puso mo tolso you're saying dennis is not afraid of shane and its the other way around? but some people here are claiming...
All I can say is that EVERYBODY is afraid of Dennis.
Why not Shane vs Lee Van Corteza
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All I can say is that EVERYBODY is afraid of Dennis.
And everybody is afraid of Shane.... but I still think that LeeVan is the monster to beat.
This is true. I heard it from Carlo Dalmatin who has been there also, with SVB and Thorsten Hohman
You can bet your bottom dollar that Shane will gamble with Dennis and that there is not a player living that Shane won't play. He knows what all the top players are capable of and knows that he doesn't HAVE to win. But by now he knows what he is capable of and what he has to do TO WIN.
So far in TAR matches Shane has played everyone just what they wanted. He has accepted everyone's conditions and played them. He played bar box with Scott Frost, played Earl on the 5x10 like Earl wanted and then Earl and his backer's nuts shriveled up and they refused to play Shane on the 9 footer as promised, Shane played Alex on the size pockets Alex asked for.
Shane has gone to the Philippines many times and matched up and gotten beaten and beaten others. He isn't afraid of anyone at this point.
In the first match with Alex where Shane gave it away he learned that there is no safe margin until the last ball falls.
All the Filipino backers have enough connections to know that their money is safe if they ship it in betting on their player in Vegas.
I WISH Manny Paquiao would get involved and Joe Rogan too. Either of those guys could do so much for pool just by mentioning TAR. They both should understand how much this format means since they are both involved in head to head battle type sports.
Imagine Joe or Manny hyping up a pool match for weeks before it goes off. They know the business, they know promotion.
In the end who really cares whether Dennis or Shane is "better". We just want to see them match up TAR style in the TARPIT for 3 days with no escape!!!
Thanks for the update sir :smile: I guess Shane's game has leaped into a different dimension since the I last time saw him. I also agree with you that this would be the match of the century if they are able to play for a million. Hope it happens.
Pinoy-really wants to see the million dollar match.
Imho for a win against Shane to really matter, you have to play a long race. In a long race, you either need to make almost no mistakes for a looong time like Alex did last time, or be able to break good enough to cover your mistakes with packages - which is what Shane will be doing. If Donnie Mills broke for Alex, it might've been a different story. But if you're not getting shots on the 1, then you have to play perfect and fight an uphill mental battle too...you know you have to play near perfect for days and he doesn't.
Thats like saying usain bolt's accomplishments dont matter cuz he doesnt run marathons.
So in pool the better player can be decided in a sprint? Sorry but that isn't an accurate measure of the skill gap.
Anyways I'd really like to see a Shane play Yang or Wu.
Then by your statement I should assume I play like a monster since I beat Corey Deuel in a race to 3. Damn, I never realized how good I am. Thanks!!!!:thumbup:
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Lol i wish i was like that too!
But my point was more toward the claim that "if he doesnt win in a hundred game format then it wouldn't matter". Different formats.
I like yang/ wu vs svb too better than orcullo or corteza. Those two are relatively underrated compared to the filipinos. Wu might have dropped a bit though. Yang always played perfect pool.
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This should be able to happen very easily. Its obvious that Shane will and has played almost all the top players in the last few years. Money plays the smallest roll when these matches go off and all someone has to do is step up and stake Dennis or any other player.....or at least one would think. Timing has to be right but other than that its basically a no brainer. Its great to watch and it makes the players some money but a $10K set is far from impossible when it comes to this caliber of players. Even in this economy, money is not the same as it was years ago and playing a $10K set now-a-days is probably the equivalent of $1K set not all that long ago.....especially when multiple people put it up. Shane is the man to beat and he has taken a page from Alex's book when Alex said "im not saying im the best but whoever says they are, I want to play them"
I was watching "Clash of the Titans" tournament that was held not long ago in Toronto I believe. Anyways, Shane is talking with one of the commentators and when asked about Orcullo, Shane said he didn't want to play him because he's playing too good.
I couldn't believe it but go watch it on Youtube and you'll hear it for yourself.
I couldn't believe it but go watch it on Youtube and you'll hear it for yourself.
Just for info, when Shane and Dennis played here in Dubai, Shane was leading most of the time. Until Dennis caught fire and overtook Shane. Even Shane got surprised to find out Dennis was breaking superbly in 10 ball, which was Shane's bread n butter.
Dennis is way too good especially in long races. Top PROS in the Philippines, when they play money-game matches, they play long races. This is the reason why they don't want to play Dennis in long races since he is very deadly when he gets his rhythm. He's dubbed "ROBOCOP" since he is very consistent from start to finish, like a man-machine.
All players, even Shane will tell you that if you are Dennis' opponent and sitting on the other chair, you will really feel how good he is more than what a plain spectator feels or sees.
Probably not the most diplomatic thing to say right now, but imo neither of these two players (Shane or Alex) would have had much of a chance against Dennis playing like they did this past weekend. I think he would take to this table like a duck to water. Sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm just being honest. :yeah:
i believe thats what everyone said the second time they played. they all said that 10 ball is a harder game so it'll show who's the better player as it will be more indicative than 9 ball in terms of skill. they also said that the first match was in taiwan, but being that this second match is in the philippines, dennis not only has the home court advantage but that since he is the better player, he would be favourite in a long 10 ball race as skill should play a bigger role in the outcome. but then dennis got waxed when yang caught 7 gears. and the few asian guys that bet on yang robbed everyone in the action section of this forum.
that being said though, yang retired but then he came back so im not sure what his status is with his play. but i dont think he even really needs that much practice. from what i know, he picked up pool relatively late in his life compared to others and was running out racks easily with very little practice.
also, regarding lee van vs. shane, i realize shane might have a better break but lee van's cueball control is insane. some of the stuff i've seen him do doesnt even seem possible. it's tough to fade shane's break but i'd still have to take lee van in that match, especially if im getting games or odds.
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I talked to Hatch last year and he was dying to play SVB. If Dennis' head is right (long shot) he is world class for sure. A friend of mine heard Corey Duel say "good thing Dennis isn't practicing because none of us would beat him" outside of Turning Stone some time ago. Dennis beat the at the time reigning world 10 ball champion Darren Appleton in a TAR match as well. I think he could compete with Shane. Maybe not beat him, but definitely compete.
Thanks Jay for putting "credibility" on what I've said regarding Dennis O.
Having a seasoned commentator and analyst like you breaking in on Shane's chances against Dennis, plus the fact that Shane is literally avoiding Dennis for a possible match-up in the Philippines (as he really had a hard time and felt victim to Dennis perfect game here in Dubai), this validates Dennis status as the most "feared" player right now.
I think you misunderstood what Jay was saying.
To me, it seemed like Jay was saying that Shane & Alex would have no chance against Dennis IF they played against him, the way they shot this past weekend. They were somewhat inconsistent, playing well at times, and not so well at other moments. They didn't play as well as they are capable of.
I don't think Jay was saying that they have no chance agaisnt Dennis.
Eric >sorry to burst your bubble