why are the british the best in the world?

Wait a minute, what happened to non-English 8ball, 9ball, 10ball, 14.1, one pocket and " the lot" you are supposed to have smashed? ( don't mention 3cush and straightrail)

Goto bed Ron, cocktail hour is over.

Cheery o

They are all the same game, which is a concept I've noticed americans struggle with before.

We've smashed the lot mate. No other nation comes close. Now that's been established, I'm looking for reasons why.

What's your theory on why we've produced more great cueists than every other nation combined? I guess in football terms, we are the brasil of cue sports.
 
Because the Brits are for all intents and purposes the only ones playing snooker extensively, because they don't dominate the other major cue and stick games (they certainly are not showing up over here and cleaning up at 14.1, one pocket, 9/10 ball, 3 cushion, etc.), and because other countries' participants focus on other activities to a much greater/proportionate extent. Looking at other hand-eye coordination activities that involve more extensive interest (golf and tennis come to mind), the Brits tend not to do even as well as the Australians, let alone Russia and a number of other European countries, And how do they do in other less popular hand-eye coordination activities such as ping pong?

I think you are fooling yourself in looking at a group of good, well-organized British professionals in a small pond (primarily snooker) and extrapolating that to dominance on an apples-to-apples comparison. The good snooker players are to be congratulated on their expertise but they don't dominate cue sports in any meaningful sense of the word outside Britain and the results of other hand-eye coordination activities suggest they would be in the lower echelons on a truly comparable, level playing field.

No one is 'cleaning up' at any other game so that one is irrelevant for a start. If there was money in them, we'd see a similar pattern, with our finest cueists dominating any game paying the most money.

Hand-eye...we're shit at practically everything except cue sports and darts. It's the physical stuff that goes with sport that rules us out.

There are now thousands of good european, chinese and indian cueists but only one has really joined the club. I'm not convinced the mass makes class argument is completely solid here. Ding was a freak from an early age yet has failed to progress to the upper echelons as expected, and has not broken the door down for fellow countrymen to follow. The chinese players that followed him are nowhere near the standard he is. Your small pond theory is unconvincing.
 
....Take American (mainstream) sports for example; the rest of the world cant touch the u.s.a. in these fields. Its not that they couldn't, but they aren't devoting the time and resources to develop top players like we do.

And snewkah is just like that. We don't try, so we don't succeed....

That's a lazy analogy and wide of the mark. Participation and success aren't always linked. Nobody in the States plays football (soccer) and yet they're ranked higher than half of the UK.

It's also not fair to say nobody can touch the US at any american sports. Take Ice Hockey as it's one of the few to feature in the Olympics (baseball World Series with only american teams? Ha! Calling the Superbowl winners World Champs? Oh dear...) and the UK has won half as many gold medals as the US.
 
I wouldn't jump to conclusion so fast
The Aussie Lindrum beat the crap out of Joe Davis in English billiards years ago. That forced Davis to run with his tail between his legs to start pro snooker which was considered easier than English billiards.
So if we use Conan/ Jon Stewart logic of "Who made Huckabee", Lindrum made Joe Davis who made snooker so Lindrum made snooker so an Aussie not a Brit is the best in snooker
:thumbup:

An aussie probably is the best snooker player. And if he wasn't such a tedious, mincing tit, he'd be preparing to bank $500k tomorrow, instead of flying back to Melbourne with his tail between his legs.
 
Well maybe your boys need to try their hand at the parlour games. Of course though, it is much better for them to be big fish in a small pond. So I guess that won't happen.


They are mere parlour games that nobody plays here. If they did, we both know who would win them.
 
They are all the same game, which is a concept I've noticed americans struggle with before.

We've smashed the lot mate. No other nation comes close. Now that's been established, I'm looking for reasons why.

What's your theory on why we've produced more great cueists than every other nation combined? I guess in football terms, we are the brasil of cue sports.


Typical British superiority complex that seems to have never faded since the 1600's or so. Truth is Americans have little use for most things British, bubble & squeak, brown sauce over terrible food, rotting teeth, boring snooker. Hell there was a group so tired of it several hundred years ago that they decided they didn't want to be a colony anymore & kicked their English asses back to that little piece of turf you still reside on. If you find Americans & pool so inferior then why come to a pool forum based in America? They do have snooker forums you know or are you banned on those as well and they won't let you infiltrate it again under another name as you have here Thaiger.
 
I include all cue sports, it's just snooker is the pinnacle and everyone would be playing it if they were good enough. But, as you mention it, daz is pretty much the best in the world at american pool, despite virtually no one in britain playing it. It would be akin to shane going to britain and monstering english 8 ball, and that ain't ever going to happen.

Who was the last Brit to be spoken of in the context of 3 cushion or balkline?
 
I have never heard of balkline and doubt there's a single serious 3 cushion player in the uk. See posts passim on why this is an irrelevant point.

Ahh, I see your strategy. Make an outlandish, unprovable claim (...best cueists in the world) and when presented with evidence said claim is potentially false, return with the old

Yeah, well except that...
 
Typical British superiority complex that seems to have never faded since the 1600's or so. Truth is Americans have little use for most things British, bubble & squeak, brown sauce over terrible food, rotting teeth, boring snooker. Hell there was a group so tired of it several hundred years ago that they decided they didn't want to be a colony anymore & kicked their English asses back to that little piece of turf you still reside on. If you find Americans & pool so inferior then why come to a pool forum based in America? They do have snooker forums you know or are you banned on those as well and they won't let you infiltrate it again under another name as you have here Thaiger.

You seem to know a lot for someone who's only been registered for a year...hmmm. Still, nice to see a post from you without mentioning how great you are. :rolleyes:
 
I know I'm feeding the troll, but what games are Brits better at? Snooker? Of course as hardly any snooker tables in US. E8? Same thing applys. Why, other than D. Appleton, aren't the Brits dominating 8 ball, 10 ball, one pocket etc etc? I suppose those games don't count according to thaiger Johnson
 
Ahh, I see your strategy. Make an outlandish, unprovable claim (...best cueists in the world) and when presented with evidence said claim is potentially false, return with the old

Yeah, well except that...

Except something so insignificant nobody bothers to play it? WTF are you on, man? :confused:

Quit grasping at straws.
 
Not quite, you did say all cue sports.

Your mouth is writing checks your mind can't cash.

I have never heard of balkline and doubt there's a single serious 3 cushion player in the uk. See posts passim on why this is an irrelevant point.
 
My choice of games for an all-round billiard championship would be snooker on a 6x12,
3-cushion billiards on a 5x10, and straight pool on a 4.5x9.

It would be interesting to see which nationalities would be most prevalent in the last 16.

Just in case the OP missed this
 
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