Would You Still Gamble With This Guy?

[Tennesseejoe]

Then just pushout and out play him? He is the stronger handicap correct?

As i read it, you are the stronger player.

 

[ShootingArts]

I recall the guys who were at North Hollywood Billiards, who came when Hollywood Park, and Santa Snita were open . They loved betting horses. Many won big bucks playing Pool.

Many lost it all at track, think it was a disease.

Most never had much but gambling.

I am ahead at all I bet on for the simple reason I don't bet what I don't like or understand. Never bet on dice in my life. As a general rule I know to bet against the shooter but I also knew some guys that could cheat in various ways. Usually the clear plastic dice were favored in private games so that you could see they weren't weighted. I knew a little fat fellow with hands of iron. He could roll corners off of those dice in a heartbeat!

Horses are simple. I love graded stakes, amazing animals. However, when they are running graded stakes my money stays in my pocket. Too equal. When they are running the dogmeat races, cheap claimers, that is when I look for a little class. A little class on the field or shortening up a horse that has been running longer distances is usually a good bet. A horse that is being shortened up often wins their first or second time out. I bet these horses across and the odds on your money takes care of the rest. If the odds go too low, again I just don't bet.

It was funny some years back. They were running dogmeat a mile and an eighth or something like that in the deep sand at Delta Downs. I saw a little class and bet it. The horse I bet came out of the last turn and I literally grabbed my tickets out of my pocket and was going to tear them up in disgust. He wasn't going much faster than a slow trot! He was ahead by four though and a second look showed the rest of the field even more tired than he was. Slowest race I have ever seen but a little class still showed at a crawl!

Hu

 

[alstl]

This thread is a year and a half old. I wonder what the op decided to do.

Bobby Hunt's interviews are must watch. In part 3 he said he never had any fights over pool because he always agreed with the opponent on "stuff" because he knew he was the better player and would get the cash. If the op is good enough to give his opponent a big spot then I'd keep playing him unless there is easier action in the room.

 

[Bob Jewett]

.... In part 3 he said he never had any fights over pool because he always agreed with the opponent on "stuff" because he knew he was the better player and would get the cash. ...

A side lesson here is that if your opponent happily goes along with the "stuff" you bring up, you're in a bad game.

 

[alstl]

A side lesson here is that if your opponent happily goes along with the "stuff" you bring up, you're in a bad game.

What kind of stuff were you trying to pull Bob?

 

[SBC]

Raise the bets, clarify the rules and beat this guy mercilessly.

 

[George]

I'm just curious what everyone thinks of this gambling story that happened last night after leagues. I've been gambling with this teammate many times before after our leagues. Normally between $50 and $100 a set. Based on our preliminary Fargo Ratings, I'm supposed to play him with me going to 7 and him going to 6. However, I've beat him in the past playing 8-ball at 5-3 and he gets all the breaks, at 6-3 winner breaks, and at 9-5 and he gets all of the breaks. He beat me at 9-5 winner breaks once by 1 game, and a couple other times playing 10 ball at 9-5 with him getting the 9 ball.

So last night I was playing really good. I won all 3 of my games with 2 table runs. This guy won all 3 games, but made a few mistakes. Because I felt good I decided I would play him and give him a spot again. We played 10-ball with me going to 7 and him going to 5, he gets the 10 ball, and he gets all of the breaks for $50.

He gets up 3-1 (including the spot) and he decides that he's not going to break the balls anymore. He just slowly rolled the cue ball into the rack where only 1 or 2 balls hit the rail. He did it on purpose. (An illegal break). The first time he did it, I grabbed the cue ball so I could break. Then he reminded me that he gets ALL THE BREAKS. So he took ball in hand and kept playing safeties behind the rack so I had to keep kicking at the 1 ball until the balls were open enough for him to run out.

He did this the last 2 games until he got to 5 games and won. I was obviously protesting that it was a chicken sh!t move and he admitted that why should he break them open and if he doesn't make a ball, then I could run out and catch up. He then said that he will do whatever he needs to do to win.

Well, my conclusion was that I mainly am playing for the fun of it and it's not enjoyable to play with someone who would do that. It's just not "pool" to me at all with that type of illegal soft break. I basically told him that "he blew it". I was giving him huge spots giving him a really good chance to win, because he would never play 7-6 like Fargo Rate says. And then with a big spot, he had to pull that move on top of it. So I said I wouldn't be playing him anymore.

What do you say? I'm also curious on what everyone thinks could have been done with an illegal break (3 balls or more didn't hit the rail) and he was getting all of the breaks? I didn't make him re-break, because he could have just re-broke until only 3 balls hit a rail and I would be in nearly the same spot.

Tell him to enjoy the 50 bucks and never play with him again, weak move IMHO