Worst Format Ever????

BazookaJoe

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Am I reading correctly?
The finals of the "World Summit of Pool" were determined by ONE SET, RACE TO SEVEN???
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.
 

Williebetmore

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BazookaJoe said:
Am I reading correctly?
The finals of the "World Summit of Pool" were determined by ONE SET, RACE TO SEVEN???
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.

BJ,
Not really.....they could have raced to 3 and had more commercials; or they could have reduced it to 2 balls instead of 9.....it's only a matter of time before we are treated to the "One Ball World Championship" - first one to pocket a ball wins (breakup will not be eligible for this contest, as he's never made a ball yet).

I'm just hoping ESPN covers the rock/paper/scissors competition this year - it's equally competitive.
 

rossaroni

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BazookaJoe said:
Am I reading correctly?
The finals of the "World Summit of Pool" were determined by ONE SET, RACE TO SEVEN???
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.

Welcome to the world of televised pool, where apparently they cannot edit. :confused:
 

selftaut

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BazookaJoe said:
Am I reading correctly?
The finals of the "World Summit of Pool" were determined by ONE SET, RACE TO SEVEN???
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.


And on top off that Shane has to sit for nearly 24 hours while Alex played through the one loss side and then try to get up and play him fresh off of beating busta, not easy by any means.
 

sjm

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rossaroni said:
Welcome to the world of televised pool, where apparently they cannot edit. :confused:

Bingo! How can this be the worst format ever if it's the only format used these days in ESPN televised events, men's and women's?

This is the standard format for ESPN events and has been for many years.
 

pooldawg1

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Coin Toss

IMO, it would be a coin toss between these two don't matter how long the race is?
 

Southpaw

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I agree, this is definitely the down side to televised pool. It still should have been a longer race (to 11 or 13) if it was gonna be a single race in the finals. I know Shane hates going all the way through that field of talent without losing and then lose one set in the finals and come in second. Glitch #8,234,567 in pool I guess.....

Southpaw
 

Snapshot9

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Yes

I know it is ESPN's format, but it compromises the competitiveness of the event, IMO. It should have beens a race to 11 or 13, especially with it only being 1 final race for the money. Sorry, but I am a believer in true double elimination, and if you win the hot seat, then you should have to be beaten twice, not once.

And I am sure Shane has played enough tournaments to know to keep warm while waiting on a final match.

It said Alex started out good (must of broke good) and got up 3-0 right away, but Shane tied him at 5-5. Sounds like Alex won that critical 11th game, and then broke and run for the win. Alex is a much better 'in-game'
player (what happens in the middle of the game, or balls, like from the 2 through to the 8) than what people give him credit for.

Alex must have 'read' the table quicker for breaking than Shane, and I believe it said Shane scratched on a break, which kills you at that level.
 

bignasty

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the bottom line...

the bottom line is, we have 2 great players in the finals fun to watch and the future of the game is starting to look "brighter" and that is a good thing! so lets hope the people tune in and watch the matchs on espn2 so the companies want to advertise during pool! be sure and tune in next sunday june 24th between noon and 4 central time for the enjoypool.com mens and womans semi and finals matchs!:)
 
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Island Drive

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Southpaw said:
I agree, this is definitely the down side to televised pool. It still should have been a longer race (to 11 or 13) if it was gonna be a single race in the finals. I know Shane hates going all the way through that field of talent without losing and then lose one set in the finals and come in second. Glitch #8,234,567 in pool I guess.....

Southpaw

Until pool becomes a recognized sport (skate boarding in the Olympics??) we'll be at the mercy of anything and everything. ESPN takes...and gives little to the billiard world, why? The industry is not willing to get behind the game, why? Because they only think of home sales, why? Because thats ALL they are willing to focus on. WHY? WHO the puc knows why, basically I think because their frikin STUPID why? because they they have NO VISION othere than PERSONAL AGENDA. Ok I'll calm down and watch the US OPEN. Thank god for Barry Behrman.
 

Fatboy

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i'm convinced that the people who work for ESPN are deaf, I'm sure thay have been told many times by people who know more about pool than they do that a race to 7 alternating breaks is a coin flip with top players and not a competitive game, and the audience who knowes even just a little bit about pool will realize this and will not create larger audiences and the coorsponding $$ from advertizers will be lower, its just a fake show and not a good one at that, it isnt good for pool, ESPN's ratings or even people who know zero about pool because they wont learn about the game watching that rubbish.

I hope that Alex and Shane agreed to chop up the $$$ before they played-it wasnt fair to either of them, it aint my business but if was in that spot I'd ask who I was playing if they wanted to chop up the $$$.

It wasnt fair to us-pool players, who wanted a good match to sweat, or bet on.

am I missing anything here?
 

Fatboy

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It also sucks that ESPN is the only sports network that is big, Fox Sports is small time and isnt much better, Euro Sport in Europe is better-they sometimes re-play things too much but overall its a good network with good commentary, they had the snooker championship which is filmed by BBC but they buy it from them(I'm assuming that) and they replayed the good matches, someone there knew good from bad and it was great to watch some matches again, they dont have commericals every 4 minutes either usually there are 3 commerical ointeruptions in an hour-they last longer but on ESPN there are constant commercials, you really notice how bad it is when you come back to America after watching TV in europe, there is alot less adverts.

ESPN blows!!
 

gulfportdoc

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Snapshot9 said:
I know it is ESPN's format, but it compromises the competitiveness of the event, IMO. It should have beens a race to 11 or 13, especially with it only being 1 final race for the money. Sorry, but I am a believer in true double elimination, and if you win the hot seat, then you should have to be beaten twice, not once.
Right on, Snapshot! After all, TV seems to have no trouble editing poker-- the new darling of cable!

On the other hand, maybe the fans get treated to too much action. Perhaps they ought to start shortening bowling finals to 7 frames; tennis championships to 1 set; and major golf championships to 7 holes...;) And while we're at it, NASCAR takes way too much time. Wouldn't it be better (and much safer too) if they only had to go around the track 10-12 times??? Oh, the possibilities...

Doc
 

Fatboy

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gulfportdoc said:
Right on, Snapshot! After all, TV seems to have no trouble editing poker-- the new darling of cable!

On the other hand, maybe the fans get treated to too much action. Perhaps they ought to start shortening bowling finals to 7 frames; tennis championships to 1 set; and major golf championships to 7 holes...;) And while we're at it, NASCAR takes way too much time. Wouldn't it be better (and much safer too) if they only had to go around the track 10-12 times??? Oh, the possibilities...

Doc


even the poker on ESPN sucks, all they show is all-in hands or pocket pairs etc, they edit out regular hands, in europe they show every hand so when a big hand comes up ypou can see the moves the players make and how they trap each other, when you only show high lights like ESPN you dont get a feel for the game/table your watching.
 
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