troll on teh interwebs..... What you do not get is that these matches are taped... Not everyone hears them live so if Danny tells a story 2 times in 1 day and it was relevant or he calls the 3 rail kick opening return in 1 pocket more than once it's not for the guys on the PPV but for the guys that buy the DVDs and watch matches later....

Danny and Incardona in the booth together are my favorites... For the wisdom, the humor... and the stories when even my mother knows how the player is running out another roadmap.....
 
When Shaw and Hernandez went hill (the 1st time) in a tournament finals. Upstate Al and his own crew were as excited as school girls. Their enthusiasm made an already good match stellar in my opinion!
 
The Renfro said:
Danny will be 80 next month and I would still take him in a brawl over some anon troll on teh interwebs..... What you do not get is that these matches are taped... Not everyone hears them live so if Danny tells a story 2 times in 1 day and it was relevant or he calls the 3 rail kick opening return in 1 pocket more than once it's not for the guys on the PPV but for the guys that buy the DVDs and watch matches later....
Danny and Incardona in the booth together are my favorites... For the wisdom, the humor... and the stories when even my mother knows how the player is running out another roadmap.....
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You're attaching a sentimental reverence to this man and it's overriding your common sense
What you don't get is that is absurd. (that is why he gets the mute button when he starts with that stuff.)
An 80 year old 140 pound "tough guy"????
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Sloppy Pockets said:
Well, that makes two of you, so maybe I'm wrong.:D

The image of a moth being drawn toward a flame is supposed to be symbolic of someone being irresistibly attracted to something that will ultimately cause their demise. Shaw leaping from his chair to immediately punish his opponent's mistake bore little resemblance to that image. Neither here, nor down in the genteel South. Which is why Danny was left scratching his head.
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Idk about the genteel south BUT there was no need for Danny to call him out constantly .
Maybe Al should of been calling Danny out every time he called something a$$ backwards. The more I listen to Danny the less I like his commentary. He's just too contrary for my taste.
 
I watched every minute I could and thoroughly enjoyed every minute I did. I enjoyed the color commentary and the analysis. Were they right every time? no. Has Danny been an angel? no. Does UpdateAl have foibles, yes. Are the streams worth watching? Most definitely yes. I look forward to all the Streams produced and commentated by UpstateAl. Keep up the good work. I appreciate it.

Al (a different Al) :smile:
 
GoldenFlash said:
Upstate Al does a fine job. He gets off topic now and then when he and someone else begin cutting up jackpots, but he's hard to beat at what he does when he keeps his mind focused on the game. I like the way he works.
Diliberto, on the other hand, can be a hopeless boor when he begins to ramble about his pro-boxing career (which I'm sure was stellar) and how many guys he robbed with his various cons. He is ESPECIALLY annoying when he relates how he recently challenged someone to a brawl, which in my opinion is total BS.
A 75 year old, little 140 pound guy doesn't inspire much fear....no matter how many people he wiped the floor with a half a century ago.
His pool knowledge is superior, he was a very good player way back when. And he is really good when he stays on topic about what's happening in the game at hand. When he starts to drift and pose various intellectual puzzles, I merely hit the mute button and check 15 minutes later to see if he's tired of hearing himself talk.
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Not too many years ago in a poolroom around Miami, Danny knocked some guy out or down. Johnnyt
 
Being given a free internet stream to live pool and complaining about the announcers is like getting a free Lexus and *****ing that you don't like the color.
 
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