Why are some cue makers so rude and have bad attitudes?

Shafts

It never fails. The lowballers want the most for the least.
Raise your repair price.




All this drama over a transaction that didn't happen when the OP could of just ordered one in from Schmelke for 65.00 new and bypassed this drama queen bullshit.
But then again Schmelke doesn't do low ballers either :p

And for all we know the shaft might be for a cue the OP is wanting to flip.
 
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I just wanted to add that the cue maker that offered to build me a shaft (for a certain price) had a 0 itrader, so I was asking him a few little questions, like how long he has been making cues, and if he was known in his area (maybe these were bad questions to ask), and after he gives me some info about himself, he basically called the deal off (took back the offer that he made me). I just thought that he had a really bad attitude. What I hate the worse is when people try to sound nice and act professional, but you can tell that they are actually being pretty nasty. I do not know. Maybe I am just crazy. Sorry.

I do not consider myself to be one of the nasty cuemakers. But your questions show you have doubt in his abilities. In my earlier years I have handed people back their cue at tournaments after them asking me about ten times if I am sure removing their dent with steam would not warp their cue. My friend said I seemed rude, but after someone telling me ten times they have no confidence in me I was tired of trying to convince them I know what I am doing. If I had been the cuemaker you dealt with I would probably have suggested to you that you find someone local you have confidence in if I felt you had no confidence in me.
 
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YOUR LISTING ON THE WANTED FORUM STATES THE FOLLOWING;



I would like to find a really good quality shaft (maybe by a known cue maker) for no more then $50 shipped.

I do not want anything with a short stiff hitting taper.

I like nice very long tapered shafts

Please let me know if you have something you would be willing to sell.

Needs to be for a 3/8x10 flat faced joint.

I do not really care about weight, but if you know the mm of your shaft, that would be helpful.

I am not picky about needing a certain mm shaft, or a certain weight in the shafts, but I just like it to be of very good quality, straight (fairly), and have a nice long taper.

Please also let me know the lowest amount of money you would be willing to sell your shaft for (including the cost of shipping to, Louisville, KY, 40216).

Thanks for any offers.
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Honesty problem? You're asking for $50 INCLUDING the shipment.

I did not mean 'directly' from a known cue maker.
 
What you are claiming and what your want ad shows are different.
You also mentioned you were not particular about the MM.
Then you ambushed that guy with 12.3MM when?

The only reason that I made that request is because he is a cue maker, so he has the equipment to turn the shaft down to anything that a customer may ask for. It was only a request. He could have been nice about the way he replied back.
 
You can go onto Ebay and Find 3/8x10 shafts for, $50.00

But, almost all are low grains per inch, lots of runout on the grain and lots of Chruch Steeples and sugar grain or bleached wood.

Anyway, you usually find these at 13mm.

If someone brings in a 13 mm and asks me to do a turndown to 12.3mm, its, $30 for the first .25mm and then $5 for each .25mm and I only turn down 1/2mm at a time and then reseal and destress the wood and wait some time and then turn down again.

Anyway, each time I do a turndown, the customer is also getting a complete shaft treatment in the process,

They get a Sealed, Polished, waxed and Microburnished shaft polished out to 3000 grit, so there is an advantage to the turndown but there is a cost as well.

Just realize the good repairman are giving you something more than you started with for the money you are spending.

Hope this clear some of the questions, up.

Good Luck on your shaft search, but if you are just looking for a shaft to add to a butt and sell, then look on ebay and get one for, $40.00 plus shipping and call it good. They even come with a new LePro which costs, $10.00.

Mike 'acedonkeyace' Kennedy
 
At 12.3 mm :shrug:
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No, I think he told me the shaft would be 13mm. So I guess I was a moron for asking him if he could make it 12.3mm for me. Is it so hard to just be nice? If you do not like a request a potential customer is making, then tell them how much extra that would cost, instead of getting nasty with that person. I could have paid the 50 for the 13mm shaft, but I would not have been happy with it. I was just wanting some old decent quality shaft that had already been used all to hell, and turned down to a very low mm over the years. I was not asking for a new shaft.
 
Some offer to help someone and that someone tries to abuse the good deed.
Then whines about it.

I was not trying to abuse the offer. Was just making a friendly request. This thread had nothing to do with prices of shafts or anything else. The point of my thread was about some of the nasty attitudes that people have. Not just cue makers obviously.
 
It never fails. The lowballers want the most for the least.
Raise your repair prices.

I never low balled anyone on here. I just created a wtb ad, and set a price. People just get angry when I do not want or accept what they offer me for the price that I set.
 
All this drama over a transaction that didn't happen when the OP could of just ordered one in from Schmelke for 65.00 new and bypassed this drama queen bullshit.
But then again Schmelke doesn't do low ballers either :p

And for all we know the shaft might be for a cue the OP is wanting to flip.

No thanks to a shaft from them. By the way, I do not ask cue makers to lower their asking prices.
 
I do not consider myself to be one of the nasty cuemakers. But your questions show you have doubt in his abilities. In my earlier years I have handed people back their cue at tournaments after them asking me about ten times if I am sure removing their dent with steam would warp their cue. My friend said I seemed rude, but after someone telling me ten times they have no confidence in me I was tired of trying to convince them I know what I am doing. If I had been the cuemaker you dealt with I would probably have suggested to you that you find someone local you have confidence in if I felt you had no confidence in me.

Well, you are a well respected forum member on here, so I would have complete trust in your abilities. I have learned the hard way to only get my cue repaired by cue repairmen that I know have very satisfied customers. I am too poor to gamble on the unknowns out there.
 
Schmelke has some of the best wood in the country, why no thanks?

Oh, I did not know that. I just remember having a few of their cues back in the 90's, and I did not care for the ones that I had. I do not know. I just always thought they were a very cheaply made cue. I always thought they were like on par with a Mali for example (never liked Mali cues either). Maybe I did not know the good thing that I was missing.
 
You should have bought that shaft at 13mm and turn it down at 12.3mm and you would avoid all this mess:p:p:p:):p:p:p
With using glass or emery paper it would take you 5 minutes if you would put yourself on speedy mode:pLike in movies!
 
A cue maker on here offered to make me a shaft for a certain price (does the price matter?), and I kindly requested if he would make the shaft 12.3mm for me.

He then gets really nasty with me (accusing me of asking him to "bend over backwords for me").

I do not understand what the big deal is to make a request like that.

If a cue maker does not like the request that you are asking for, then I am sure there are much nicer ways to reply to that person.

He is not the 1st cue maker that I felt was rude and had a bad attitude (it has happened to me many times through email and over the phone in the past, but maybe I am just crazy in the way I get bothered too easily).

I just do not understand how these cue makers (with such bad attitudes) stay in business.
Yes . For $50, you should have jumped on it and not request it turned down some .7MM more . A good cue maker only takes down 1/4 to 1/2 of a MM and let it sit for weeks. Specially when you wanted A LONG TAPER.

I just wanted to add that the cue maker that offered to build me a shaft (for a certain price) had a 0 itrader, so I was asking him a few little questions, like how long he has been making cues, and if he was known in his area (maybe these were bad questions to ask), and after he gives me some info about himself, he basically called the deal off (took back the offer that he made me). I just thought that he had a really bad attitude. What I hate the worse is when people try to sound nice and act professional, but you can tell that they are actually being pretty nasty. I do not know. Maybe I am just crazy. Sorry.
He couldn't win with you. When he acted nice and professionally, you thought he was nasty.
But, you still asked him to turn the shaft down to 12.3MM.

Maybe I am just crazy. Sorry.
After checking some of the threads you started, it makes me wonder.

You lost on a great deal on a BRAND NEW SHAFT. But, you claim you can't afford to gamble on a no-named maker.
So, move on .
The maker who was nice enough to offer you a new shaft for $50 learned a valuable lesson, I hope.
 
For every great buyer out there you will have just as many that will jerk you around for as long as you let them! Especially if you sell stuff online and even more so if you sell on forums!! If sellers are relatively new they will tend to miss a lot of red flags that experienced sellers will latch on to and move on to greener pastures. There's so many DCP types online that until you sell or sell in quantity you won't get a grasp of just how rampant they are.
 
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