Why so hot?

IMO the label, sig, and cue are in very good shape. The original shipping tube is pretty neat as well.
 
Hot Cue

Hoppe ring appears to be cracked in the photos, but is described as 'excellent' condition. Rest of the cue appears in great shape.
 
For Willie Hoppe cues, it almost doesn't get better than this. First edition label, first edition signature, outstanding condition, and an original shipping tube. The only way it could be better is if the base wood was ebony or oak, and if it had the weight shield stamp.
 
robertno1pool said:
Hoppe ring appears to be cracked in the photos, but is described as 'excellent' condition. Rest of the cue appears in great shape.
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The ivory rings are almost always seriously cracked. The very slight hair line cracks that this one has do constitute excellent condition. Remember, this cue was made in the 1940s and still looks this good...
 
Marked that last night, out of sheer curiousity. Was wondering the same thing. That is way high for that cue. I've bought and sold several nowhere close to that $ amount. Can't wait to see what it ends for.

Unless...... this guy is alternate ID bidding up his own stuff, as is a very common practice.
 
I seem to remember this cue and tube for sale a while ago,and that is what got me to looking. I think the combo went off around $700.
 
half fast bankr said:
Marked that last night, out of sheer curiousity. Was wondering the same thing. That is way high for that cue. I've bought and sold several nowhere close to that $ amount. Can't wait to see what it ends for.

Unless...... this guy is alternate ID bidding up his own stuff, as is a very common practice.
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I can appreciate that everyone is on the look out for fraud, but there is none to be found here. I am the seller of this cue, and this is the first item that I have sold on eBay. Unfortunately for my wife, I'm primarily a buyer. One of the bidders is a fellow AZ'er, and the other is a guy who buys premium BBC items such as this. That's all there is to it. One seller, and two guys who both want the item very badly. Although there are only two bidders at this point, there are over 50 watchers! So the fun may not be over yet... :D

They don't call me Mr Hoppe for nothing. ;)
 
hangemhigh said:
I seem to remember this cue and tube for sale a while ago,and that is what got me to looking. I think the combo went off around $700.
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This cue has never been on fleaBay. I acquired it via private sale from a prominent billiard antiques dealer. If you squint real hard, you can see this cue to the far left in my avatar. Notice the unique leather wrap color.
 
Mr Hoppe said:
I can appreciate that everyone is on the look out for fraud, but there is none to be found here. I am the seller of this cue, and this is the first item that I have sold on eBay. Unfortunately for my wife, I'm primarily a buyer. One of the bidders is a fellow AZ'er, and the other is a guy who buys premium BBC items such as this. That's all there is to it. One seller, and two guys who both want the item very badly. Although there are only two bidders at this point, there are over 50 watchers! So the fun may not be over yet... :D

They don't call me Mr Hoppe for nothing. ;)
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Please accept my apologies for my skepticism. With Ebay, it is tough to tell anymore when something is legit and when it isn't. Anything at all out of the norm sets off alarms. I wish you the best of luck with the sale.
Joe
 
Just for the record!!! I am one of the bidders on this item, to my knowledge there is no FRAUD involved. I think the cues is a fantastic representation of Brunswick cues of the era!!. Like Mr. Hoppe said, this cue is from the first series of Titlist Willie Hoppe produced by Brunswick in the early 1940's. It is in Supreme Condition, cues of this quality are very rarely seen, and it is complete with the original shipping tube.

However, while I am no longer in the running for this cue it is in my opinion that it is worth every penny of what has been bid. To, Troy (Mr. Hoppe) I would say thanks for offering such a nice collectible. To those who appear to not understand why the item is so sought after, do some research on this subject and it will all become very clear.;)

No disrespect intended to anyone:) , and please have a nice day!!!!
 
Bamacues said:
Please accept my apologies for my skepticism. With Ebay, it is tough to tell anymore when something is legit and when it isn't. Anything at all out of the norm sets off alarms. I wish you the best of luck with the sale.
Joe
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No worries Joe. I just handed out some REP the other day to a guy pointing out yet another SW fleaBay scam. Man, I'd NEVER buy a SW cue via eBay...
 
While I never even hinted fraud,there was a Hoppe on E-bay with the same type black tube a short time ago that did not reach the heights of this auction. For those who appear not to understand some trust AZ for definative answers,I suggest you do some research as to why legitimate questions are asked are correctly answered here. No disrespect intended to anyone.
 
Hangemhigh, you have a good memory. There was a similar, yet different, Hoppe cue that sold several months ago with it's original shipping tube, and I bought it...

I think Manwon's comments may have ruffled you, but I assure you he meant no disrespect. I think what you were hearing is a level of disappointment that 98% of this board's membership has such a low level of appreciation for these cues that form the foundation of modern cue making and the history of our sport. When you think about it, Brunswick was making full spliced cues with four veneers at least as early as the 1920s, and some cue makers are still trying to get it right today. In fact, I have a 1920s BBC (Brunswick Balk Collender) model 26.5 with points so sharp and even that they rival today's top custom builders. I showed it to Darrin Hill, and he couldn't believe that a craftsman of the time could do that level of work with the tools that they had. There is a reason that Balabushka, Szamboti, Paradise and others used these blanks as the basis of some of their works. The truth is that these cues are the reason why our cues have points and veneers even today. Chances are that you may even own a cue with a "Hoppe ring," and of course this is where that design element came from also.

I share Craig's disappointment with the lack of AZer's appreciation, and awareness of these beautiful cues. However, I also share his willingness to share and educate others on these increasingly rare pieces of billiard history. Others who seem more than willing to share BBC knowledge are: Tate, Tecunningham, Runscott, Koinnkid, and I'm sure there are others. Feel free to PM any time. :)
 
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As I stated before, no disrespect was intended to anyone. But, I had a feeling that there may have been some misunderstanding concerning the validity of the auction, and I do not believe there is. I also did not want anything negative about Troy, because from what I know he is a stand up Guy.

I suspect that much of the misunderstanding was caused by the fact that there is not much information out there on older Brunswick cues, except for the Blue Book and that is joke.

Please have a good Night, and again no disrespect intended to anyone.
 
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