Who makes the best balls ?
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aramith tv set.
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They are made by the same company, Sulac. They use the same formula and specs in both sets of balls. I feel no difference in the play of the 2 sets of balls.
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Surface hardness will be a little different among some of the different named balls (most all are made by Saluc by the way). But I dont think most people if anyone can really feel a difference. One thing you can tell is if the balls are heavier/lighter than you are used to, is the cueball heavier/lighter and how they hold up to use. Do they get chipped easily? Do they lose their shine easily? Do they get out of round quickly? etc.
For the money though, I have always liked the Brunswick Centennials, I like the way the way the numbers look on them, very classy and traditional looking set.
I dont understand the whole tv ball sets and why people like them for home or commercial use....... using non-traditional colors is a mental adjustment that doesnt need to be made. Brown 7/15 and pink 4/12.... looks like a toy set everytime I see them.
Chuck
For the money though, I have always liked the Brunswick Centennials, I like the way the way the numbers look on them, very classy and traditional looking set.
I dont understand the whole tv ball sets and why people like them for home or commercial use....... using non-traditional colors is a mental adjustment that doesnt need to be made. Brown 7/15 and pink 4/12.... looks like a toy set everytime I see them.
Chuck
Its basically a coin toss between the Centennials and the Aramith sets.
If you took a set of each both brandnew and played with them for a whole day, I doubt you'd be able to tell if one set was better than another.
If you had two used sets with the same amount of play time on them and both are cleaned, i still doubt you'd be able to tell the difference in play with them.
If you took a set of each both brandnew and played with them for a whole day, I doubt you'd be able to tell if one set was better than another.
If you had two used sets with the same amount of play time on them and both are cleaned, i still doubt you'd be able to tell the difference in play with them.
I think they are no longer in business, at least for pool balls. I played with a set about 10 years ago, but they were said to be fire-damaged and didn't play well. There is a site on the internet offering Raschig carom balls, but I can find no site offering Raschig pool balls.Hunter said:
lenoxmjs said:
I gave your post some thought, and I checked out the sets of balls I am selling in my pool room.
I weighed the balls from a set of Aramith Pro, Aramith Premium, and a set of Brunswick Centennials, the results are listed below.
1) Brunswick Centenial set - New - all balls including the cue ball were 5.9 oz.
2) Aramith Super Pro set - New - 6 balls weighed 6.0 oz and the rest including the cue ball weighed 5.9 oz
3) Aramith Premium set - New - 8 balls weighed 6.0 oz and the rest including the cue ball weighed 5.9 oz.
This is the first time that I tried this, however it appears that the Brunswick Centenial balls have a truer weight standard.
How this effects the over all play, I am not certain but the standards weight seem to be different.
Maybe another poster can explain this further.
Manwon
manwon said:
The effect on play of a 0.1 oz. difference in weight will be negligible. We're talking about only 1.7% of a 5.9 oz. ball's weight.
Saluc (Aramith) makes its three grades of balls and the Centennials from the same resin using the same process. Batches of balls come out slightly different in weight and color. The closer the tolerance of weight variance desired, the more balls you have to pick through to make the set, and the more expensive the set is. Brunswick sets its own high standards, one pays accordingly.
Stylewise, I really like the Aramith Stone "Granite" balls. Web image don't do justice to the deep texture of these balls. They look fantastic in person.
Ok, heres a question i hope someone can answer?
After looking at the Aramith sets, they have
Crown
Continental
Premier
Premium
Stone / Granite set
and the Super Pro sets
if your buying a set for personal use, which obviously isnt going to be used as much as if its a pool hall set. Are you really going to notice any difference, between the Crown set, which i found for 60$ and the Super Pro's for 160$????
I did like the look of the Stone/Granite set which was for 90$ i believe.
I do have the Pro Cup cue ball, which playes very nice!! would there be any problems with matching this CB up with a set of Crowns or continentals? or even the Granites?
And when i say matching up, i mean is the CB weight going to be alot less than the other balls in the set? Or are all sets the same weight? per ball
After looking at the Aramith sets, they have
Crown
Continental
Premier
Premium
Stone / Granite set
and the Super Pro sets
if your buying a set for personal use, which obviously isnt going to be used as much as if its a pool hall set. Are you really going to notice any difference, between the Crown set, which i found for 60$ and the Super Pro's for 160$????
I did like the look of the Stone/Granite set which was for 90$ i believe.
I do have the Pro Cup cue ball, which playes very nice!! would there be any problems with matching this CB up with a set of Crowns or continentals? or even the Granites?
And when i say matching up, i mean is the CB weight going to be alot less than the other balls in the set? Or are all sets the same weight? per ball
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StormHotRod300 said:
I think if you were going to use a set for home use, you should buy the best.
The standards weight not even considered, the lower grade Aramith balls do not wear as good as the Top Grade balls.
I have tried them all in my pool room and while some posters may think they are made from the exact same resin, I am not certain that is true.
Aramith balls also have a coating that reduces temperature from friction on the cloth, so I would buy the best balls because one, they will last longer, two they will not cause as much wear on your cloth, and three the difference in price is minimal.
You can go on Flee Bay and buy New Aramith Pro Sets for around $110 delivered.
Manwon
You need to get a more accurate scale -- one that weighs with an accuracy of one gram or better. Your scale seems to round to 0.1 ounce, which is 3 grams. Pool balls weigh about 167 grams, so even a 1-gram-accurate weighing is only within half a percent or so.manwon said:
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manwon said:
I have heard that the "second quality" balls that don't pass the "first quality" tolerance requirements are not tossed out. I don't know the details, but some online dealers do state that they only sell "first quality" balls. I have no idea who sells second quality, but I'd be nervous to buy balls from anywhere but an "authorized dealer" (brick and mortar) or a highly reputable online billiard store, unless you're willing to take that risk.
Other reputable posters (OHB, for example) have mentioned that there are a lot of counterfeits out there. I wouldn't know how to tell the difference unless it is obvious. I don't know how authentic they look. I'd assume you could tell after playing with them for a while, but by then its too late.
I hope it doesn't sound like I'm spreading rumors since I don't know all the facts. Just wanted to give a heads up, and let you know you might want to check into it before you jump on a deal that sounds too good to be true.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that there are look-alike and counterfeit sets of balls out there. One set looks just like the Aramith Pro set (with the fancy numbers) and they even come in a box that looks just like the box Aramith used ten years ago (white circles on green background). You might notice the little metal sticker on the back of the box that says "China" if the weak glue hasn't let it fall off. The balls are lousy. There has been one report of them falling apart during play. Sometimes you can tell the fakes by the slightly off colors and duller surfaces.lenoxmjs said:
The new Aramith boxes have "Aramith" stamped all over them.
I think the "seconds" will play fine for the most part but might have minor surface defects and such. Most balls will be much worse than that after a few months of play.Cuebacca said:Looks like I mentioned it just as you were typing. Hehe.Glad someone who has first-hand knowledge brought this up. Thanks.
Do you know anything about the "second quality" balls?
But if the balls are counterfeit, all bets are off. You can get a set of the "Pro" look-alikes delivered to your door for $30, shipping included. I think this means that wholesale must be about $10.