i think it was barry that did the wall of shame, while still chairman of WPBSA. ferguson removed it i think. either way, pool need it badly
Why do pool players need so much time?
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i think it was barry that did the wall of shame, while still chairman of WPBSA. ferguson removed it i think. either way, pool need it badly
Even though I scream SHOT CLOCKS i agree 100%. The thing is unless players have a prod they just believe they are entitled to all the time they want.
Not this guy
there are some bright lights. felix vogel, aj manas, bernie regelario.. maybe it's the filler effect (in felix' case i know it is)
I've been lucky enough to practice with some of the top guys in the snooker world and I believe it comes down to how they train. They train like it is a job - which it is. I've played with some very good UK pool players and they simply don't practice with the same level of intensity and discipline. The best snooker players sort of become robotic at the table. Hyper focus, in the zone...what ever you want to call it.
Very difficult to get into the zone and reach that robotic state of mind when you're up and down on shots, hesitating all the time.
Very difficult to get into the zone and reach that robotic state of mind when you're up and down on shots, hesitating all the time.
Pt109, those last 3 frames, it sure felt slow. I don't think Robertson does him self, any favours in those situations. Turning down stuff he we normally go for. And the wall of shame, very good idea
This is very true, you see this snooker and pool. It doesn't matter what speed you play. Patience is the key.
But especially, for those, faster than others.
Not sure I agree with this.
I agree with you on this. I have been saying this for a long time. Its the way its done that makes anyone, want to watch. Even some that wouldn't necessarily watch pool. You see this effect, in darts at the moment.
have you watched mohammed soufi play? he's very entertaining
anyway. matchroom, or predator for that matter, should have a special event with a short shot clock. see how it lands.
Darts is a great example. Maybe if pool had a Luke Littler, fun crowds, and matches that last under 15 minutes it could get the money that darts brings in.
Starts with the event organisers though, doesn't it? Players are good enough to do what ever and will follow where the money is. If the event allows slow play then there will be slow play.
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Playing at another hall after work while yuan8 open is on, couldn’t get time off to participate, so getting sometime in at another friends hall, then stopping by each day to support friends. Even with a shot clock on every table, some players feel like they stop time 
Interestingly, as an observation/personal opinion, some players take the same amount of time, but I think their persona, energy and style of play, make it seem or feel different to a spectator.
Interestingly, as an observation/personal opinion, some players take the same amount of time, but I think their persona, energy and style of play, make it seem or feel different to a spectator.
The simple reason that slow play persists in pool is that it has been tolerated for so long.
Among the minor events, the only events that I know of that penalize slow play are the Joss Tour events, at which Mike Zuglan rules with an iron hand, often getting in the face of slow players. A slow player who ignores slow play warnings at Turning Stone may be denied the right to sign up for the next Turning Stone, which has a 128-player limit and always has a long waiting list. There's a reason that every Joss Tour event runs on schedule.
At the majors, event producers and tournament officials deserve most of the blame when slow play becomes a problem.
Pool played slowly is not very exciting. Some event producers get it, others do not, but experience tells us this: "give a pool player all day to shoot and that's exactly how long they will take."
Among the minor events, the only events that I know of that penalize slow play are the Joss Tour events, at which Mike Zuglan rules with an iron hand, often getting in the face of slow players. A slow player who ignores slow play warnings at Turning Stone may be denied the right to sign up for the next Turning Stone, which has a 128-player limit and always has a long waiting list. There's a reason that every Joss Tour event runs on schedule.
At the majors, event producers and tournament officials deserve most of the blame when slow play becomes a problem.
Pool played slowly is not very exciting. Some event producers get it, others do not, but experience tells us this: "give a pool player all day to shoot and that's exactly how long they will take."
Yeah...Ronnie is top shelf and he's not alone up there as well.
Chess clocks. They put time pressure on every second of every inning.
Here is a match in a snooker ranking event that has a 15-second shot clock going to 10 seconds in the last half of the frame. In spite of the time pressure, and some noise, the player still manages to play pretty well.
That's the whole match -- it's a race to 1.
The OP video seems to have been taken down on FleeceBunk.
Here is a match in a snooker ranking event that has a 15-second shot clock going to 10 seconds in the last half of the frame. In spite of the time pressure, and some noise, the player still manages to play pretty well.
That's the whole match -- it's a race to 1.
The OP video seems to have been taken down on FleeceBunk.
And even further down the chain, I’m often envious of the dart league players who are done with all their matches while our pool league play has “just” started.
Matchroom runs the main darts pro format (pdc) so I have confidence they can transfer some of that skill to pool.