Would anyone from America play Corey Deuel on bar table?????

i kind of thought you were making an oldschool point.......i agree for the most part....still a few grinders out there
 
Is this

just kind of like a 'Good Hearted' offer to rob everyone?

If Corey is serious, then why doesn't he spot games on the wire, the 8 ball is no spot for A players and above???????
 
hemicudas said:
What I can't believe is that none of these no gambling, nit, would be champions, have the heart to jump up and try to match up with anyone, not just Cory, for any ammount of cash that comes out of their own pocket.

Thirty years ago, Keith, Buddy, Sigel, Hubbart, Searcy, Stevens, Salazar, both Richie's and most of the other top bar table players in the country would have emptied out their own pockets to gamble with these, gotta have a stake horse to think about gambling, nits of today.
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That ain't the only thing which has changed in 30 years $Bill!!!

You stated it well though.
 
Snapshot9 said:
just kind of like a 'Good Hearted' offer to rob everyone?

If Corey is serious, then why doesn't he spot games on the wire, the 8 ball is no spot for A players and above???????
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On the bar box, any of them might be able to spot each other that any day of the week. The 8 on a bar box is nothing at all. Might show up in one of 20-25 games.
 
what about shane van boening?

he just beat dennis orcollo in vegas on the bar table playing 8 ball i bet hes up for the challenge against corey
 
Neil said:
I understand what you are saying here, but some of the so called champions don't have the $$ to play on their own.
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You may be right, Neil but, as a rule, when they do have the cash it seems they would rather rent the Hubble telescope to search for a stake horse than put the cash in action.

The players of yester-year believed in the adage, 100% of a score was better than 50% of the same score.
 
lil jon

hemicudas said:
You may be right, Neil but, as a rule, when they do have the cash it seems they would rather rent the Hubble telescope to search for a stake horse than put the cash in action.

The players of yester-year believed in the adage, 100% of a score was better than 50% of the same score.
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last year at the derby, lil jon was woofing at this guy and the guy walked over to a steak and worked out the details on the money end. lil jon looked at me, i asked him if he had his end in order? he said yep im goin all in ive wanted this game since i walked in this room! he then told me stand close becouse im gonna let um all know, the window is open and the line starts here! you can have what i cant cover! now thats a gambler! dinner,gas and the ticket home layin on the light! gotta respect that kid! by the way he took it down in rather short order also!
 
hemicudas said:
You may be right, Neil but, as a rule, when they do have the cash it seems they would rather rent the Hubble telescope to search for a stake horse than put the cash in action.

The players of yester-year believed in the adage, 100% of a score was better than 50% of the same score.
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Now that's funny and I don't keer who ya are. Rent the Hubble to look for a stakehorse, that's great. Consider it stolen. I might tell someone that they need to rent the Hubble to look for some heart.

lol.
 
JamieMcWhorter said:
I Made The Restriction Because In Case We Would Stake Him Against A Fillipino And Lose I Would Puke....they Comeover Here And Win Everything...im Sick Of Sending Money Home With Them..............

They Are Likeable Guys But Im Just Sick Of Them Coming To Our Country And Taking Home The Money............
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Then spend some money getting your players in shape to beat them. Then fly to Phillipines and empty it out. I guarantee you that when it comes to gambling you can win far more in the Phillipines and Taiwan than they can in the USA.

All you have to do is go there and bet REAL BIG out of the gate. Don't bother with the shortstops or low bets - just tell them you want to bet a half-million and win and you can bring all the money back to the USA.
 
hemicudas said:
You may be right, Neil but, as a rule, when they do have the cash it seems they would rather rent the Hubble telescope to search for a stake horse than put the cash in action.

The players of yester-year believed in the adage, 100% of a score was better than 50% of the same score.
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To put what cash in action? And this coming from a guy who didn't know what a tangent line is?
 
John Barton said:
Then spend some money getting your players in shape to beat them. Then fly to Phillipines and empty it out. I guarantee you that when it comes to gambling you can win far more in the Phillipines and Taiwan than they can in the USA.

All you have to do is go there and bet REAL BIG out of the gate. Don't bother with the shortstops or low bets - just tell them you want to bet a half-million and win and you can bring all the money back to the USA.
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Could they get out of the country with the money if they won?
 
hemicudas said:
You may be right, Neil but, as a rule, when they do have the cash it seems they would rather rent the Hubble telescope to search for a stake horse than put the cash in action.

The players of yester-year believed in the adage, 100% of a score was better than 50% of the same score.
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It has changed. May not be back either.
 
i would think Jeff Boucher in Montana would play him on a bar table. i would bet on Jeff in that match
 
hemicudas said:
You may be right, Neil but, as a rule, when they do have the cash it seems they would rather rent the Hubble telescope to search for a stake horse than put the cash in action.

The players of yester-year believed in the adage, 100% of a score was better than 50% of the same score.
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Hey hemi how about this 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing or 100% of everything in your pocket....
 
smackmac said:
Hey hemi how about this 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing or 100% of everything in your pocket....
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True enough, Smack, it takes heart to empty out. I consider you one of the very few players of today that have enough to do just that. In fact many, including myself, feel you should have won the Louie Roberts award at the DCC the last couple of years.

I have thought about this subject a lot in the last few weeks and now feel there is not that much difference in old school heart and that of today. You old schoolers don't shoot me until you read all of this. Then I think you will have to agree.

All through the 70s, if a player tapped out in a real gambling match with another player he always had it in the back of his mind that he was never really broke as long as there was at least one bar with in walking distance. If you tapped out to a player with any class whatsoever, he gave you a walking stick, 10%-15%, of your money back. This is the part you old schoolers will have to own up to. The player that just went broke could take his walking stick to virtually any bar and find a $5-$10 or $20 pool game and pump back up in no time.

Admit it all you old scuffs, it was easy as hell, even fun, pumping back up in those days. Sit down, watch a few games, pick out the worst player in the joint, if you had the time, start with him and work your way up to the top guy in the joint. By the time you got to the top guy you could just as easily have rail action.

Today you can find $5 action in the bars but you have to play a race to 10 to get the cash. There is no pumping back up in the bars today. The APA has shown all the idiots just how bad they really do play.

Bottom line is, there is a rational reason players of today want stake horses when gambling with other players.

Yes, I stand corrected on the subject but I am the one who figured out the reasoning behind it and am honest enough to correct myself. Let the, I TOLD YOU SOs, begin.
 
I'll go along with everything except the a.p.a. comment.....one of the reasons for the overall improvement in level of play and understanding of pool is the amateur leagues ....and it is fun to watch players develop...
I for one dont mind if everybody knows how I play ...because I will gladly match up with someone that plays my speed or a little above my speed , even , anytime......
 
Well . . .

What happens when the drunk in the bar takes the walking stick? I know of a few times when the drunk finished off the road player and sent him on his way with only a couple bucks for gas.

The Drun . . . er Hu



hemicudas said:
I have thought about this subject a lot in the last few weeks and now feel there is not that much difference in old school heart and that of today. You old schoolers don't shoot me until you read all of this. Then I think you will have to agree.

All through the 70s, if a player tapped out in a real gambling match with another player he always had it in the back of his mind that he was never really broke as long as there was at least one bar with in walking distance. If you tapped out to a player with any class whatsoever, he gave you a walking stick, 10%-15%, of your money back. This is the part you old schoolers will have to own up to. The player that just went broke could take his walking stick to virtually any bar and find a $5-$10 or $20 pool game and pump back up in no time.
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