Notice i changed good to close,in my mind i would not gamble with a close friend,i just couldnt bear down and try to crush my close friend for any money,now i heard billy i say in this matter and i understand fully and respect his view,he would gamble with his friends and does but as long as they both are asured that whom ever the loser may be will be to continue to go on as normal as before they gamble,as is no one is hurting in anyway,money wise or friendship wise,and i think a lot of people will feel find with that,just not my style!so lets hear what side of the fence all azers are with this topic.THANK YOU FOR READING,RICHIE ADAMS.
would you or would you not gamble against a close friend.
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Tough to do.
No, I don't want his/her money and I hope they would feel the same.
For me personally cheap yes (drinks, $5-10 sets etc) , but nothing that would break the bank on either side. I hate playing close friends and never play my best or close to it for some reason. Probably another mental thing. No need to risk the stupid argument that may happen if someone loses a good amount of money. Even though you are close friends and it shouldn't happen, I see it all all the time. These supposedly "close" friends don't act so close than when they lose $100 or more for example.
I like the title. I also would not. My close friends are part of my outlet. Of course we challenge each other and bust each other's balls but I wouldn't say we compete against each other, we more support one another. At work you compete to get ahead, that's a large portion of my life. In pool their are enough guys who I want to beat, rob, see broke, etc that I have no problem gambling with them in fact that's the vast majority of people I come across. I just don't need the strain on my personal close relationships of introducing that dynamic into it. I'd rather they go buy their woman a bracelet then drop a few hundred to me and vice versa.
Plus another thing I have learned over some time, you never really know someone's financial situation so it's hard to determine trivial or not. Bottom line is I don't gamble against my close friends. The opposite side is my good friends can always have a piece of some good or easy action and I would never profit in their loss.
Plus another thing I have learned over some time, you never really know someone's financial situation so it's hard to determine trivial or not. Bottom line is I don't gamble against my close friends. The opposite side is my good friends can always have a piece of some good or easy action and I would never profit in their loss.
Ritchie, Paul and I are and I see nothing wrong with what we did monday night. I got a cheap one pocket lesson.
From another thread:
I said this to Billy Cardone
Its possible, me and you have. And I consider you a good friend who I have the highest respect for. But your a hardcore guy Billy and I know you can fade a $5,000 loss and go to dinner with who beat you, i'm that way as well. But some people IMO cant do that, they have to hate who they are gambling with to win, so they keep up a guard with them.
I have close friends who cant take a loss like you Billy therefore I dont gamble big with them as it would harm my friendship and sometimes with some people my friendship is worth more than $5,000. But I cant play for free, I just start banging balls, $10/game fixes that-and isnt enough to strain a friendship.
Then I have people I know, I like well enough to gamble with, but all we have is a gambling relationship, were kinda sorta friends. No arguments or hatred but not really friends just mutual action for each other. Two ships passing in the night...
So there are 3 different types of relationships I have with people, obviously I perfer our relationship the best of the 3, Harry Platis and I are like that. We play $1000/game of one hole and he one of my best friends and has helped me with legal work and is like a father figure to me in some cases, where he has litterly had a sit down with me and set me straight, But Billy men you and Harry are few and far between, so with that in mind-How are we gonna match up????
I said this to Billy Cardone
Its possible, me and you have. And I consider you a good friend who I have the highest respect for. But your a hardcore guy Billy and I know you can fade a $5,000 loss and go to dinner with who beat you, i'm that way as well. But some people IMO cant do that, they have to hate who they are gambling with to win, so they keep up a guard with them.
I have close friends who cant take a loss like you Billy therefore I dont gamble big with them as it would harm my friendship and sometimes with some people my friendship is worth more than $5,000. But I cant play for free, I just start banging balls, $10/game fixes that-and isnt enough to strain a friendship.
Then I have people I know, I like well enough to gamble with, but all we have is a gambling relationship, were kinda sorta friends. No arguments or hatred but not really friends just mutual action for each other. Two ships passing in the night...
So there are 3 different types of relationships I have with people, obviously I perfer our relationship the best of the 3, Harry Platis and I are like that. We play $1000/game of one hole and he one of my best friends and has helped me with legal work and is like a father figure to me in some cases, where he has litterly had a sit down with me and set me straight, But Billy men you and Harry are few and far between, so with that in mind-How are we gonna match up????
Dave i dont consider what you and paul did crossing that fine line.thats just the thing i am trying to find out from people, is there a line,and where do most people sit that line,if they set it at all!
Hell yea..i have taken thousands off my freinds..gambling has no
boundarys..and they have taken me..but i always give them enough
back to take the bus home!!!!..or to buy one more drink..
boundarys..and they have taken me..but i always give them enough
back to take the bus home!!!!..or to buy one more drink..
Sure, just keep it cheap (depending on your financial stand point).
A friend of mine and I play races to 3 for a dollar all night long. If you are having a good night, you may be up $5-10 bucks. If not, then you break even. Usually the winner will just buy the beer. Either way, there is "something" on the line. And no one is pissy after.
Josh
A friend of mine and I play races to 3 for a dollar all night long. If you are having a good night, you may be up $5-10 bucks. If not, then you break even. Usually the winner will just buy the beer. Either way, there is "something" on the line. And no one is pissy after.
Josh
this was a follow up to the first post to Billy:
Billy here is where I draw the line. its a blurry line i must admit. yes I consider you one of my best friends in pool for the record. The reason I can bet with you is because you dont bet the rent $$$, I know I will never bust you or cause you harm. If I thought I or you were causing any of that stuff/harm, then I would not gamble high with you $20 action is what you would get. How could I do that to a friend? Watch a helpless gambler go bust playing me(I have done that-but those guys arnt friends) Therefore you couldnt be my friend because I dont do that to friends. I hope the feeling is mutial.
I will make a long post about a story that taught me a lession many years ago-if you will read it. I dont want to type it if your not interested. I might actually give you a different perspective on gambling with friends, you have 5, 10,20 times more experience than I do but that dosent mean you seen it all or seen everything happen that I have. That lession i will never forget. The story about me busting someone for ~$470 in 88 and what it did to him may shed some light on my opinion of why i keep it small between friends unless they are hardcore guys like you, Harry etc. PLEASE let me know If you want to hear the story. i'll post it here, its not to long and it aint boaring.
I know i'm the student and your the teacher, so dont take this wrong. I'm giving you a different perspective. Perhaps what I have to say you already know(I wouldnt be surprised).
Billy here is where I draw the line. its a blurry line i must admit. yes I consider you one of my best friends in pool for the record. The reason I can bet with you is because you dont bet the rent $$$, I know I will never bust you or cause you harm. If I thought I or you were causing any of that stuff/harm, then I would not gamble high with you $20 action is what you would get. How could I do that to a friend? Watch a helpless gambler go bust playing me(I have done that-but those guys arnt friends) Therefore you couldnt be my friend because I dont do that to friends. I hope the feeling is mutial.
I will make a long post about a story that taught me a lession many years ago-if you will read it. I dont want to type it if your not interested. I might actually give you a different perspective on gambling with friends, you have 5, 10,20 times more experience than I do but that dosent mean you seen it all or seen everything happen that I have. That lession i will never forget. The story about me busting someone for ~$470 in 88 and what it did to him may shed some light on my opinion of why i keep it small between friends unless they are hardcore guys like you, Harry etc. PLEASE let me know If you want to hear the story. i'll post it here, its not to long and it aint boaring.
I know i'm the student and your the teacher, so dont take this wrong. I'm giving you a different perspective. Perhaps what I have to say you already know(I wouldnt be surprised).
Yea that was more a lesson between friends than anything else. We gambled cheap with a purpose. I don't like gambling between friends unless a lesson is somehow involved.
On a side note a good friend once asked me not to gamble with his cousin, but then he let his cousin play every road player that came through town. I asked out of that agreement, too much easy money, and the guy would just lose it at keno anyway.
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Just curious. What was your price on friendship? Was it $100 or $200. what exactly?
Not to come at you but if your "friend" has to ask you not rob his FAMILY member then that tells the story in and of itself. You were supposed to be on the side of making sure that the cousin didn't play if he had no chance to win, not taking pennies out of the wishing well. People will go off and just because they will lose the money anyway doesn't mean they should lose it to you.
Maybe I just haven't needed the money enough or I just don't care about enough people that this comes into play for me.
The story about me busting someone for ~$470 in 88 and what it did to him may shed some light on my opinion of why i keep it small between friends unless they are hardcore guys like you, Harry etc. PLEASE let me know If you want to hear the story. i'll post it here
tell the story. I will read it.
steven
tell the story. I will read it.
steven
I wouldnt play a money match with a close friend, when i play for money, i want to hurt the player where it hurts & humilate them in front of their supporters & put him/her & the disbelievers in there place. I just dont think its possible that close friends can do that to each other.
You bet i would! It would be just plan wrong if you didn't.
But,
Money has to be small. We usually play $10\$20 3 ahead. I actually give weight and go to 4 ahead to their 3.
I think it keeps us sharp, playing for something, playing to punish.
We don't always play heads up like that, we often play a ring games.
Want to know what is fun, taking a picture of the money you won and sending that picture to your buddies the next day thanking them for lunch!
cbi
But,
Money has to be small. We usually play $10\$20 3 ahead. I actually give weight and go to 4 ahead to their 3.
I think it keeps us sharp, playing for something, playing to punish.
We don't always play heads up like that, we often play a ring games.
Want to know what is fun, taking a picture of the money you won and sending that picture to your buddies the next day thanking them for lunch!
cbi
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