Why did the Sardo Rack disappear?

[Jude Rosenstock]

What happened to Carmine Sardo? What is he doing now?

He's probably racking his brains out, trying to come up with a new product.

 

[Chi2dxa]

I still have mine and it still works. A perfect rack everytime but since the Slug Doctor it is not worth the trouble of bending down to get it. The Slug Doctor gives the same results every single rack. Sardo had its day and now its gone but it is still a good product.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

I carry a magic rack in my case and ask if it can be used in every set I play. Tournament, league, gambling. A lot of people who have never used it, most of which are much better than me, say no. Then they check the rack until its perfect. It doesn't make any sense. If you want a perfect rack, use the magic rack and save us both the arguments. Maybe I'm just bad at racking, but I'll take the easier way out. If they run the set out on me, I'll shake their hand... but it has yet to happen.

All of the major online pool stores sell 2 magic racks for $10. And yes, that IS $10 more than using the one provided at the pool hall which may or may not be good. They also have cues on the wall but I like to bring my own as well.

Sir, you need to reply to my posts earlier in the day. We could have had some fun banter with this. I'll try to post later but probably won't get a chance until tomorrow.

 

[cleary]

Sir, you need to reply to my posts earlier in the day. We could have had some fun banter with this. I'll try to post later but probably won't get a chance until tomorrow.

HAHAHA I'll let work know I need to set aside some AZ time before noon.

 

[Scott Lee]

Clyde Ellis...I don't think this is true, as Meuller still has the Sardo Rack in their catalog, and had them for sale in their booth in Vegas last month.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I believe the year was 2007 when I went to Newport RI to attend a casting call for a reality TV show called “Everyday Edison”. There were several sponsors to the show and they were looking for new products to put on TV and show the inventor going from idea to market. This was before iPhone and I was pitching the Bank Shot Calculator in its original form. I had a conversation with a gentleman who told me his company had recently purchased the rights to the tight rack. I can’t remember his name or his company’s but that was about the last time I remember seeing it used on television. So I think the answer to the OP’s question is they were bought out and removed from the mainstream to make room for all the other racks that have flooded the market.

 

[Clyde Ellis]

I don't think a switch to 10-ball is inevitable. If I were to bet on it, I would bet on 9-ball with triangles for 10 more years, at least. I think the rack-de-jure will make an appearance in larger events (US Open, etc.) but regional tours will not change. I think there is a loud voice from a minority of players calling for change and a loud voice from a minority of players calling for tradition. The vast majority doesn't care and will likely default to what they already know - triangles.[/QUOTE

Exactly, they don't know about the Magic Rack YET. Tradition is another word for stubborn in my opinion. If tradition is to the point where people won't rack with something because it's different even though it works better than that is ridiculous.

Yo Deadstreoke,
Can I use this to pitch the Bank Shot Calculator?

 

[Clyde Ellis]

Clyde Ellis...I don't think this is true, as Meuller still has the Sardo Rack in their catalog, and had them for sale in their booth in Vegas last month.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I'm not stating it as fact but it's a straight up, true story. I called Lu in 04 trying to find a way to squeeze the BSC into the industry, looking for advise... I spoke with his wife at Sardo products. It didn't sound lucrative for them just recalling the conversation. I believe he sold it. I believe I was told the truth in RI. I know it's still for sale but there are no tight rack law suits going on that I'm aware of and Lu selling out may be why. I can't say with certainty but it makes sense and the RI story is on the square.

 

[chevybob20]

I stopped using my Sardo because it wore a hole through my cloth under the first 3 balls in the rack. This thing worked too well. I posted pics on here in the past.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

I had a discussion with a friend at the poolroom about this. He's one that's more inclined to try the newer products out there than I am and he said something I thought was rather interesting about Magic Rack.

As we were sitting there watching a league match, our teammate was slugged. It wasn't deliberate and since neither was truly a run-out type player, it had minimal impact on the outcome of the game but it was still annoying. Slugs suck and there's no two ways about that.

With that said, the Magic Rack obviously eliminates this. My point is I'd like a degree of randomness to still exist and that's when my friend pointed out to me that it still technically does. If the balls are racked randomly and they're not brand-spankin new balls, they're going to settle differently each time you rack. I haven't actually spent any real time testing this theory out but the idea is enough for me to believe Magic Rack might be worthwhile.

The downsides I mentioned prior in this thread still exist. On the pro level, and by that I mean major events where all equipment is brand new, the Magic Rack is going to lead to a lot of quick sets. However, on the amateur level and events in poolrooms, I think all it will do is speed along the racking process and eliminate slugs. There's still the cost-factor and even at $10, it's a little pricey when you have to provide for dozens, if not hundreds of tables. If ever the cost comes down to under $5, you may just see this thing used more often than not. In the end, it might just be worth it given the amount of time lost in tournaments due to racking on worn cloth and used balls. Poolrooms looking to get back tables so they can rent them out might look at this as a cost-saver.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

The downsides I mentioned prior in this thread still exist. On the pro level, and by that I mean major events where all equipment is brand new, the Magic Rack is going to lead to a lot of quick sets. However, on the amateur level and events in poolrooms, I think all it will do is speed along the racking process and eliminate slugs. There's still the cost-factor and even at $10, it's a little pricey when you have to provide for dozens, if not hundreds of tables...

Enter the Slug Doctor...:grin-square:

 

[cleary]

I had a discussion with a friend at the poolroom about this. He's one that's more inclined to try the newer products out there than I am and he said something I thought was rather interesting about Magic Rack.

As we were sitting there watching a league match, our teammate was slugged. It wasn't deliberate and since neither was truly a run-out type player, it had minimal impact on the outcome of the game but it was still annoying. Slugs suck and there's no two ways about that.

With that said, the Magic Rack obviously eliminates this. My point is I'd like a degree of randomness to still exist and that's when my friend pointed out to me that it still technically does. If the balls are racked randomly and they're not brand-spankin new balls, they're going to settle differently each time you rack. I haven't actually spent any real time testing this theory out but the idea is enough for me to believe Magic Rack might be worthwhile.

The downsides I mentioned prior in this thread still exist. On the pro level, and by that I mean major events where all equipment is brand new, the Magic Rack is going to lead to a lot of quick sets. However, on the amateur level and events in poolrooms, I think all it will do is speed along the racking process and eliminate slugs. There's still the cost-factor and even at $10, it's a little pricey when you have to provide for dozens, if not hundreds of tables. If ever the cost comes down to under $5, you may just see this thing used more often than not. In the end, it might just be worth it given the amount of time lost in tournaments due to racking on worn cloth and used balls. Poolrooms looking to get back tables so they can rent them out might look at this as a cost-saver.

I'm glad you are seeing the other side to this. I really think they are are a great product.

Most pool rooms have different sized balls, slightly dirty or whatever.. this all adds to the randomness. Not to mention, just throwing the balls on the rack will not always lock them all up perfectly. You gotta pinch them a little to get it real tight. Plus, you have to hit the break the exact speed and the 1 ball in the exact spot to get the same results. The harder you break, the harder it is.

In my opinion, there still is randomness with the magic rack, even at the pro level. The pros play 10ball. Watch a set of two pros using a magic rack and note the ball position after every break. You may see some patterns but its not the same puzzle every time. So you will see packages ran, but you will see them run with a triangle too.

Also, for $10, you get two racks. So they are $5 each. In bulk, you may even get a better deal. And you are right, this would cut maybe an hour or two out of a tournament if everyone used them.

 

[Fatboy]

Sardo is a gimmick, The $$$ they spent was great for the players, but the product wasnt any good. You can "tap in" the balls and get a perfect rack-if the balls are all the same size. In most ool rooms the balls are worn out, mixed up sets etc. when the balls are not new and you have different sizes then Sardo really has problems, even a magic rack wont work so good. At tounrmtnet the balls are new so its not a issue.