Who's Who?

1.It is a well known fact that people who are anonymous are much more likely to be brutal and cruel. KKK comes to mind among many other examples that you too can think of. I use the KKK as an example that everyone knows. If you identify yourself you feel more responsible for what you post because your name and your reputation are tied to what you write.

2.If I am talking to some fellow at a bar and he won't give his name or says, "just call me knucklehead 003." I have little to no respect for anything he might say because he is not willing to accept responsibility for what he says.

3.If I were to meet you at some event and you Id yourself as Knucklhead003 I doubt that I would believe you without better evidence. For instance I met Williebetmore and only believed that he was the real person he says he is because I happened to see his photo and corresponded with him - on the net - before I met him.

4.In general, I have little to no respect for anyone or anything they say under a pseudonym. Why is this guy hiding? Is he outrunning the law for whatever reason? If so, I don't want to know him or be seen with him.

5.Anyone who needs to hustle for a living earns my pity but not my respect.

To those who think that content is more important than source I would suggest that they do not live in the real world or are naive about how the world really works.

I think that people hide behind a pseudonym because they like the idea that they can role play and be anyone they choose to be. I guess there are places for that like a game of Dungeons and Dragons or similar places. Much of what I read on AZB I simply ignore as gamesmanship. Real discussions by real people are of interest.

I have been on the net since before there was a net (ran a bbs for cops) and have worked with well over 5,000 incarcerated felons and many more convicted felons in my career. Many of the people I have worked with would be among those who have committed the worst of crimes. Many do not like me for various reasons. Anyone who seriously wants to find you and find out about you can. It is as simple as that. The ability to trace people has been available long before the net came into existence.

Just one man's opinion and now some of you know how you are perceived by some of us.

If you think that real names do not matter review the posts by five people who use their real name versus five people who use some silly name and read for content, style, clarity, and social responsibility. The differences are glaring.
 
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I do not believe in plastering my real name all over the internet, so I go by Chris Tate.

So, if you see a guy named Chris Tate come into your room and shoots really good, well, that's me. If he is dogging and sitting in the chair a lot, well, that's not me then. That's how you can tell the real Chris Tate from the other one.

Chris (Tate)
 
Your assumption that people acting under pseudonyms have something to hide is outdated. This is a public forum available to anyone in the world. We're not having a conversation at the local poolroom with friends.

Have you ever said when you were going on a vacation on this site? Maybe you've said, "I'm going to the DCC this year...wooooot". If so, you've exposed your home to a greater risk of burglary. Disagree if you like, but even a dumb criminal can figure this stuff out. No PhD required.

JoeW said:
1.It is a well known fact that people who are anonymous are much more likely to be brutal and cruel. KKK comes to mind among many other examples that you too can think of. I use the KKK as an example that everyone knows. If you identify yourself you feel more responsible for what you post because your name and your reputation are tied to what you write.

2.If I am talking to some fellow at a bar and he won't give his name or says, "just call me knucklehead 003." I have little to no respect for anything he might say because he is not willing to accept responsibility for what he says.

3.If I were to meet you at some event and you Id yourself as Knucklhead003 I doubt that I would believe you without better evidence. For instance I met Williebetmore and only believed that he was the real person he says he is because I happened to see his photo and corresponded with him - on the net - before I met him.

4.In general, I have little to no respect for anyone or anything they say under a pseudonym. Why is this guy hiding? Is he outrunning the law for whatever reason? If so, I don't want to know him or be seen with him.

5.Anyone who needs to hustle for a living earns my pity but not my respect.

To those who think that content is more important than source I would suggest that they do not live in the real world or are naive about how the world really works.

I think that people hide behind a pseudonym because they like the idea that they can role play and be anyone they choose to be. I guess there are places for that like a game of Dungeons and Dragons or similar places. Much of what I read on AZB I simply ignore as gamesmanship. Real discussions by real people are of interest.

I have been on the net since before there was a net (ran a bbs for cops) and have worked with well over 5,000 incarcerated felons and many more convicted felons in my career. Many of the people I have worked with would be among those who have committed the worst of crimes. Many do not like me for various reasons. Anyone who seriously wants to find you and find out about you can. It is as simple as that. The ability to trace people has been available long before the net came into existence.

Just one man's opinion and now some of you know how you are perceived by some of us.
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Franky said, "Your assumption that people acting under pseudonyms have something to hide is outdated. This is a public forum available to anyone in the world. We're not having a conversation at the local poolroom with friends.

Have you ever said when you were going on a vacation on this site? Maybe you've said, "I'm going to the DCC this year...wooooot". If so, you've exposed your home to a greater risk of burglary. Disagree if you like, but even a dumb criminal can figure this stuff out. No PhD required."

Good point about going on vacation. It is good to be careful in the real world. You should also not give your SSN to anyone and there are many other reasons to be careful. The internet is a public forum and is like a telephone book. Much about you is or can be known very easily by some people who would want to know these things.

My ideas are not outdated. The facts are as stated. Anonymous people are far too often cruel. Interestingly, the tendency occurs among "normal" people and that is probably why many fell into Hitler's trap. Under the guise of the crowd and like minded people parts of humanity did inhuman things. Stanley Milgrim's studies unequivocally demonstrated that under the right circumstance most of us would do horrible things we would never dream that we would do. Look at some of the idiotic behavior seen at public sporting events where people can hide in a crowd of like minded peers and you will see some extremely stupid behavior.

Identifying yourself and assuming responsibility for your words and actions is part of being civilized. I strongly recommend that anyone who will not identify themselves to you is someone to be discounted and avoided.
 
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Danny Kuykendal said:
I'm a little concerned at the fact that I don't know who I'm talking to on this forum. I play pedal steel guitar and on the Steel Guitar Forum you always know who you're talking to. Even if an nickname is used the person's real name is listed under the nickname.

Why? Is it a pool thing? Do pool players enjoy being incognito?
I personally believe this is one of the reasons pool has achieved it's seedy reputation, because players are always doing something hidden (for lack of a better word).

I go to the player profile and I still don't get a name. Maybe this is an insidious problem particular to pool players? Is giving out your name going to spoil some action?

In my pool room everything is above board. All players know each other, don't hustle any unsuspecting people, and (mostly) behave like gentlemen.
Rudolfo Luat came into my room 10 years ago looking for a game, and I told everyone who he was, like I do all hustlers and players, and he only said, "I understand, you're protecting your customers". He was nice about it. Unlike some players I've run into that get miffed that I "spoiled their action".

Thing is, even if he didn't understand, I would have spoiled his action. And that's one reason I don't get a lot of hustlers coming through Danny K's.

Believe me, we have some really good players who play at my place, but they don't need to hustle, and they understand it doesn't work at Danny K's.

Again, WHO'S WHO?


Danny K
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Dan, this is a light forum with a very minimum amount of in depth discussion. Brother, me thinks thou hast stuck thy foot in the dooky!! Love, Jimmy K.
 
Jimmy M. said:
Hi Danny. I've been using this very cryptic username for a while on this site. I try to keep my identity a secret but, fine, just this once, and only because we know each other, I'll reveal my true identity. I'm Jimmy Mendoza. :)
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No you're not. You're Jay Helfert!
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
I'm a little concerned at the fact that I don't know who I'm talking to on this forum. I play pedal steel guitar and on the Steel Guitar Forum you always know who you're talking to. Even if an nickname is used the person's real name is listed under the nickname.

Why? Is it a pool thing? Do pool players enjoy being incognito?
I personally believe this is one of the reasons pool has achieved it's seedy reputation, because players are always doing something hidden (for lack of a better word).

I go to the player profile and I still don't get a name. Maybe this is an insidious problem particular to pool players? Is giving out your name going to spoil some action?

In my pool room everything is above board. All players know each other, don't hustle any unsuspecting people, and (mostly) behave like gentlemen.
Rudolfo Luat came into my room 10 years ago looking for a game, and I told everyone who he was, like I do all hustlers and players, and he only said, "I understand, you're protecting your customers". He was nice about it. Unlike some players I've run into that get miffed that I "spoiled their action".

Thing is, even if he didn't understand, I would have spoiled his action. And that's one reason I don't get a lot of hustlers coming through Danny K's.

Believe me, we have some really good players who play at my place, but they don't need to hustle, and they understand it doesn't work at Danny K's.

Again, WHO'S WHO?


Danny K
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I must admit, Danny K's is the best place I've played in southern California. No woofing or bs. Nice clientel. Good tables, good food.
 
Havn't read the thread so forgive me if I'm redundant. I'm responding to the title.

"WHO's WHO" is of no consequence in the way that I interpret or respond to a post. We all put our drawers on pretty much the same way, don't we??
 
JoeW said:
Identifying yourself and assuming responsibility for your words and actions is part of being civilized. I strongly recommend that anyone who will not identify themselves to you is someone to be discounted and avoided.
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Wow! I think I'll just crawl in a hole and die! I didn't realize that people on here thought so much about wanting to know other posters' identity. It never really made much of a difference to me what the posters on here called themselves. I guess I'm just too tolerant.

My handle is simply the nickname that was given to me long ago. So for now, just call me 8ballEinstein.
 
Joe W. So right you are. It's a matter of being resposible for who you are and what you do. I brought the subject up because I'm accustomed to being up front with everyone I know. I have no reason to hide anything and see no reason why they would want to. I understand the thing about privacy on the web and protectiing your identity, but is that really it?

Danny
 
Jimmy, How are things. Glad to hear from you.
I'm hesitant to ask you much for fear that I may give away something you don't want someone else to know.

I hope you're doing well.

Danny
 
One of the main reasons that people use pseudonyms is because that is the standard practice for internet message boards. I don't really care if anyone on here know my name or not, but when I signed up on this message board, way back in the day, it didn't cross my mind to use my real name. I just thought of some goofy name and chose it.

I wouldn't mind using my real name now, but it's too late. I'm already known by DeadPoked instead of Roy Payton. I'm not known in the pool community. I am still capable of sneaking up on many people and going broke.
 
Mike B. Great to hear from you. I was speaking with some players from the Hesperia area and we talked about your pool room opening in the late 80s and me selling you cues and all. Your folks still live outside Reno? Can't remember the name of that city. Hope to see you when your down this way. Make sure you let me know when you're coming down.
Danny
 
Sundown. I'm currently buying Richard out. Glad You're trying retail. If you ever have any questions give me a call. I became burnt out in retailing pool tables, but I still could probably help with some advice, if you need it.
Danny
 
JimK, Yeah I stepped in a pile of dog poop, but sometimes these things can come to some good. Why not go out on a limb now and then?
By the way, I won another hundred in the ring game at Danny K's today, playing rotation continuous, of course. Had a run of 22.

Danny
 
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