Willie Mosconi Instructional

[Fast Lenny]

I do not believe this is available anywhere but old used VHS on Ebay possibly so I do not think I am hurting Willie or his family. If anyone has a problem with me posting this up just let me know. Enjoy.

http://youtu.be/pgx0yAjz4rY

 

[hang-the-9]

Nice quality video, did not even know he had one out there.

Wish almost half of it was not wasted on trick shots though

 

[ctyhntr]

Thank you for sharing. I remember renting this tape a couple of times back in the 80's. Up until then, I was learning from Byrne's books.

 

[flyvirginiaguy]

Yes it is great quality on this one. Wouldn't it be nice to have ESPN's archive of their ESPN classic pool matches? I have never even seen where you even can buy them (since they don't show them anymore)... Back in the 80s and early 90s ESPN had some great matches....

 

[1pocketpro]

I do not believe this is available anywhere but old used VHS on Ebay possibly so I do not think I am hurting Willie or his family. If anyone has a problem with me posting this up just let me know. Enjoy.

http://youtu.be/pgx0yAjz4rY

Thanks Lenny! Would never have seen this if not for your work and this AZ post.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Thanks for the link.

Check out the stroke & how he hits the ball.

Thanks again.

 

[ctyhntr]

Stance were more upright back then.

Thanks for the link.

Check out the stroke & how he hits the ball.

Thanks again.

 

[MoonshineMattK]

Thanks Lenny.

Anyone know what kind of cue Willie is shooting with?

 

[Dunnn51]

Nice Vid !

Getting Willie and his Rambow to do an instructional video always seemed to me like trying to make an elephant tap-dance. (I love the guy), but he looks nervous doing these videos. Good info though. He touts diamonds and the value of a good bridge.

:smile:

 

[ENGLISH!]

Stance were more upright back then.

Yeah... & he could not care less if his elbow stayed pined or dropped. He only cares about making the ball & controlling Mr. White. Many times his forearm is no where near perpendicular on his set up. In fact he shoots quite a few shots similiar to CJ Wiley's grip & stroke.

My point is, different shots are sometimes better shot different ways & the same consistent repeatable stroke is not always the one to use.

Regards,

 

[West Point 1987]

Getting Willie and his Rambow to do an instructional video always seemed to me like trying to make an elephant tap-dance. (I love the guy), but he looks nervous doing these videos. Good info though. He touts diamonds and the value of a good bridge.

:smile:

I'm 99.9% sure that's his Bushka...and a beautiful cue it is! I'm pretty sure he retired his Rambow in the early '60s if not earlier...

 

[pdcue]

Yeah... & he could not care less if his elbow stayed pined or dropped. He only cares about making the ball & controlling Mr. White. Many times his forearm is no where near perpendicular on his set up. In fact he shoots quite a few shots similiar to CJ Wiley's grip & stroke.

My point is, different shots are sometimes better shot different ways & the same consistent repeatable stroke is not always the one to use.

Regards,

Actually, his arm is virtually never perpendicular at set up. In fact, he
advises you should be perpendicular at the end of back swing.

Dale

 

[ENGLISH!]

Actually, his arm is virtually never perpendicular at set up. In fact, he
advises you should be perpendicular at the end of back swing.

Dale

Dale,

I did not realize that that was what he advocated.

If so, that would be nearly the exact opposite line of thinking with regards to the 'pendulum' stroke.

I am an advocate of a linear stroke as in a piston type movement going through the 'cylinder' of the bridge hand with the back hand staying in line. Hence the cue moves in a linear motion.

It would seem that a stroke that is perpendicular at the change of direction would be pivoting more from the shoulder than just the elbow. I have not really paid any attention to that. I'll have to go back & take another look.

Thanks for the insight,

 

[lfigueroa]

Actually, his arm is virtually never perpendicular at set up. In fact, he
advises you should be perpendicular at the end of back swing.

Dale

Willie's arm was always forward of perpendicular.

Lou Figueroa
aint seein' no slip stroke
on this vid either

 

[ENGLISH!]

I took another look & it does seem that he shoots some shots from the shoulder with almost no change in the elbow flex.

I think that is similiar to CJ's stroke with the 'reverse' wrist hammer action.

Interesting.

Regards,

 

[asbani]

May I ask for older people who has been around mosconi and know him, which tip did mosconi play with in his time? and what were the cue used in that video? thanks.

 

[flyvirginiaguy]

I'm 99.9% sure that's his Bushka...and a beautiful cue it is! I'm pretty sure he retired his Rambow in the early '60s if not earlier...

I would go 100% on it being his Balabushka, so I am all in :thumbup:.

 

[skierlawyer]

At the time, I bet he didn't know he was using an $80,000 cue :yikes:

 

[acedonkeyace]

Tips that Willie Mosconi used,

I have been told by my grandfather, who was a friend of willie and a Private Butcher for Mr. Mosconi, when he would travel to the Pacific Northwest, he would always stop by and visit and pick up a box of wild game that my grandfather and family had stored and froze from the previous hunting and fishing seasons.

Anyway, my grandfather told me that Willie used a version of the ElkMaster tip that was sponsored by Brunswick, called the Gold Crown Series. Since Willie and Jimmie Caras were both long time spokesman for the 'Brunswick Company'.

Also, he used French Calf Skinned tips, original version of Chandivert Champions.

Hope this helps!!

Mike 'acedonkeyace' Kennedy:thumbup:

 

[flyvirginiaguy]

At the time, I bet he didn't know he was using an $80,000 cue :yikes:

Is this what it went for? I figured it woulda went for more. It has to be the most desirable cue EVER. Made by George and the personal and favorite playing cue of probably the greatest pool player in history. It makes an original Mickey Mantle card look as normal as a can of Pepsi.