Why use a Milk Dud Tip?

Does Soy Milk work? ;)
I spoke with a few guys on the league last night, this was news to them all, I don't think this has caught on in Austin!
 
Back in the day, I did a batch, soaked, baked and then pressed them in a hydraulic press at a machine shop. We soaked them in different things, including water, iodine, and milk. Some got WAY hard.
 
I've made some Milk Duds Tips before. I cant tell if it plays better than its unmodified version. I used 2% milk, cuz it was all I had. I still have a few 14mm left over. PM if you want to try out a free milk dud, but use at own risk.
 
Why use a Milk Dud Tip?

... I would like to know what happens in the process of soaking in milk that makes this tip so special, especially from other users of them. Thanks in advance.
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Compressing removes the air all at once rather than over time so your tip plays the same over its life rather than getting gradually harder. Soaking in milk just softens the leather for pressing, like water would - I think the benefits of milk over water are probably an urban myth.

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Patrick Johnson said:
Compressing removes the air all at once rather than over time so your tip plays the same over its life rather than getting gradually harder. Soaking in milk just softens the leather for pressing, like water would - I think the benefits of milk over water are probably an urban myth.
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That's exactly what I was thinking :thumbup: . I doubt that milk has any sort of chemical reaction to the leather.
 
knoxpossum said:
That's exactly what I was thinking :thumbup: . I doubt that milk has any sort of chemical reaction to the leather.
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I tried water, and what I found is that it worked just fine. However, milk might have something in it that helps "glue" the leather somewhat, for while the tips I soaked in water and then compressed seemed to be a bit softer afterwards, maybe even a tad spongy, those soaked in milk and then compressed didn't show any sign of becoming spongy.

Other posters have said that mineral spirits works very well too.

Milk contains casein, which can act as a binding agent http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-casein.htm and that may be what does the trick with the tips.

Flex
 
rackmsuckr said:
Glenn Atwell gave me a Milk Dud tip for when I replace my LePro. He swears by them. What are the pros and cons?

FWIW, I like to spin my ball a lot and I like a medium, rather than a hard tip to feel the hit. If it wasn't cost-prohibitive to keep replacing tips and mushrooming, I would prefer a medium-soft tip.

I would like to know what happens in the process of soaking in milk that makes this tip so special, especially from other users of them. Thanks in advance.
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My buddy has just got about 30 orders for the milk dud tips.....seems alot of folks want them.....from what i have heard the philipinos really like them...so if they like them then that's good enough for me=))
If anyone needs some just give fifty fifty a pm and he'll set u up...;)
 
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rackmsuckr said:
Glenn Atwell gave me a Milk Dud tip for when I replace my LePro. He swears by them. What are the pros and cons?

FWIW, I like to spin my ball a lot and I like a medium, rather than a hard tip to feel the hit. If it wasn't cost-prohibitive to keep replacing tips and mushrooming, I would prefer a medium-soft tip.

I would like to know what happens in the process of soaking in milk that makes this tip so special, especially from other users of them. Thanks in advance.
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I just spoke to the creator of the MILK DUD last night. Mike Johnson of Jensen Cues in Baton Rouge and mentioned to him about this thread.

Mike informed me that he uses something else besides milk in his concoction to make the Milk Dud tips. (oH YEAH, Mike didn't say what the "secret" ingredient was.)

He has sold these tips all over the world and rattled off more names that he has shipped tips to than I care to type. Apparently there is a market for his tips and people like them.

REPORTING FROM THE FIELD.
JoeyA
 
Chocolate milk, that way the tips will stay brown.
2% will give you a hard hit.
Skim milk will be a medium soft, and Homo milk will give you a fabbbbuuuuluth hit.
 
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Blue Hog ridr said:
Chocolate milk, that way the tips will stay brown.
2% will give you a hard hit.
Skim milk will be a medium soft, and Homo milk will give you a fabbbbuuuuluth hit.
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you mean semen?
 
Mueller's is now selling premade "mill dud" tips called Dudley. 3 pack for $1.95, Box of 50 for $24.95. They are in the catalog (pg 124) but I don't see them updated on the website yet.
 
ratcues said:
Mueller's is now selling premade "mill dud" tips called Dudley. 3 pack for $1.95, Box of 50 for $24.95. They are in the catalog (pg 124) but I don't see them updated on the website yet.
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Do you know what tip is used to make these tips? Is Mueller's the manufacturer?
 
ratcues said:
We are making them. Its an Elkmaster soaked in milk and pressed.
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Thanks. If you don't mind saying, (I make them myself and am not trying to get you to tell any secrets you may have) for how long do you let them soak. How firm are they? Do they mushroom at all? How much do you compress them?

Are they domed or flat, and do they vary in height?
 
Flex said:
Thanks. If you don't mind saying, (I make them myself and am not trying to get you to tell any secrets you may have) for how long do you let them soak. How firm are they? Do they mushroom at all? How much do you compress them?

Are they domed or flat, and do they vary in height?
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I won't give specifics but they are soaked for a couple of days, dried for a couple of days, and are pressed XXlbs per square inch. ;) They end up with a flattened dome and pretty firm. I do not play with them so I am unsure of the mushroom. I've been making them for a year or so and installing for the same. Haven't had a complaint yet.
 
ratcues said:
I won't give specifics but they are soaked for a couple of days, dried for a couple of days, and are pressed XXlbs per square inch. ;) They end up with a flattened dome and pretty firm. I do not play with them so I am unsure of the mushroom. I've been making them for a year or so and installing for the same. Haven't had a complaint yet.
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Thanks, Ryan, very helpful.
 
I just made some.
Put one on my shaft. I like it a lot.
I'm thinking of making a jig where I can make 6-12 at the same time.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Chocolate milk, that way the tips will stay brown.
2% will give you a hard hit.
Skim milk will be a medium soft, and Homo milk will give you a fabbbbuuuuluth hit.
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I hear that in the South, they user buttermilkduds. Is that true?:rolleyes:
 
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