Who uses the 90/90 aiming system?

I did not know where my previous post would fall nor whose post it would follow.

But now that I see such, I feel compelled to add that in PJ's post he was making reference to the how & why a system may work for some as being nonfactual or wishful thinking.

Also, one does not have to circle the earth multiple times or even once to 'know' that it is not flat.

Through just a few observations & previous understandings it can be shown that the earth is not flat through the use of logical, rational, cognitive, critical thinking.

That does not mean that for the intentions of playing a soccer game that the surface should not be 'considered' as flat.

Best Wishes to ALL.
 
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I did not know where my previous post would fall nor whose post it would follow.

But now that I see such, I feel compelled to add that in PJ's post he was making reference to the how & why a system may work for some as being nonfactual or wishful thinking.
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Since you quoted his post when you made yours, you certainly did know whose post it would follow. Your nose is growing, Rick (no last name)

Let me refresh your memory on something. He did the exact same thing with something you strongly believe in and use (infrequently since you live on the forum instead of a pool table) and that would be TOI. That didn't make sense to you but it's OK for CTE, 90/90, pivoting, tuck & roll, etc. correct? Hypocrisy at it's finest.

(snipped the remainder of the far out Twilight Zone part about flat and round Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi6wNGwd84g)
 
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I've been shooting since the 70's and learned the traditional ways of aiming and stroking like many others here on AZ.

I learned the 90/90 system and much to my dismay I starting pocketing balls.

first of all, I don't know this system, so I cannot comment on it.

However, if you have been playing since the 70's, wouldn't you already know how to efficiently pocket balls?
 
I have been learning the 90/90 aiming system that Ron Vitello teaches. Spidey has put out alot of good info about this and I would like to hear other objective opinions and ideas from other users. I ask that you keep your responses about the system and not start a flame war because this is another pivot based aiming thread.

If you don't use the system feel free to post and learn. Just keep your message on subject.

I learned to use 90/90 from Ron.

It really works well.
Good system.

I found better things for my game.

randyg
 
I learned to use 90/90 from Ron.

It really works well.
Good system.

I found better things for my game.

randyg

How in the hell do you and Scott Lee always find a way to put a positive spin on everything? Always nice to read your take on things.
Tommy
 
All the systems go out the window when you add inside english or a large amount of any sidespin for that matter. Why don't you guys just visualize the ball going in the hole when the tip of your cue is paused at the cue ball. Also practice 6 hours a day and it will all come together for you. Aiming system DVDs are a bunch of $hit.

100% wrong. 90/90 and CTE both provide a baseline center ball shot line. From there it's easy to adjust for spin. I use Backhand English and it works great.

No one has said using aiming systems negates practice. Take two players though and have them both practice 6 hours a day and the one who uses an aiming system will be a much better player in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpt_9z4tNz0
 
I don't use 90/90 but it is good.

Here you have pictures and explanations of how the original 90/90 system should be done, by Ron Vitello:

http://9090aiming.com/page3/index.html

From the link:

"Ranging from a few degrees to 1/2 ball cut as long as it is more than 2 diamonds apart. In some cases, the 90-90 can also be used to cut typical 90-HALF shots for longer shots.

If the CB-OB are less than 2-diamonds apart, a typical 90-90 shot could move to 90-HALF.

90/90 can be shot 85-90% of the time."

My experience with DD aiming that I often use along with CP2CP and shifting to CCB aiming.

After pivoting to the center CB, the 90-HALF increases the angle by sending the CB farther to the outside of the OB than the 90-90 when the separation is less than 2 diamonds. This makes sense to me even for DD aiming.

For me, The separation between the OB and CB makes a difference in the resulting cut angle. A degree or 2 less for each diamond separation for the same geometric cut angle causing me to aim thinner to compensate.

At a 1/4" separation aiming CP2CP is dead on geometrically, but progressively get less - 30 degrees at 1/4" becomes ~20 degrees at 4 diamond/s separation.

Is this because of CIT, speed, dirty cloth and dirty balls or all of the above?

Be well
 
I used it.. The system does work but was to mechanical to me. I didn't like all the movement. I think when your playing at your highest level all you can think about is the ball going in the hole and where you want the cue ball to end up... I couldn't get this to become second nature and honestly I make balls pretty darn good without so it wasn't necessary.
 
I want to know what you taught Henry Brodt. I don't think he hit a pocket point all weekend.

Henry spent most of his time of his three pre-shot routines and his stroke.
We also put a lot of time into speed control.

Henry has his own aiming system.

He is a great Student, Gentleman and Champion.

randyg
 
Henry spent most of his time of his three pre-shot routines and his stroke.
We also put a lot of time into speed control.

Henry has his own aiming system.

He is a great Student, Gentleman and Champion.

randyg

Yes he is. His finals match should be on youtube, a thing of beauty to watch.
 
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