Why is it that Jose Parica hasn't been inducted yet in the Billiard Hall of Fame?

Hail Mary Shot

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What are the qualifications for a player inorder to be inducted and become an honorary member of the illustrious Billiard Hall of Fame?

Jose Parica, otherwise known as "Amang" hasn't been given the recognition yet as a hall of famer which he believed he deserved or should have gotten it by now. what sounds to be insulting is that other players much younger than him, had already received such distinction. don't you feel that Jose here is being left out? Jose refused to retire permanently because of this kind of injustice and wants to prove something. guess all of his many accomplishments from the past were being ignored and he has to start from scratch.

dont you guys think these accomplishments of Parica were enough? or is there anything missing or yet something for him to prove?

* 2005 US Open, 2nd place
* 2004 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, November 20-21 Stop, Berlin, Connecticut, first place[4]
* 2004 Brunswick Men's Pro Player Championship, 2nd place[4]
* 2003 Great Seminole Senior Open, 1st place[1]
* 2003 Pechauer Nine-ball West Coast Tour, Season Finale, 1st place[1]
* 2003 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Champion[1]
* 2003 Derby City Classic, Over-all Bonus Round, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 US Open, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 2, 1st place[5][6]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 4, 1st place[5][7]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 5, 2nd place[5][8]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Season Finale, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 20, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Predator Atlanta Nine-ball Open, 2nd place[1]
* 2002 Derby City Classic, All-around Champion[5]
* 2002 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Division, 2nd place[5]
* 2002 Capital City Classic, One-pocket Champion[5]
* 2002 Hard Times Summer Jamboree, One-pocket Champion[5]
* 2002 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 24, 2nd place[5][9]
* 2002 Atlanta Pro Open, 2nd place[5]
* 2002 Senior Masters III, 2nd place[5]
* 2001 Derby City Classic, Nine-ball Banks Champion[10]
* 2001 Karabatsos Invitational Tournament, 2nd place.[10]
* 2001 BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, Men's Division, 2nd place[10]
* 2001 Reno Open, 2nd place[10]
* 2000 Hard Times Winter Jamboree, Nine-ball Division, 1st place[11]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 11, 1st place[10][12]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Tour Nine-ball, Stop 4, 2nd place[11]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 13, 2nd place[10][13]
* 1998 8th Annual Andy Mercer Memorial Nine-ball Classic
* 1997 PBT Legends of Nine-ball, 1st place[14]
* 1997 Camel Overall Winner
* 1997 Camel Boston Open, 1st place[14]
* 1997 Camel South Jersey Open, 1st place[14]
* 1997 PCA Sharky's Challenge, 1st place[14]
* 1996 PBT Darafeev Pro 9-Ball Classic, 1st place
* 1996 Lion's Den Tournament, Las Vegas, NV
* 1996 Shooter's Open Championships
* 1995 On Cue Billiards Tournament, La Mesa, CA
* 1994 Tommy's Billiards Tournament, Mesa, AZ
* World Team Championship (Team Philippines)[not specific enough to verify]
* 1992 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
* 1991 Florida State Open
* 1991 Ohio State Open
* 1990 Tennessee Bar Table Championship
* 1990 Florida State Open
* 1990 Ohio State Open
* 1990 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
* 1990 Jupiter Open
* 1989 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
* 1989 International Open 9-Ball
* 1989 Philippine Nine-ball Open Cahmpionship
* 1988 Gandy Open
* 1988 Japan Open
* 1988 World Pro Tournament
* 1988 Gandy Open
* 1986 Great American Open
* 1986 Clyde Childress Open, Classic Cup V USPPA Pro, first place[14]
* 1982 Playboy All-around Classic
* 1980 International,[not specific enough to verify] Taiwan, All-around Champion
* 1980 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
* 1979 Japan Open
* 1978 International,[not specific enough to verify] Japan, All-around Champion
* Philippine Hall of Fame awardee

[edit] Other Results

* 13th place, 2005 Pechauer West Coast Tour Stop
* 20th place, 2005 Derby City Classic Bank Division
* 24th place, 2005 Derby City Classic One Pocket
* 15th place, 2005 Derby City Classic 9-Ball
* 9th place, 2005 Turning Stone Classic
* 13th place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 9-Ball Division
* 33rd place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 8-Ball Division
* 33rd place, 2005 Reno Open
* 7th place, 2005 Big Apple 9-Ball Classic
* 5th place, 2005 Joss NE 9-Ball Tour Season Finale
* 13th place, 2005 Senior Masters VI
* 7th place, 2005 Reno Open
* 29th place, 2005 IPT King of the Hill 8-Ball Shoot Out
* 4th place, 2005 Skins Billiard Championship
 
I think this is a very good question. Parica paved the way for the Phillipine invasion...including Efren's coming over. Parica may not have as many "Pro" tour wins as Efren, but he has many tourney accomplishments. He is also one of the most feared players in the green rooms. He plays every game well and he says when he is in dead punch, even Efren cant beat him. I think he will get in the HOF eventually.

Southpaw
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
What are the qualifications for a player inorder to be inducted and become an honorary member of the illustrious Billiard Hall of Fame?
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He has to be voted in by the BCA Hall of Fame Committee. If you are really concerned, you should contact those committee members. This forum will get to some of them, but probably not most.

Parica did get some votes in the last ballot. Do you feel he should go in ahead of Hopkins?
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
What are the qualifications for a player inorder to be inducted and become an honorary member of the illustrious Billiard Hall of Fame?

Jose Parica, otherwise known as "Amang" hasn't been given the recognition yet as a hall of famer which he believed he deserved or should have gotten it by now. what sounds to be insulting is that other players much younger than him, had already received such distinction. don't you feel that Jose here is being left out? Jose refused to retire permanently because of this kind of injustice and wants to prove something. guess all of his many accomplishments from the past were being ignored and he has to start from scratch.

dont you guys think these accomplishments of Parica were enough? or is there anything missing or yet something for him to prove?

* 2005 US Open, 2nd place
* 2004 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, November 20-21 Stop, Berlin, Connecticut, first place[4]
* 2004 Brunswick Men's Pro Player Championship, 2nd place[4]
* 2003 Great Seminole Senior Open, 1st place[1]
* 2003 Pechauer Nine-ball West Coast Tour, Season Finale, 1st place[1]
* 2003 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Champion[1]
* 2003 Derby City Classic, Over-all Bonus Round, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 US Open, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 2, 1st place[5][6]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 4, 1st place[5][7]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 5, 2nd place[5][8]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Season Finale, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 20, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Predator Atlanta Nine-ball Open, 2nd place[1]
* 2002 Derby City Classic, All-around Champion[5]
* 2002 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Division, 2nd place[5]
* 2002 Capital City Classic, One-pocket Champion[5]
* 2002 Hard Times Summer Jamboree, One-pocket Champion[5]
* 2002 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 24, 2nd place[5][9]
* 2002 Atlanta Pro Open, 2nd place[5]
* 2002 Senior Masters III, 2nd place[5]
* 2001 Derby City Classic, Nine-ball Banks Champion[10]
* 2001 Karabatsos Invitational Tournament, 2nd place.[10]
* 2001 BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, Men's Division, 2nd place[10]
* 2001 Reno Open, 2nd place[10]
* 2000 Hard Times Winter Jamboree, Nine-ball Division, 1st place[11]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 11, 1st place[10][12]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Tour Nine-ball, Stop 4, 2nd place[11]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 13, 2nd place[10][13]
* 1998 8th Annual Andy Mercer Memorial Nine-ball Classic
* 1997 PBT Legends of Nine-ball, 1st place[14]
* 1997 Camel Overall Winner
* 1997 Camel Boston Open, 1st place[14]
* 1997 Camel South Jersey Open, 1st place[14]
* 1997 PCA Sharky's Challenge, 1st place[14]
* 1996 PBT Darafeev Pro 9-Ball Classic, 1st place
* 1996 Lion's Den Tournament, Las Vegas, NV
* 1996 Shooter's Open Championships
* 1995 On Cue Billiards Tournament, La Mesa, CA
* 1994 Tommy's Billiards Tournament, Mesa, AZ
* World Team Championship (Team Philippines)[not specific enough to verify]
* 1992 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
* 1991 Florida State Open
* 1991 Ohio State Open
* 1990 Tennessee Bar Table Championship
* 1990 Florida State Open
* 1990 Ohio State Open
* 1990 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
* 1990 Jupiter Open
* 1989 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
* 1989 International Open 9-Ball
* 1989 Philippine Nine-ball Open Cahmpionship
* 1988 Gandy Open
* 1988 Japan Open
* 1988 World Pro Tournament
* 1988 Gandy Open
* 1986 Great American Open
* 1986 Clyde Childress Open, Classic Cup V USPPA Pro, first place[14]
* 1982 Playboy All-around Classic
* 1980 International,[not specific enough to verify] Taiwan, All-around Champion
* 1980 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
* 1979 Japan Open
* 1978 International,[not specific enough to verify] Japan, All-around Champion
* Philippine Hall of Fame awardee

[edit] Other Results

* 13th place, 2005 Pechauer West Coast Tour Stop
* 20th place, 2005 Derby City Classic Bank Division
* 24th place, 2005 Derby City Classic One Pocket
* 15th place, 2005 Derby City Classic 9-Ball
* 9th place, 2005 Turning Stone Classic
* 13th place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 9-Ball Division
* 33rd place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 8-Ball Division
* 33rd place, 2005 Reno Open
* 7th place, 2005 Big Apple 9-Ball Classic
* 5th place, 2005 Joss NE 9-Ball Tour Season Finale
* 13th place, 2005 Senior Masters VI
* 7th place, 2005 Reno Open
* 29th place, 2005 IPT King of the Hill 8-Ball Shoot Out
* 4th place, 2005 Skins Billiard Championship
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He also won the big tourney at the Sands in Las Vegas in 1990, Louie Roberts last tournament.

I was on the HOF committee this year and voted for Jose. My comment was that I would vote for him every year until he got in. And I will. He's got my vote. I also voted for Allen and Sang Lee.
 
jay helfert said:
He also won the big tourney at the Sands in Las Vegas in 1990, Louie Roberts last tournament.

I was on the HOF committee this year and voted for Jose. My comment was that I would vote for him every year until he got in. And I will. He's got my vote. I also voted for Allen and Sang Lee.
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Do the members of the Hall of Fame committee get to see how the other members of the committee voted? In other words, do the voting members get to see how many votes was cast for each nominee? Just curious as to how the process works.

JAM
 
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Who's significantly younger than Parica and has gotten that distinction? Last time I looked at the HOF I don't recall a living player under 50 in there. Sigel I think was youngest inducted but he's a multiple world and US open champ.
 
JAM said:
Do the members of the Hall of Fame committee get to see how the other members of the committee voted? In other words, do the voting members get to see how many votes was cast for each nominee? Just curious as to how the process works.

JAM
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You can see the total number of votes for each player, but not who voted for whoever.
 
axejunkie said:
Who's significantly younger than Parica and has gotten that distinction? Last time I looked at the HOF I don't recall a living player under 50 in there. Sigel I think was youngest inducted but he's a multiple world and US open champ.
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I'm pretty sure Jean Balukas got in at a younger age than Mike.
 
jay helfert said:
I'm pretty sure Jean Balukas got in at a younger age than Mike.
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I did some research... and Jay's correct... Jean was inducted in 1985 and she was born in 1959... making her either 25 or 26 when she was inducted (depending on where her birth date (June 28th) was relative to her induction date)... and yes, she is the youngest person ever to be in the HOF.

Mike was 35 when he was inducted... the youngest male to date.
 
axejunkie said:
Who's significantly younger than Parica and has gotten that distinction? Last time I looked at the HOF I don't recall a living player under 50 in there. Sigel I think was youngest inducted but he's a multiple world and US open champ.
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Nick Varner was born May 15, 1948 and inducted at age 44 in 1992.
Earl Strickland was born in June 1961 and inducted in 2006 at age 45.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
What are the qualifications for a player inorder to be inducted and become an honorary member of the illustrious Billiard Hall of Fame?

Jose Parica, otherwise known as "Amang" hasn't been given the recognition yet as a hall of famer which he believed he deserved or should have gotten it by now. what sounds to be insulting is that other players much younger than him, had already received such distinction. don't you feel that Jose here is being left out? Jose refused to retire permanently because of this kind of injustice and wants to prove something. guess all of his many accomplishments from the past were being ignored and he has to start from scratch.

dont you guys think these accomplishments of Parica were enough? or is there anything missing or yet something for him to prove?

* 2005 US Open, 2nd place
* 2004 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, November 20-21 Stop, Berlin, Connecticut, first place[4]
* 2004 Brunswick Men's Pro Player Championship, 2nd place[4]
* 2003 Great Seminole Senior Open, 1st place[1]
* 2003 Pechauer Nine-ball West Coast Tour, Season Finale, 1st place[1]
* 2003 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Champion[1]
* 2003 Derby City Classic, Over-all Bonus Round, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 US Open, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 2, 1st place[5][6]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 4, 1st place[5][7]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 5, 2nd place[5][8]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Season Finale, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 20, 2nd place[1]
* 2003 Predator Atlanta Nine-ball Open, 2nd place[1]
* 2002 Derby City Classic, All-around Champion[5]
* 2002 Derby City Classic, One-pocket Division, 2nd place[5]
* 2002 Capital City Classic, One-pocket Champion[5]
* 2002 Hard Times Summer Jamboree, One-pocket Champion[5]
* 2002 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 24, 2nd place[5][9]
* 2002 Atlanta Pro Open, 2nd place[5]
* 2002 Senior Masters III, 2nd place[5]
* 2001 Derby City Classic, Nine-ball Banks Champion[10]
* 2001 Karabatsos Invitational Tournament, 2nd place.[10]
* 2001 BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, Men's Division, 2nd place[10]
* 2001 Reno Open, 2nd place[10]
* 2000 Hard Times Winter Jamboree, Nine-ball Division, 1st place[11]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 11, 1st place[10][12]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Tour Nine-ball, Stop 4, 2nd place[11]
* 2000 Joss Northeast Nine-ball Tour, Stop 13, 2nd place[10][13]
* 1998 8th Annual Andy Mercer Memorial Nine-ball Classic
* 1997 PBT Legends of Nine-ball, 1st place[14]
* 1997 Camel Overall Winner
* 1997 Camel Boston Open, 1st place[14]
* 1997 Camel South Jersey Open, 1st place[14]
* 1997 PCA Sharky's Challenge, 1st place[14]
* 1996 PBT Darafeev Pro 9-Ball Classic, 1st place
* 1996 Lion's Den Tournament, Las Vegas, NV
* 1996 Shooter's Open Championships
* 1995 On Cue Billiards Tournament, La Mesa, CA
* 1994 Tommy's Billiards Tournament, Mesa, AZ
* World Team Championship (Team Philippines)[not specific enough to verify]
* 1992 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
* 1991 Florida State Open
* 1991 Ohio State Open
* 1990 Tennessee Bar Table Championship
* 1990 Florida State Open
* 1990 Ohio State Open
* 1990 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
* 1990 Jupiter Open
* 1989 World Pro Nine-ball Championship (Japan)
* 1989 International Open 9-Ball
* 1989 Philippine Nine-ball Open Cahmpionship
* 1988 Gandy Open
* 1988 Japan Open
* 1988 World Pro Tournament
* 1988 Gandy Open
* 1986 Great American Open
* 1986 Clyde Childress Open, Classic Cup V USPPA Pro, first place[14]
* 1982 Playboy All-around Classic
* 1980 International,[not specific enough to verify] Taiwan, All-around Champion
* 1980 Philippine Nine-ball Open Championship
* 1979 Japan Open
* 1978 International,[not specific enough to verify] Japan, All-around Champion
* Philippine Hall of Fame awardee

[edit] Other Results

* 13th place, 2005 Pechauer West Coast Tour Stop
* 20th place, 2005 Derby City Classic Bank Division
* 24th place, 2005 Derby City Classic One Pocket
* 15th place, 2005 Derby City Classic 9-Ball
* 9th place, 2005 Turning Stone Classic
* 13th place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 9-Ball Division
* 33rd place, 2005 US Bar Table Championship 8-Ball Division
* 33rd place, 2005 Reno Open
* 7th place, 2005 Big Apple 9-Ball Classic
* 5th place, 2005 Joss NE 9-Ball Tour Season Finale
* 13th place, 2005 Senior Masters VI
* 7th place, 2005 Reno Open
* 29th place, 2005 IPT King of the Hill 8-Ball Shoot Out
* 4th place, 2005 Skins Billiard Championship
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Very impressive credentails. And I'm very impressed you were able to compile such a complete list. Good job!
 
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Bob Jewett said:
Do you feel he should go in ahead of Hopkins?
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Man, is that a tough call...Hopkins has won a U.S. Open 9 Ball, a World 9 Ball Championship, a World 14.1 Championship as well as a slew of other pro titles. Plus, what he's done with the Super Billiard Expo...wow!

As for Parica, longevity and consistantly playing at world class speed, plus the aforementioned host of titles in this threads original post....

I personally would vote for Hopkins. More majors swayed me.
 
axejunkie said:
Who's significantly younger than Parica and has gotten that distinction? Last time I looked at the HOF I don't recall a living player under 50 in there. Sigel I think was youngest inducted but he's a multiple world and US open champ.
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Some of the female members aren't nearly that old. Ewa, Loree Jon ... I'm not sure how old Robin was when she got in.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Very impressive credentails. And I'm very impressed you were able to compile such a complete list. Good job!
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It's not too difficult to ascertain what a Filipino pool player's accomplishments are today because most, if not all, of the Filipino champion players are listed in Wikipedia. Here's Bustie's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Bustamante

Ironically, American Champion Earl Strickland's page in Wikipedia states this at the top: The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. :D

Here's Earl's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Strickland

There aren't as many American pool players listed in Wikipedia as there are Filipinos. There is no mention of the American legend and BCA Hall of Famer Buddy Hall, for example.

JAM
 
JAM said:
It's not too difficult to ascertain what a Filipino pool player's accomplishments are today because most, if not all, of the Filipino champion players are listed in Wikipedia. Here's Bustie's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Bustamante

Ironically, American Champion Earl Strickland's page in Wikipedia states this at the top: The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. :D

Here's Earl's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Strickland

There aren't as many American pool players listed in Wikipedia as there are Filipinos. There is no mention of the American legend and BCA Hall of Famer Buddy Hall, for example.

JAM
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Jam, I believe the BCA Hall of Fame carries more weight with regards to recognition than being mentioned in wikipedia. Not being mentioned in the BCA hall of fame is like saying that Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player (according to the Encarta) without being inducted into the Hall of Fame.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
Jam, I believe the BCA Hall of Fame carries more weight with regards to recognition than being mentioned in wikipedia. Not being mentioned in the BCA hall of fame is like saying that Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player (according to the Encarta) without being inducted into the Hall of Fame.
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I had thought that, too, until I noticed that Buddy Hall, who is a BCA Hall of Famer was not listed and Johnny Archer who is not a BCA Hall of Famer is listed.

Here's a list of the American pool players on Wikipedia, and more than half of them have NOTHING written up about them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCA_Hall_of_Fame

Look at Loree Jon Jones' page in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loree_Jon_Jones

A little bone, but not much meat on it when it comes to American pool players. It is sickening.

JAM
 
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JAM said:
It's not too difficult to ascertain what a Filipino pool player's accomplishments are today because most, if not all, of the Filipino champion players are listed in Wikipedia. Here's Bustie's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Bustamante

Ironically, American Champion Earl Strickland's page in Wikipedia states this at the top: The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. :D

Here's Earl's link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Strickland

There aren't as many American pool players listed in Wikipedia as there are Filipinos. There is no mention of the American legend and BCA Hall of Famer Buddy Hall, for example.

JAM
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JAM,

Thanks for these links.

Terry
 
You do know

that the Wikipedia is made up of individual posts to it by the interent public, don't you? The reason some players are not in it is simply because someone has not taken it upon themselves to submit the proper bio, background info, and tournament wins to it to begin with.
 
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