Why Does Everyone Hate Cuetec!

"most people" refers to those that dislike Cuetec cues. Not that difficult to figure out, really.

So which posters in this thread do you feel fit into the categories of a, b, and/or c that you defined below? :poke:

Most people are overly concerned with the lack of "snob appeal".
Most people put them down because:
a) They don't cost a lot of $$
b) They aren't "custom".
c) They aren't skilled enough to realize just how good the Cuetec cues play.

I am curious which category you feel I fit into, or maybe I'm one of those rare people who simply owned a Cuetec and hated the way it played compared to other cues at or below its 100 dollar price point. :shrug:
 
I find it funny that we all complain about no money in the sport and yet when you have a company like Cuetec that has POURED money into it consistently for 20 years they get lambasted by the same people that complain about pool's sorry state.

It's a pool cue. It's a maple pool cue covered with graphite bonded around the shafts. It works just as any other pool cue does to apply spin to the ball.

Earl Strickland is an asshole. J-S Sales and Cuetec supported him through all of his televised temper tantrums as well as being the cue that he was using when he won most of his world championships and US Opens and the Camel Pro Tour in 1999. When you find Earl's name on the winner list for the 17 YEARS that he was sponsored by them then you can put CUETEC right beside it.

Allison Fisher has won ALL of her WPBA and World Championship and other Championships in pool using a Cuetec.

Lots of very good players in the world use Cuetec cues. I have been POUNDED on for the money in long sessions by people using Cuetec cues. Being a snob I could not stand it.

Cuetec makes a variety of shaft tapers and contrary to popular belief you can retaper a Cuetec shaft and also sand it. You can change the ferrule, change the tip, rewrap it, whatever makes you happy, just as you would do with ANY other cue you play with if you wanted to.

I personally don't like the "feel" of most Cuetecs I have played with. I have however played very well with some of them and really have no qualms about picking up a Cuetec to play with if I need to.

I would bet though that if you sent a whole bunch of so-called normal cues and some Cuetecs to an independent lab and had them tested on their performance properties that the Cuetecs would be right up there on the performance scale.
 
I recently had the need for a cheap "trunk cue"...Luckily, the Hall I go to lets you try cues before you pay...I wanted cue & case with a few extras to run under $100. A cue you wouldn't cry about if it it got stolen. I shot with several cues, including cuetec. I went for a "Viper"...yeah, made in China....I think. Strictly my feel...I just couldn't get around the fiberglass...
 
cuetec -maybe because it's production graphite cue,if you like the feel of that play with one!
 
Why does everyone hate Cuetecs? Because they can!

I bought one to keep in my car. When you live in Arizona, you don't want to leave a good cue in the heat. I ended up giving it away. Frankly, I would jump over a pit of free Cuetecs to pay money for a wood Dufferin house cue if those were my only choices. The thing just played like a stump! I've tried several since then (most of the cues in my poolhall are CT's), but they kind of remind me of a cross between the old hollow fiberglass St. Croix cue sticks in the seventies that were like using a fishing pole, and an aluminum cue with that nasty "thunking" sound.

I have a lot of respect for Janet S. and her crew. They have offered a lot to the game in sponsorship and have been around for a lot of years. They have backed a couple of my favorite players. Hell, they even have Travis Trotter waiting in the wings to become the next Earl (but nicer and hedont Brake cuesand shaftts becuz hedont wanna be like Url ;))!

The bottom line, though, is they make production cues that have to appeal to a wide market, much like Meucci, Viking, etc. (who could all make great cues if that was the market they chose to compete in), so they have to make a cue that has tons of durability, can stand up to the elements, has a bit of eye appeal, is cost effective for people that range from once every five year bangers, to poolhalls using them daily for house cues. They have also found that plastics and graphite are less susceptible to variation than organic materials in the manufacturing process (plastic, fiberglass, or graphite that is molded or extruded is much more consistent than boards cut out of trees). They try to stay on the cutting edge of technology, and frankly, they know what it takes to grow and compete in the market.

I have never heard anyone say that their CT is nine months overdue from the factory. You don't have to get on a waiting list, or put down a deposit on a cue you might not have in your possession for years. They run like a business, not a collection of artists or craftsmen. They have set in stone schedules, and management to b*tch at if the customer service person isn't giving you the right answers.

All these things are reasons to love Cuetec...

I still hate them, though! In my mind, plastic will never replace wood for feel and beauty (and I was a plastic salesman for over twenty years!). I like the interface between myself and cuemakers. I even somehow convince myself that I actually had a part in the creation of the cue. I'm not wealthy in any stretch of the imagination, but I'm willing to save my hard earned shekels to be able to afford a custom cue, even if it's only a plain jane. I appreciate art and functional beauty, not just a tool that works. I learned a long time ago that there is usually a reason that something is more expensive, whether it's based on materials used, labor involved, craftsmanship, originality, or desirability (yeah, I do realize this is not always the case, but I think across the board, it's generally the norm).

I am glad we have diversity in the world! I'm glad that we have garbagemen, proctologists, and ditch diggers. I know people that have these kinds of jobs that just love them and they provide absolutely NECESSARY services. I'm just glad I'm not one of them. I bet a lot of people are glad they aren't salesmen, but I have always enjoyed being one.

Thank God for the Cuetec lovers that help keep our game alive!!! Just pass me that old wooden sneaky pete...

Steve
 
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Ok, here is my piece. Don't make that face at me lol.

I say cuetec or scorpion suck big time, because of this. If you pic up a cuetec or a scorpion, their shafts feel synthetic. It feels like it is plastic. If feels like crap! Maybe it is just a personal preference thing, but I'd pick a $100 schmelke way before I pay $300 for a cuetec. (Yes, I do have a $100 schmelke as my main shooter :embarrassed2:) When you slide/glide the cuetec/scorpion through your bridge, it feels smooth, but it also feel as if you hit too hard with it, it will crack and shatter right in your hands. It feels light and you cannot feel the solid feel like a maple shaft. Comparing the hit my a mcdermott or a viking when I test out a few cues, the cuetec was thrown to the sde. Scorpions feel more like plastic (Model plastic) than anything else. There, take that frown off your face and say it with me, "No Cuetec." One of my friends thought cuetec was the nutz because it is always advertised on ESPN, but when he picked up a GW that he has now, he said forget about the cuetec. Why did your think Earl played with two gloves? Because he doesn't want to feel the nastiness of the cuetec, not because he sweat alot :D
 
fyi...check out earl's shaft on his cuetec sometime. Notice anything? NOT FIBERGLASS! I bet you can catch a good number of cuetec/fury/scorpian cue pros doing the same thing. company butt, custom shaft.
 
fyi...check out earl's shaft on his cuetec sometime. Notice anything? NOT FIBERGLASS! I bet you can catch a good number of cuetec/fury/scorpian cue pros doing the same thing. company butt, custom shaft.

FYI, Earl no longer plays with cutec. Gulyassy.
 
Who are these "most people" I keep reading about? :confused:

Must be me?? Hmm....which category do I fit into, I wonder??

Lessee...been playing pool since 1962, no, wait!

Uhhh.....don't spend thousands on cues, no, wait!

Hmm.....play too well to tell the difference, no, wait!

Damn....just don't know:(

I got it! All of the above!!
 
Why would you play with anything else???

Well... call me "old fashioned" (considering I'm only 21) but I like the feel of good old fashioned wood. I know they are wood, but they are coated with fiberglass. I'm not feeling the wood. I'm feeling the fiberglass. Granted, I would think that anything you do to a shaft, especially coat it with something, will effect how it plays. Wood alone does more than get the job done. Why put all that extra stuff onto a maple shaft when it's already fine the way it is? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Kinda like music, people make instruments out of all these weird materials nowadays. But, there's no reason to, the vibration of the notes come off of the material in different ways, sounding less crisp, synthetic and fake. Wood sounds the best, and that will never change. So in cues, wood plays the best, that won't be changing anytime soon. At least, that's what I believe.

Do I play with a scorpion? Yes.
Is it fiberglass? Yes.
Do I wanna play with something different? Oh, boy, yes (Decided to get me a Coker, in fact).

Either which way, I take my lessons and learn to play the game better with my fiberglass shaft Scorpion cue. It's a cue, it's straight, and it does the job. Also, in the end, it's the indian, not the arrow (as we have all heard many a time around here).

Right now it's just about leveling up to something above a C. Of course whenever I find my way to something above an A, I'll slap a nice custom shaft on the Scorpion. The cheesy transfer design kinda sparkles and would most likely distract people from the shaft. Then I could make me some money (or maybe I'll just be good enough to win with any cue... one day *sigh*)! :thumbup:
 
definition of TOO MUCH ACTION!!!! = walking in with a Cuetec..

.... is that an accident...????

.... or is it by design....????

Cuetec... serious hustle for serious hustlers....


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Why did your think Earl played with two gloves? Because he doesn't want to feel the nastiness of the cuetec, not because he sweat alot :D

Ok, love him or hate him - love them or hate them - this line is classic!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Whats funny is that if one of the big time cue makers started offering graphite shafts then others would follow and in 20 years no one would think twice about them. I'd bet that I could put the same tip on five Cuetec cues and five normal cues and there would hardly be anyone who could tell which cue was graphite and which was wood just by the hit.

I am sure SOME ONE could do it if they studied on it a while. But I am sure that I could walk into just about any pool room and do the test and in 99% of tests people wouldn't know which was which five for five.

Here is a good post on this subject: http://jbcases.com/caseblog/?p=20

Cuetecs aren't marketed to a certain segment of the population. They are marketed to everyone. The owner of Cuetec believes in his heart that he is producing a better performing cue than an all wood one. Now, us "serious" players all have our opinion. Mine is that I don't like the feel of a Cuetec nor the balance. But some people do and they play lights out with them.

And on top of that look at all the glove sales because of them! :-)

Well, we sure do sell a lot of them and people don't complain. So who cares what people are using as long as they are playing pool and not bowling.

Thank you Cuetec and JS Sales (Now Imperial) for all the sponsorship and advertising to bring more people into the game.
 
Why Does Everyone Hate Cuetec!:mad:

I personally do not hate them, but I certainly do not recommend them with all the choices available in the market to day. I own a Pool Hall, that has a Large Retail Production / Custom Cue section, and I also do complete cue repair, along with Custom Conversion Cue Building from this location. Now for Cuetec one piece house cues, I do think they are certainly a good bang for any Pool Room or Bar owners buck for House Cue stock. They will stay straighter than most house cues over a longer period of time, and they will take a great deal of abuse. But, the problem with them, is that they are difficult to repair when damaged, and they have a inherent weakness where they are joint in their center. Most do not know that these cues are jointed in their center like a two piece cue.

However, for a personal playing cue I would never recommend and also would never sell them to a customer for this purpose. Like I said above for the money some one is going spend for a wood cored Fiberglass surfaced cue they can buy a decent wooden cue that will last as long and can be repaired properly if damaged. My personal first choice for a cue that would be in a Cuetec cues price range would be a McDermott. McDermott makes a number of cues in the $149 and below price range, that come a with a life time guaranty to the original owner for life, even the shafts come with this warranty and will be replaced if they warp.

Along with this all Fiberglass cues have a protective coating that wears off with time, which causes the shaft to become sticky and not to slide well through a persons hands. This makes the use of glove mandatory for those who choose to use fiberglass cues.

In the end, in my opinion Fiberglass or any of the other materials advertised will never provide the feel of a good wooden shaft, and they certainly do not have a hit that I can appreciate. For those who use one and are happy with it, that should be all that matters, but for a new player who is trying to learn the game, I personally would never recommend one for the above reasons.

Just my thoughts:)
 
I own a cuetec Python, one of the originals (they just reintroduced them) that I got for FREE when I bought my first McDermott. The MSRP on the Python was higher than what the McD was.

It is a tough cue, it looks nice, but I cannot get over the tactile feel of the shaft. I gave it a chance and played with it for several weeks exclusively, while my McD was back at the factory for a tune up. This is when I decided to buy a second McD, so I would never have to play with that fibreglass. Everyone who has ever used this cue has liked the way it feels. Some were even suggesting that I use the cuetec to play with and the McD for a break cue (I was using them the other way around) :eek:

I haven't shot with it in a while, it's sitting in a closet. It will be available as a house cue when my Cave is up and running later today. I'll have it in the rack and if you forget your cue, or don't have one when you come over to play it's there for you.

I think they are a durable reletively inexpensive cue. I know a lot of people who own them and like them. They are just not my cup of tea, but I certainly don't hate any inanimate object...Hate is too strong a word.


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Don't care for them. Never have, never will. I'm a "feel" player and graphite cues have no feel as far as I'm concerned. Might as well be playing with a broomstick. And I have! :rolleyes:
 
Um, i don't know how we got fixated on graphite, but the cuetec i have has a FIBERGLASS shaft.
It gives you feel like any other cue.

Not those GRAPHITE cuetecs, like that grey one that Marc Tadd used to play with where the shaft is the same color as the butt.

Now THOSE, are just beyond me.
I have no idea how anyone can make a ball with them, let alone, play at a high level.

But the fiberglass coated ones where you can see the wood underneath.

they are just fine.
 
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