who has the best stroke in the world ?

Masirib5

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Best stroke I ever saw (in person and playing him) was Leonardo Andam.
RIP Dodong!

So smooth and accurate and great position always.

--Jeff
 

Runner

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Stroke

I'll go with these guys in their prime:

Power = Earl

Finesse = Efren

Control = Buddy
 

RonRosas

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The Best Stroke?

May not be the best, but don't know that I've ever seen someone get more out of their stroke than Buddy Hall. So smooth and compact, very repeatable and he never needed that long stroke to get the power like some of the other guys.

I'd have to say Ron Rosas! Check out the youtube video where I beat Buddy Hall 11 to 3.
 

Poolmanis

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Mika Immonen 10 years ago...
I saw his stroke live back then and I was shocked how good it was when compared other pros.
I played against him last spring and I could not see that stroke anymore.
 

RonRosas

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Now here is a stroke!

See my youtube video against Buddy Hall!
 

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O'SulliReyes

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I'd have to go with Ronnie O'Sullivan's stroke/cue action. I categorize his stroke as somewhere in between a pool stroke and a snooker stroke. His stroke is not overly-mechanical and contrived unlike most snooker players'. It is a flowing action--his follow through and overall delivery is reminiscent to that of a pool player's.

The integration of elbow drop, couple with his exceptional gift for timing allows him to accelerate and cue through the ball better than any cueists--pool or snooker. This enables him to perform a lot of pool-esque shots on a snooker table. The combination of deadly accuracy and effortless power makes his stroke compatible for any cue sports table that has six pockets in it.

Efren Reyes' stroke is a close second. On a pool table, his stroke is unarguably as good as you can get. But the wavy nature of his stroke, due to the involvement of shoulder movement and unorthodox grip, invites more inconsistency--and such inconsistencies are magnified on tighter pool tables, let alone snooker tables. You will never see a top snooker player hold his cue with only his thumb and forefinger and release the cue at the moment of strike. While this enables Efren to cue through the ball just as well as Ronnie, it will take years for someone to replicate his unique delivery. There are simply too many moving parts involved. He was able to pull it off because he has the best rhythm--his feathering is akin to someone playing the violin, and this very fluid and consistent pre-shot routine gives him full confidence as he strikes the cue ball.

The fact that Efren remained in the top echelons of pool for as long as he did with that seemingly cartoonish stroke is testament to his otherwordly talent. I'd go so far as to say he's more naturally gifted than Ronnie!

If you look closely though, Ronnie's and Efren's final delivery of the cue are actually quite similar. Ronnie's final backswing in particular looks like a slowed-down version of Efren's.

Why not Stephen Hendry's? While his cue action is definitely the gold standard with regards to snooker fundamentals, his cue action is too deliberate and may not necessarily be translatable on a pool table. The main reason for his success wasn't his cue action, but his unbelievable temperament.

A perfect player in my view: someone who possesses Ronnie's stroke/cue action, Hendry's temperament and determination, and Efren's creativity, personality and longevity.
 
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stormshadow1

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I'd have to go with Ronnie O'Sullivan's stroke/cue action. I categorize his stroke as somewhere in between a pool stroke and a snooker stroke. His stroke is not overly-mechanical and contrived unlike most snooker players'. It is a flowing action--his follow through and overall delivery is reminiscent to that of a pool player's.

The integration of elbow drop, couple with his exceptional gift for timing allows him to accelerate and cue through through the ball better than any cueists--pool or snooker. This enables him to perform a lot of pool-esque shots on a snooker table. The combination of deadly accuracy and effortless power makes his stroke compatible for any cue sports table that has six pockets in it.

Efren Reyes' stroke is a close second. On a pool table, his stroke is unarguably as good as you can get. But the wavy nature of his stroke, due to the involvement of shoulder movement and unorthodox grip, invites more inconsistency--and such inconsistencies are magnified on tighter pool tables, let alone snooker tables.

Well said.

Keith in Colorado
 

wigglybridge

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this Semih Sayginer guy can't even hold the cue level.

being serious for a moment: those are amazing trick shots and phenomenal body control with an air bridge, but there's no way i can evaluate his stroke for anything else because he never hits a normal shot in any of that video.
 

KMRUNOUT

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Jimmy White. He had tremendous power, was able to spin the ball very well, and yet had top pro snooker accuracy to go alongside it.

He is no longer in his prime, but that guys stroke was a rock, he was a scary good player and one of the few snooker players who transitioned VERY well to 9-foots due to the power his stroke had. Few people I have ever seen look as solid as Jimmy was over the cueball.

Going on this, I'm thinking Stephen Lee. That has has disgusting stroke power, and top snooker accuracy to go with it. Doubt he' sever played pool though.

KMRUNOUT
 

KMRUNOUT

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its very important to clarify what you mean with best stroke.... straightest stroke ( if so, no way in the world Bustamante has the best stroke) or the most powerful?

The it is also important to clarify what you mean by "stroke". If you mean all the warmup and pre-shot practice strokes, then sure, makes sense about Bustamante. But have you ever actually looked at how straight his cue goes on his actual delivery? It's pretty insane. Check it out and see if your perspective changes on this.

KMRUNOUT
 

LHP5

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Odd answer but Warren Kiamco. Seriously, the guy looks like he barely puts any effort into hitting the cue ball but the damn thing dances around and finds perfect position every time.

That to me is a really good stoke and delivery.
 

mm4pool

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all good candidates have been mentioned. my personal opinion, Efren didnt need a big powerful stroke most of the time because he plays such PERFECT position regardless of game. and when he did miss position he had/has the stroke to come with a big shot to get back where he needs to be! Efren is still the man!

Mike
 
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