Who Has Played CJ??

If the poll had a 20 rack option, there would have been some 20 pack runners
It was not a public poll there for it means nothing.
Put a 20 rack option on the next private poll and watch the results

I have to agree, even with that being a "lifetime high run" I do not see many people on the planet that have a 8-9 rack run on a properly setup 9 foot table. Although I have seen some A+ players run 5-6 racks several times in a tournament. I've watched one almost run out TWO sets in the Joss tour against Sossei and Hernandez in one tournament. I think he ran 5 or more racks in each set, and that's in the same day.
 
I have to agree, even with that being a "lifetime high run" I do not see many people on the planet that have a 8-9 rack run on a properly setup 9 foot table. Although I have seen some A+ players run 5-6 racks several times in a tournament. I've watched one almost run out TWO sets in the Joss tour against Sossei and Hernandez in one tournament. I think he ran 5 or more racks in each set, and that's in the same day.

Earl used to run 5's and 6's in every match he played! No joke. ;)
 
Earl used to run 5's and 6's in every match he played! No joke. ;)

Probably hehe, but we're talking about regular old shleps from the forums that took that poll. I don't even think Earl would average 5 racks in each match over any length of time.

You're saying Match as in a set in a tournament, not a Match meaning a full tournament? Or is the winky meant to say that it IS a Joke? LOL

Is there a tournament you can think of that he did this in? Even just one tournament where someone ran 5 racks every match would be very impressive! If it's something that AccuStats has on tape even better.
 
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I was surprised to see these past results was this before he masterd TOI
Not what I would consider world class performances



$2,750 9th place 2006 US Open 9-Ball Champion

$500 65th US Open 9-Ball Championship 2007

2010
$2,000 3rd Breakers 9-Ball Tournament
$450 7th Texas Open

2011 Tournament Results:
Payout Place Event
$1,100 17th Ultimate 10-Ball Championship Men's Division
$250 9th Midwest 9-Ball Tour Stop
$125 25th Texas Open

2012 Tournament Results:
Payout Place Event$250 21th Southern Classic 9-Ball Division


Past Titles:

1986 World Series of 8-Ball
$7,000
Payout Place Event$250 21th Southern Classic 9-Ball Division


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I was surprised to see these past results was this before he masterd TOI
Not what I would consider world class performances



$2,750 9th place 2006 US Open 9-Ball Champion

$500 65th US Open 9-Ball Championship 2007

2010
$2,000 3rd Breakers 9-Ball Tournament
$450 7th Texas Open

2011 Tournament Results:
Payout Place Event
$1,100 17th Ultimate 10-Ball Championship Men's Division
$250 9th Midwest 9-Ball Tour Stop
$125 25th Texas Open

2012 Tournament Results:
Payout Place Event$250 21th Southern Classic 9-Ball Division


Past Titles:

1986 World Series of 8-Ball
$7,000
Payout Place Event$250 21th Southern Classic 9-Ball Division


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He hasn't been competing in years. These are results from an out of stroke CJ
Not bad considering he has been retired from professional pool for years
Pretty strong to get up off the sofa and finish 9th in the open
<. Wondering if CJ got caught climbing out a window lol
 
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He hasn't been competing in years. These are results from an out of stroke CJ
Not bad considering he has been retired from professional pool for years
Pretty strong to get up off the sofa and finish 9th in the open
<. Wondering if CJ got caught climbing out a window lol

You may believe he just got up off the sofa but Im not buying that,,



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Well said Huck! No one went looking for CJ except maybe a certain Mr. Parica, who barred no one. :D

C.J. came to my poolroom back in the 80's. I didn't play him but I put Gary in action against him. I didn't see much of that safety play Jay mentioned, but I did see some of his firepower. He was one of very few that ever beat Gary in my poolroom for my money! Bugs tried several times and couldn't get there! Neither could Cecil Tugwell, Tony Fargo, John Brumback, Mark Jarvis, Joe Lawrence, Bucky Bell and a lonnnnnggggg list of others who tried. IIRC C.J. won about $1200 from us when he and Shanelle came through RFB Oakley in about '86 or '87. I wish he would have agreed to play some banks rather than 9-ball though. I think we would have broke him playing banks!

Sherm
 
You may believe he just got up off the sofa but Im not buying that,,



If Jay is telling you he was a world beater then why doubt Jay
He has nothing to gain. Seems like the problem you have with CJ is deeper than that.

No problem here I just don't have the man crush on him like others here do.
Do we judge pool players by the hustling ability or by their turny play because theirs a huge difference


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No problem here I just don't have the man crush on him like others here do.
Do we judge pool players by the hustling ability or by their turny play because theirs a huge difference


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Which method do you think we should use to judge a player?

Regards,
 
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C.J. came to my poolroom back in the 80's. I didn't play him but I put Gary in action against him. I didn't see much of that safety play Jay mentioned, but I did see some of his firepower. He was one of very few that ever beat Gary in my poolroom for my money! Bugs tried several times and couldn't get there! Neither could Cecil Tugwell, Tony Fargo, John Brumback, Mark Jarvis, Joe Lawrence, Bucky Bell and a lonnnnnggggg list of others who tried. IIRC C.J. won about $1200 from us when he and Shanelle came through RFB Oakley in about '86 or '87. I wish he would have agreed to play some banks rather than 9-ball though. I think we would have broke him playing banks!

Sherm

Did you not think you were going to break him playing 9 ball?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Well, given that he challenged the top 100 and NOBODY responded (or did they?), I'm flabbergasted that somebody won't step up if not for just the notoriety. I think it's more than just needing a backer because he'll play pretty cheap...$20/game? A shortstop in Dallas apparently has some huevos. I don't think CJ's a huckleberry, but he says he'll be one...
:D
 
Is it possible to like someone without having a Crush on them?
I like a lot of people but I do not have a crush on them! I once had a Crush on my ol lady, but that was it.....
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

Lock<------ Believe you can like a person with having a Crush on them!
 
a man played at SUCH a high level the hope I had of winning was to wear his arm out

C.J. came to my poolroom back in the 80's. I didn't play him but I put Gary in action against him. I didn't see much of that safety play Jay mentioned, but I did see some of his firepower. He was one of very few that ever beat Gary in my poolroom for my money! Bugs tried several times and couldn't get there! Neither could Cecil Tugwell, Tony Fargo, John Brumback, Mark Jarvis, Joe Lawrence, Bucky Bell and a lonnnnnggggg list of others who tried. IIRC C.J. won about $1200 from us when he and Shanelle came through RFB Oakley in about '86 or '87. I wish he would have agreed to play some banks rather than 9-ball though. I think we would have broke him playing banks!

Sherm

I remember this match and I must say Gary was one of the toughest players in the country at that time on his home court. This was one of my specialties was playing champions on their "home court" because that's where you could generally win the BIG scores. My advantage was my game got stronger over time (using the TOI system, now could it not?;)) so I liked playing long ahead sets, where concentration and stamina were important.

My "advisers" warned me that Gary would play perfectly on that table and not to expect him to give away a single game. As you said, he had beat just about everyone that ever tried to play him there and some by convincing margins.

We started the match and I started evaluating Gary's game, sizing it up for "weaknesses".....hmmm, an hour goes by and I didn't see any. I could tell he was NOT going to miss a ball, and his position play was flawless. hmmm

After two hours I figured he didn't have any "playing weaknesses," however his stroke used a bit to much "energy" (moving parts) it appeared (I'm not sure if that was correct, I was just trying to find a 'nick in his armour'). So I found my strategy, I would wear his arm out.....hey, it's better to have an unusual strategy than no strategy at all. :cool:

About 8 hours into the match a long draw shot came up and Gary's stroke hitched slightly and he rattled that ball. I jumped up from my seat, knowing this was the chance I'd been waiting on, his arm was getting tired!!!

From that point on I must have beat him the next 15 out of 17 games to win the game/set/match. I believe that's one of the few matches I played with that scenario, where a man played at SUCH a high level the only hope I had of winning was to wear his arm out. 'The Game is.....extremely tough sometimes':thumbup:
 
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Did you not think you were going to break him playing 9 ball?
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

No, we knew about C.J. We thought it would be a tough game game but we gave him some action hoping to get him stuck a little and/or switch to banks or one-hole. Don't think Gary couldn't play 9-ball. He had a winning record with Buddy, Davenport and many other great players. He out-moved C.J. but C.J. took some shots that most would think were a bit reckless, but he made them all and took down the money.

Sherm
 
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