Why use a Milk Dud Tip?
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Muellers Milk Duds!
I bought some about two months ago and changed all my shafts over to them. So far I have had no complaints at all. No mushrooming and miscues are almost non existent. I was using mooris for years and I would miscue constantly. I tried every conceiveable tip tool on the mooris and had nothing but problems. The Mueller Dudley 'elkmaster milk duds' are performing excellently and for the $$$ they are hard to beat.
Dan
I bought some about two months ago and changed all my shafts over to them. So far I have had no complaints at all. No mushrooming and miscues are almost non existent. I was using mooris for years and I would miscue constantly. I tried every conceiveable tip tool on the mooris and had nothing but problems. The Mueller Dudley 'elkmaster milk duds' are performing excellently and for the $$$ they are hard to beat.
Dan
If you guys look for Vikes Billiards on EBay, he is selling a soft that looks like an Elkmaster for $13 for a box of 50. Was thinking of trying a box. I've dealt with Vikes a couple of times and he has some good stuff.
Awesome post. I was wondering if the process could be sped up at all in case you needed one fast. I think we could call your method "Quick Duds".
Yup, I made some with LePros. I soaked em for a day in rubbing alcohol to remove the coating (I tried sanding, and that stuff is like epoxy!). Let em dry for 4-5 days, soaked em in 2% for 2 days, and pressed the hell out of em with c clamps. The result was an insanely hard tip the play pretty sporty. Im gonna try that with a water buffalo tip next for a break cue.
Joe
Speed Kills
You've heard that old saying about speed kills.
Maybe that speedy method could be called Deadly Duds?
JoeyA
Awesome post. I was wondering if the process could be sped up at all in case you needed one fast. I think we could call your method "Quick Duds".
You've heard that old saying about speed kills.
Maybe that speedy method could be called Deadly Duds?
JoeyA
Wife: Hi honey I'm home. Oh you're making dinner, how nice!
Pool player: Nah, I'm just baking a tip for my pool cue.
Sorry just a visual I had reading this.
Hey Dan, what kind of Morris were you using before switching over to Milk duds? Soft Medium or Hard?
Im thinking about buying some Dudleys and wondering how Hard the hit really feels compared to a Morri Med?
Thanks,
Suge
I used the Dudleys for a while, but they dont hit as hard as a Morri hard, or Wizard hard. Maybe as hard as a medium tip. I still like them though.
Joe
Agree
I have to agree with the statemant above, but I have never used a hard tip either. Originally I used the Moori med then after a couple years went to the Moori soft, unfortunately I was miscuing far too often and that immediately changed when I switched tips so it was not a stroke issue, IMO.. Mueller's hardness rating puts the Dudley at 73.6 and the Moori med at 74.2 so pretty close...
Dan
I have to agree with the statemant above, but I have never used a hard tip either. Originally I used the Moori med then after a couple years went to the Moori soft, unfortunately I was miscuing far too often and that immediately changed when I switched tips so it was not a stroke issue, IMO.. Mueller's hardness rating puts the Dudley at 73.6 and the Moori med at 74.2 so pretty close...
Dan
Please clarify instructions
So I left 6 Elkmaster tips in a glass of whole milk on the counter for a week, plucked out the 2 floaters and chugged the rest. I choked on the tips and gagged on the spoiled milk. Although I noticed an increased spin, there has got to be a better way to improve my pool game...
So I left 6 Elkmaster tips in a glass of whole milk on the counter for a week, plucked out the 2 floaters and chugged the rest. I choked on the tips and gagged on the spoiled milk. Although I noticed an increased spin, there has got to be a better way to improve my pool game...
So I left 6 Elkmaster tips in a glass of whole milk on the counter for a week, plucked out the 2 floaters and chugged the rest. I choked on the tips and gagged on the spoiled milk. Although I noticed an increased spin, there has got to be a better way to improve my pool game...
You waited 7 years to make your first post, a bad joke, on a 10 year old thread.
GOOD FOR YOU MAN!
Most people dont have that type of dedication. ...... :thumbup:
You gotta know when to pick your spots! Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!You waited 7 years to make your first post, a bad joke, on a 10 year old thread.
GOOD FOR YOU MAN!
Most people dont have that type of dedication. ......
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Milk Duds for me!
About three years ago I read about Shane using Milk Duds, so I contacted "PoolDawg8" here on AZ and ordered a couple. I liked them so ordered some more.
I gave a couple to a friend of mine and he likes them and put one on another guys cue the other day and waiting to hear how he likes them.
I also like a medium brown Talismen tip. PoolDawg8's tips are where I will stay for now. They last and hold chalk well and are not expensive.
About three years ago I read about Shane using Milk Duds, so I contacted "PoolDawg8" here on AZ and ordered a couple. I liked them so ordered some more.
I gave a couple to a friend of mine and he likes them and put one on another guys cue the other day and waiting to hear how he likes them.
I also like a medium brown Talismen tip. PoolDawg8's tips are where I will stay for now. They last and hold chalk well and are not expensive.
Jeff's tips are the best things going. I will only use his tips as long as I can get them from him. The firmer they play the better. His tips are very consistent. Once in awhile I'll find a "softer" one or one that's a little "fuzzy", but you will find the same in any box of elk masters.
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testing
Many years ago we would dump a new box of tips in water. Those that floated were tossed. I didn't like wetting tips and now precision scales can be had for under twenty bucks. Been a long time now but when I weighed the last box of Elkmasters I bought I found 7-9 very very light tips. Tossed them. Most of the rest fell into two groups, very consistent weight between tips in each group. These were the tips for use or dudding. I also found three or four very heavy tips. I wanted to save these for personal testing with and without dudding but they were lost in a storm before I got around to messing with them.
No big deal to throw away around ten tips at less than fifty cents apiece and I don't think these would have been good tips before or after dudding.
I did measure height and diameter of all tips too but they all were very consistent in these measurements, even the very light and very heavy tips.
I don't know if any of the people dudding tips are testing them before dudding or not. Easy enough to make my own duds that I do that.
I didn't reread this old thread so I may have posted similar earlier in it, not my first time to tell this tale! To answer the original question, why I use duds and single layer tips in general is simple. A single layer tip is either good or bad, no middle ground. I have found bad layers in premium layered tips that either crumbled in shaping or when I wore down to them. Also, with the glue soaking into the leather a little, layered tips alternate between hard centers and soft outside and hard outside soft centered. I prefer playing with leather tips, not glue.
Hu
Many years ago we would dump a new box of tips in water. Those that floated were tossed. I didn't like wetting tips and now precision scales can be had for under twenty bucks. Been a long time now but when I weighed the last box of Elkmasters I bought I found 7-9 very very light tips. Tossed them. Most of the rest fell into two groups, very consistent weight between tips in each group. These were the tips for use or dudding. I also found three or four very heavy tips. I wanted to save these for personal testing with and without dudding but they were lost in a storm before I got around to messing with them.
No big deal to throw away around ten tips at less than fifty cents apiece and I don't think these would have been good tips before or after dudding.
I did measure height and diameter of all tips too but they all were very consistent in these measurements, even the very light and very heavy tips.
I don't know if any of the people dudding tips are testing them before dudding or not. Easy enough to make my own duds that I do that.
I didn't reread this old thread so I may have posted similar earlier in it, not my first time to tell this tale! To answer the original question, why I use duds and single layer tips in general is simple. A single layer tip is either good or bad, no middle ground. I have found bad layers in premium layered tips that either crumbled in shaping or when I wore down to them. Also, with the glue soaking into the leather a little, layered tips alternate between hard centers and soft outside and hard outside soft centered. I prefer playing with leather tips, not glue.
Hu