Who's Who?

Danny Kuykendal said:
Jimmy, How are things. Glad to hear from you.
I'm hesitant to ask you much for fear that I may give away something you don't want someone else to know.

I hope you're doing well.

Danny
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I'm not sure what you might be talking about but, if it's that rash, it's call cleared up now! :eek:
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
That's ok Steve, at least I know who I'm speaking with.
Danny
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I'm not sure you do, lol. There seems to be Steve Ellis (me) and a Steve L. (Beetle) and I think your original post was addressed to me because of the resemblance betwee Ellis & Lillis. Then Beetle saw the second post and thought it was addressed to him and responded.
So you see knowing real names only breeds confusion, especially when they are as common as "Steve". It is a curse, one soccer team I played on had 4 or 5 Steve's on the field at once, talk about confusion. Ha-ha.
At any rate, rest assured that though I once played in a tournament at your room, you never played me. At 61 I'm still waiting to hit my stride, when I hit my stride, then I'll play you. lol.
 
JoeW said:
1.It is a well known fact that people who are anonymous are much more likely to be brutal and cruel. KKK comes to mind among many other examples that you too can think of. I use the KKK as an example that everyone knows. If you identify yourself you feel more responsible for what you post because your name and your reputation are tied to what you write.

2.If I am talking to some fellow at a bar and he won't give his name or says, "just call me knucklehead 003." I have little to no respect for anything he might say because he is not willing to accept responsibility for what he says.

3.If I were to meet you at some event and you Id yourself as Knucklhead003 I doubt that I would believe you without better evidence. For instance I met Williebetmore and only believed that he was the real person he says he is because I happened to see his photo and corresponded with him - on the net - before I met him.

4.In general, I have little to no respect for anyone or anything they say under a pseudonym. Why is this guy hiding? Is he outrunning the law for whatever reason? If so, I don't want to know him or be seen with him.

5.Anyone who needs to hustle for a living earns my pity but not my respect.

To those who think that content is more important than source I would suggest that they do not live in the real world or are naive about how the world really works.

I think that people hide behind a pseudonym because they like the idea that they can role play and be anyone they choose to be. I guess there are places for that like a game of Dungeons and Dragons or similar places. Much of what I read on AZB I simply ignore as gamesmanship. Real discussions by real people are of interest.

I have been on the net since before there was a net (ran a bbs for cops) and have worked with well over 5,000 incarcerated felons and many more convicted felons in my career. Many of the people I have worked with would be among those who have committed the worst of crimes. Many do not like me for various reasons. Anyone who seriously wants to find you and find out about you can. It is as simple as that. The ability to trace people has been available long before the net came into existence.

Just one man's opinion and now some of you know how you are perceived by some of us.

If you think that real names do not matter review the posts by five people who use their real name versus five people who use some silly name and read for content, style, clarity, and social responsibility. The differences are glaring.
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Though Joe, when all is said and done, most people using a nom-de-plume are not hiding behind it, they just like it. I consider mine a way of shouting out my fondness for Kurt Vonnegut's writing. I never attack anybody and have no reason to hide, but it just isn't important that anybody know i'm Steve Ellis. The rare people I have had little tiffs with know who I am, so big deal.
I do think the content is more important than who is saying it. With rare exceptions on this board of genuine experts, the name just is of no importance. For instance, I'm nobody in the pool world, maybe even nobody in the world; but I still might have a nugget to drop here now and again, my name will have no bearing at all on the value, or lack thereof, of that nugget. Whereas, if Scott Lee or Bob Jewett has something to say their name lends a certain amount of credibility to what they say and it might be important that it is known.
Some people just like more privacy than you or I, in real life and online, I for one don't think any the less of their opinions or them for it.
JMHO.
 
Jimk said:
... this is a light forum with a very minimum amount of in depth discussion...
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And that is a pretty damn good summation of ALL internet forums. They're a diversion with not very much bearing on real life.
 
Danny K said:
Again, WHO'S WHO?
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Not really, it's not a pool thing, it's some things:
1. It's a forum thing.... goto any of the most popular forums on the net, and most will operate this way. No one should really need to use their first name, last name and what have you.
2. Using real names is not practical in the program world. How many Alan Hopkins are there? A bunch. Sure, i know that u want 2 say that when a person registers, they should output their real name in the posts.... again the string occurs again, it can go on and on.
3. Administrators do have the option do make it happen, but why do that? See next.
4. (Kinda an addition to answer 2) Using real names can also have it's negative impact on multiple accounts. Moreover, if someone were to 'hijack' the name itself, one can make bad reps for a real person.

My 2 cents
 
They're EVERYWHERE

I don't use my real name because I'm hiding from someone....
Doug
( more than ONE )



* And I wear a tinfoil hat..... dammit !



Edited to add: tinfoil 'lined' :)






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Danny,
I dont use my name on here because I am very knowledgeable on a computer. All I really would need is a full name and location to find out way to much. That is not what I do I have just done it on myself to see whats out there. Most people would be surprised at what is called public info, and how easy it is to get. I looked up my best freind a few years ago and actully got a map to his house from a state web site. That being said I do sign my name to people that I talk to in pm's, and have done business with some on here and they know who I am, but as far as just putting it out there, not me. Sorry.
 
Good answer,
signed, Steve #14.

catscradle said:
Though Joe, when all is said and done, most people using a nom-de-plume are not hiding behind it, they just like it. I consider mine a way of shouting out my fondness for Kurt Vonnegut's writing. I never attack anybody and have no reason to hide, but it just isn't important that anybody know i'm Steve Ellis. The rare people I have had little tiffs with know who I am, so big deal.
I do think the content is more important than who is saying it. With rare exceptions on this board of genuine experts, the name just is of no importance. For instance, I'm nobody in the pool world, maybe even nobody in the world; but I still might have a nugget to drop here now and again, my name will have no bearing at all on the value, or lack thereof, of that nugget. Whereas, if Scott Lee or Bob Jewett has something to say their name lends a certain amount of credibility to what they say and it might be important that it is known.
Some people just like more privacy than you or I, in real life and online, I for one don't think any the less of their opinions or them for it.
JMHO.
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I started out not giving my name because I was afraid to but I've provided a profile such that anybody could find out that my name is Jim Sward.

I know that there people that participate in this forum that have a pretty high profile and would be hounded if the general public knew who they were. So, there are valid reasons, other than paranoia, to remain anonymous.

I figure that if I get to know somebody pretty well through their posts and want to hook up with them I can pm and ask who they are. I've done that a few times to guys that are geographically close and have made some friends.
 
Steve, looking forward to the day you hit your stride. You know where I am.
Kurt Vonnegut is one of a thousand great authors. Who else do you read?
Danny
 
JoeW said:
1.It is a well known fact that people who are anonymous are much more likely to be brutal and cruel. KKK comes to mind among many other examples that you too can think of. I use the KKK as an example that everyone knows. If you identify yourself you feel more responsible for what you post because your name and your reputation are tied to what you write.

2.If I am talking to some fellow at a bar and he won't give his name or says, "just call me knucklehead 003." I have little to no respect for anything he might say because he is not willing to accept responsibility for what he says.

3.If I were to meet you at some event and you Id yourself as Knucklhead003 I doubt that I would believe you without better evidence. For instance I met Williebetmore and only believed that he was the real person he says he is because I happened to see his photo and corresponded with him - on the net - before I met him.

4.In general, I have little to no respect for anyone or anything they say under a pseudonym. Why is this guy hiding? Is he outrunning the law for whatever reason? If so, I don't want to know him or be seen with him.

5.Anyone who needs to hustle for a living earns my pity but not my respect.

To those who think that content is more important than source I would suggest that they do not live in the real world or are naive about how the world really works.

I think that people hide behind a pseudonym because they like the idea that they can role play and be anyone they choose to be. I guess there are places for that like a game of Dungeons and Dragons or similar places. Much of what I read on AZB I simply ignore as gamesmanship. Real discussions by real people are of interest.

I have been on the net since before there was a net (ran a bbs for cops) and have worked with well over 5,000 incarcerated felons and many more convicted felons in my career. Many of the people I have worked with would be among those who have committed the worst of crimes. Many do not like me for various reasons. Anyone who seriously wants to find you and find out about you can. It is as simple as that. The ability to trace people has been available long before the net came into existence.

Just one man's opinion and now some of you know how you are perceived by some of us.

If you think that real names do not matter review the posts by five people who use their real name versus five people who use some silly name and read for content, style, clarity, and social responsibility. The differences are glaring.
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I agree with all this, but the fact is that screen names are a part of Internet reality. The thing is, that while I would prefer to be dealing with the type of person who is willing to stand by what they post, under their real name, the constructed names, selected avatars, and all the crap people choose to put at the end of their posts are pretty revealing anyway, perhaps more so than a name.

People are choosing how they want to portray themselves and how they think they will be perceived by the rest of the community. All those little adornments (and their posts) tell you a lot. So when you see the odd name, or the stupid, occasionally tasteless avatar or animation, you can pretty much figure out what you need to know about a forum member.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
People are choosing how they want to portray themselves and how they think they will be perceived by the rest of the community. All those little adornments (and their posts) tell you a lot. So when you see the odd name, or the stupid, occasionally tasteless avatar or animation, you can pretty much figure out what you need to know about a forum member.

Lou Figueroa
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Grrrrrrr.....








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My name is also Steve.
Danny, I rememmber you from the Big John days. one eye dave and window washer craig. Been living in Europe for 17 years now. I've even played ina few of your handicap tourny's that Wayne was running. The last time was probably close to ten years ago. I used to come and visit my friend Surfer Mark that played in your ph everyday,died around ten years ago. I was there this last April for a day, saw Vince and Wayne and had to run. You recomemded a book to me about the Romans which I read. GAIUS Marius(sp)::::::
Take care and the next time I fly over the big pond I will drop in!!!

no-sho = who has no problem with incognito...
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
Steve, looking forward to the day you hit your stride. You know where I am.
Kurt Vonnegut is one of a thousand great authors. Who else do you read?
Danny
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Danny,
It is more like who I don't read. I read a lot, a whole lot. I like Sci-fi, Jerry Pournelle & Larry Nevin come to mind, historical novels a lot(especially civil war, "The Black Flower" was absolutely great), classics now and again (Doestoevsky, spelling?), mysteries now and again. Mostly I like to read things that are pure escapism or will hopefully give me insight into my fellow man, the way they've thought over the ages. That's why I like history, after all, despite all the gadgets we have today, we're still wired the same way medieval man was.

I don't really think too much about who the authors are, except now and again when somebody like Vonnegut who thinks in the same bizarre way I sometimes do comes along.

More than you wanted to know, right?

If I ever am to play you it might be before I hit "my stride", I'm getting kind of long in the tooth waiting for that stride. I will try to look you up if I ever get out west again, you sound like a nice guy.
Steve.
 
Steve, Pleasure to hear from you. Yeah I remember those days, One Eyed
Dave was quite a player when he was on. Big Johns burned to the ground (you probably heard) with Steve Ayotte sleeping upstairs. Everyone wondered about arson, but nothing ever proven.
I really enjoyed practicing there on those Anniversary tables. My tables are somewhat modeled after them.
You know, if I knew your last name maybe I could put a face with whom I'm speaking.
I play a ring game now of rotation continuous, a game I created, with Ramin (Vince) and Tom Pelan, who is another very good player. Ramin's game has gone sky high probably since you've seen him.
Wayne is still running tournaments (13 years now).
Yeah, that series of books, based on Rome before and during the Julius Caesar days were great reads. There are seven in the series.
Stop in next time your this side of the pond!

Danny
 
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