World Cup Of Pool

Snapshot9 said:
Fong Pang Chao must have given these boys a couple of pointers? Huh!!! :eek:

Yes. He is now giving serious training to many national players in China. So down the road maybe 5 years, we will see 50 Yangs.:D
By the way i have a question, why don't Efren and Busta give coaching?
 
Sprite said:
Yes. He is now giving serious training to many national players in China. So down the road maybe 5 years, we will see 50 Yangs.:D
By the way I have a question, why don't Efren and Busta give coaching?

1Billion Yangs maybe. :D

There is no formal school in the Philippines. You have to learn on your own and get better so pool hall junkies will let have your turn on the table.

Maybe when they retired they will, but not right now. They are not super rich, but the endorsement they get is not too shabby compare to what they will get if they switch to coaching. I think Efren is still hoping that pool will be included in Olympics someday, so his retirement will have to wait forever. :D
 
crosseyedjoe said:
MY PREDICTION: Pool will be like soccer. Yet another American game that will be huge outside the USA.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

This prompted an involuntarily spitting of a mouthful of coffee all over the keyboard on seeing that description of soccer. Several hundred million are eternally grateful to America for exporting the game of soccer to the world:)

This afternoon, we're going to play that other 'American game'..... golf, then tomorrow some friends will play that 'Outer Mongolian' game............ baseball;) :p

Congratulations to China. Have played in several places in The Far East, including China and including with these two players, everything seems to suggest that they work very hard at their game and thoroughly deserve some success.

Some other AZB'ers who are resident in China and know the pool scene there well (Gadawg etc) would be in a much better position to judge but gut instinct says that though the actual numbers who play pool in China are already large (due to the sheer size of the population) it is nowhere near being in the top echelon of sports in that country (perhaps barely scraping into top 10 or 12?). The same gut instinct can't pinpoint many obvious reasons to assume that pool's market share of the sporting 'popularity' inside China will in the future dramatically increase relative to other sports. It might well do so and it is hoped that it does, but am not sure that anyone should be completely confident that it will. There are lots of other things (some of them even newer and more interesting for the previously closeted people than pool) fighting for the attention, leisure time and spending money of the Chinese people.
 
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Culture

crosseyedjoe said:
MY PREDICTION: Pool will be like soccer. Yet another American game that will be huge outside the USA.

I'm not a sport historian, but all I know is that soccer has not been created in the USA but in England. ;)
 
Crap! Well done Mika&Markus though...didn't get the rolls this time and Chinese got a couple rattlers dropping in at crucial moments in the game...

Chinese did deserve to be punished for almost throwing the entire game away in racks 19 and 20...really bad mistakes...

Anywhoooo....proud of Mika and Markus and know they'll be back stronger than ever again! Well done!

Kimmo

I am offsky to wach this silly NON-american game invented in Mongolia with some tribes playing with their enemies skulls they also call soccer these days... (well actually continue my cubicle-slavery...just needed to get that footie-reference here somehow)
 
billbOK said:
I'm not a sport historian, but all I know is that soccer has not been created in the USA but in England. ;)

Indeed, of course England played a significant role in the development of pool also:

the first book of billiards rules remarked of England that there were few "few Tones of note therein which hath not a publick Billiard-Table."

http://www.doolysproshop.com/poolhistory.php

:p
 
billbOK said:
I'm not a sport historian, but all I know is that soccer has not been created in the USA but in England. ;)

If you really want to be technical, then it's the Roman who invented the game. Yes, England was part of the Roman Empire, but historians aren't probably talking about them.
 
crosseyedjoe said:
If you really want to be technical, then it's the Roman who invented the game. Yes, England was part of the Roman Empire, but historians aren't probably talking about them.

Baahhh the Romans, what have the Romans done for us! :D
 
:confused: I don't want to be technical, but soccer as we know it today was created in England in 19th century. There was born the first soccer federation. In my modest knowledge, it was not the Romans but the Greeks who pushed a ball first with their feet... to be verified...
 
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billbOK said:
:confused: I don't want to be technical, but soccer as we know it today was created in England in 19th century. There was born the first soccer federation. In my modest knowledge, it was not the Roman but the Greek who pushed a ball first with their feet... to be verified...

All I know is that organization of men has the propensity to create their own "Genesis" in many things they love to give themselves a special status in history. So by saying it's created by England, the French and the Normans are probably crying foul.

Regardless, no one can deny that America is the one resposible for internationalizing the game of Soccer and Pool specially on the Eastern Hemisphere.
 
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I don't know what soccer is but I didn't think America had anything to do with football? :confused: Wiki's take on it...

History and development

See also: Football and History of football (soccer)

Map showing the popularity of football around the world. Countries where football is the most popular sport are coloured green, while countries where it is not are coloured red. The various shades of green and red indicate the number of players per 1,000 inhabitants.
Map showing the popularity of football around the world. Countries where football is the most popular sport are coloured green, while countries where it is not are coloured red. The various shades of green and red indicate the number of players per 1,000 inhabitants.

Games revolving around the kicking of a ball have been played in many countries throughout history. According to FIFA, the "very earliest form of the game for which there is scientific evidence was an exercise of precisely this skilful technique dating back to the 2nd and 3rd centuries B.C. in China (the game of Cuju)."[9] In addition, the Roman game Harpastum may be a distant ancestor of football. Various forms of football were played in medieval Europe, though rules varied greatly by both period and location.

The modern rules of football are based on the mid-19th century efforts to standardise the widely varying forms of football played at the public schools of England. The Cambridge Rules, first drawn up at Cambridge University in 1848, were particularly influential in the development of Association football and subsequent codes. The Cambridge Rules were written at Trinity College, Cambridge in 1848, at a meeting attended by representatives from Eton, Harrow, Rugby, Winchester and Shrewsbury schools, but they were not universally adopted. During the 1850s, many clubs unconnected to schools or universities were formed throughout the English-speaking world to play various forms of football. Some came up with their own distinct codes of rules, most notably the Sheffield Football Club, formed by former public school pupils in 1857,[10] which led to formation of a Sheffield FA in 1867. In 1862, John Charles Thring of Uppingham School also devised an influential set of rules.[11]

These ongoing efforts contributed to the formation of The Football Association (The FA) in 1863, which first met on the morning of 26 October 1863 at the Freemason's Tavern in Great Queen Street, London.[12] The only school to be represented on this occasion was Charterhouse. The Freemason's Tavern was the setting for five more meetings between October and December, which eventually produced the first comprehensive set of rules. At the final meeting, the first FA treasurer, the representative from Blackheath, withdrew his club from the FA over the removal of two draft rules at the previous meeting, the first which allowed for the running with the ball in hand and the second, obstructing such a run by hacking (kicking an opponent in the shins), tripping and holding. Other English rugby football clubs followed this lead and did not join the FA, or subsequently left the FA and instead in 1871 formed the Rugby Football Union. The eleven remaining clubs, under the charge of Ebenezer Cobb Morley, went on to ratify the original thirteen laws of the game.[12] These rules included handling of the ball by "marks" and the lack of a crossbar, rules which made it remarkably similar to Victorian rules football being developed at that time in Australia. The Sheffield FA played by its own rules until the 1870s with the FA absorbing some of its rules until there was little difference between the games.

The laws of the game are currently determined by the International Football Association Board (IFAB). The Board was formed in 1886[13] after a meeting in Manchester of The Football Association, the Scottish Football Association, the Football Association of Wales, and the Irish Football Association. The world's oldest football competition is the FA Cup, which was founded by C. W. Alcock and has been contested by English teams since 1872. The first official international football match took place in 1872 between Scotland and England in Glasgow, again at the instigation of C. W. Alcock. England is home to the world's first football league, which was founded in 1888 by Aston Villa director William McGregor.[14] The original format contained 12 clubs from the Midlands and the North of England. The F?d?ration Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), the international football body, was formed in Paris in 1904 and declared that they would adhere to Laws of the Game of the Football Association.[15] The growing popularity of the international game led to the admittance of FIFA representatives to the International Football Association Board in 1913. The board currently consists of four representatives from FIFA and one representative from each of the four British associations.

Today, football is played at a professional level all over the world. Millions of people regularly go to football stadia to follow their favourite teams,[16] while billions more watch the game on television.[17] A very large number of people also play football at an amateur level. According to a survey conducted by FIFA published in 2001, over 240 million people from more than 200 countries regularly play football.[18] Its simple rules and minimal equipment requirements have no doubt aided its spread and growth in popularity.

In many parts of the world football evokes great passions and plays an important role in the life of individual fans, local communities, and even nations; it is therefore often claimed to be the most popular sport in the world. ESPN has spread the claim that the C?te d'Ivoire national football team helped secure a truce to the nation's civil war in 2005. By contrast, football is widely considered to be the final proximate cause in the Football War in June 1969 between El Salvador and Honduras.[19] The sport also exacerbated tensions at the beginning of the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s, when a match between Dinamo Zagreb and Red Star Belgrade devolved into rioting in March 1990.[20]
 
The One,

America is the foremost exporter of Western culture in the post-colonization era. They are the one responsible for bringing and popularizing the game of pool, football/soccer, and even golf in most places in the world.

But so much for that.


I hope the US Embassy in China will approve He-wen Li's Players Visa, so he can compete in the USA.
 
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crosseyedjoe said:
The One,

America is the foremost exporter of Western culture in the post-colonization era. They are the one responsible for bringing and popularizing the game of pool, football/soccer, and even golf in most places in the world.

But so much for that.


I hope the US Embassy in China will approve He-wen Li's Players Visa, so he can compete in the USA.

Joe,

Just curious in what way did the US popularize football?
 
Blackjack said:
Congratulations to Markus Juva and Mika Immonen, they represented their country proudly and played great throughout the entire tournament. Well done, Markus! I hope your success continues!


Thank's bro..


:(


;)
 
i can see the logic in you saying america popularised and exported many games, traditions, and elements of culture, but i'm not sure you had anything to do with football.

alas though, if you did then it's even more sad that you haven't embraced the game yourselves! i love america and on many issues i'll defend it to the end of the earth. but by god it's been a bit of a collective brainfart by the american people to ignore this amazing game! no sport in the world can compete with the feeling you get when your team scores a goal at an english stadium.

and back on topic somewhat, congrats to china. the fillipino's doing anything but win the even was always gonna be a bit of a shock for some people, but at the end of the day they were only short rack races of nine ball. anybody could have won it, it wasn't enough to seperate the differences in skill.
 
TheOne said:
Baahhh the Romans, what have the Romans done for us! :D

Given us the aqueduct...

and sanitation, roads, irrigation, medicine, education, health, wine, public baths, plus they brougth peace :p :rolleyes: :cool:
 
crosseyedjoe said:
.......America is the foremost exporter of Western culture in the post-colonization era. They are the one responsible for bringing and popularizing the game of pool, football/soccer, and even golf in most places in the world......

Re pool......you are almost certainly correct.

Re golf........it is debatable but you are probably correct in respect of USA playing the biggest role in popularising it worldwide.

Re soccer......your comment is a top candidate for the most utterly ridiculous and most absurdly inaccurate sports related opinion posted on this website this year. You must be having a laugh as you surely cannot possibly believe what you have stated?:confused:

.........but just in case you are not just having a laugh and instead have some soccer related information that nobody else in the entire world seems to know........could you give us a brief list of some of those countries (eastern hemisphere, western hemisphere or outer space if you like) you may have in mind in which soccer was popularised as a result of any one of the following things:-

1. Televised USA soccer (as opposed to any other country's soccer) having a pivotal role in encouraging the population of the country concerned to take up the sport.

2. USA immigrants to the country concerned bringing soccer with them and introducing it to the locals.

3. Inspiration provided by the legendary skills and results produced on the soccer field by USA international soccer teams of the past.

4. Any other directly 'USA related' reasons.

Await your list of countries with interest:)
 
jsp said:
Question for the Taiwanese fans and supporters. In an international event like this, once all the Taiwanese players are eliminated with a few Chinese players left in the event, do you then root for the Chinese next? Or would you root for anyone but the Chinese. Just curious. Doesn't have to be in a pool event.
I think you'll find that it would be split... Even within the taiwanese community in the US, there are some pockets that would root for the Chinese, and some would rather see anyone else win...
 
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