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wow SVB forfeits match vs Alcano
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This is a sign that you still have ways to go in the pool knowledge; avoid, reading big boys stuff for now. Sorry ..
What country is the ref from?Johnnyt
I think he's Irish.:wink:
Even if Shane was crapped on by the ref here, it's no excuse for quitting.
Stupid, incorrect calls are, unfortunately, part of the sports world, especially incorrect calls that help the hometown boys, but players don't pack up and quit the match because of a bad call. And yes, begging the referee for calls is also quite common and it works, especially in American football and basketball.
Shane might have gone on to win this match, but made the losing move of quitting.
Stupid, incorrect calls are, unfortunately, part of the sports world, especially incorrect calls that help the hometown boys, but players don't pack up and quit the match because of a bad call. And yes, begging the referee for calls is also quite common and it works, especially in American football and basketball.
Shane might have gone on to win this match, but made the losing move of quitting.
When people say "rules are the rules" for things like this it makes me want to explode and kick them in the nut sack. This is the nittiest call in pool.
When dealing with rules, you need to think: why is this a rule? What was the reason that this became a rule. At one time, it wasn't a rule until it because apparent they needed to create a rule to fix a flaw or problem.
Why would calling your shot be a rule? To avoid winning a game because of luck. Was this game won because of luck? No. Carry on.
In baseball, there are rules many don't even know about because they're ignored on a regular basis because they don't present a problem.
For instance, Rule 4.03(a): The Catcher's Balk: A catcher can be called for a balk if he does not "stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher's box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand." Like a pitcher's balk, it allows any runners on base to advance one base.
Why It Exists: the rule stems from when baseball wanted to prevent pitchers from "working around" hitters—that is, giving a batter a free trip to first base to avoid the possibility of a big hit.
Why It's Ignored: Intentional walks are now considered a legitimate strategy. As for a pitchout (in anticipation of a stolen-base attempt), it doesn't really benefit a catcher to vacate the box early; it might tip off the runner.
For instance, Rule 4.03(a): The Catcher's Balk: A catcher can be called for a balk if he does not "stand with both feet within the lines of the catcher's box until the ball leaves the pitcher's hand." Like a pitcher's balk, it allows any runners on base to advance one base.
Why It Exists: the rule stems from when baseball wanted to prevent pitchers from "working around" hitters—that is, giving a batter a free trip to first base to avoid the possibility of a big hit.
Why It's Ignored: Intentional walks are now considered a legitimate strategy. As for a pitchout (in anticipation of a stolen-base attempt), it doesn't really benefit a catcher to vacate the box early; it might tip off the runner.
Clearly is right. It's exactly like the last shot in the Mosconi Cup where Niels puts his stick down before the cue ball stops rolling. The ball was going to hit the cue and would have been a foul but it wasn't a foul that anyone besides a nitty loser would ever call because it didn't effect the outcome.
I add, looks like every table has a dedicated referee! never seen that before, i guess they wanted to avoid players deciding for each others and avoid conflicts;
The rule is you must call the 10 ball. If you forget to call , it is mental error that you should be punished for.
You have got to be the weakest of schmucks to call a foul on your opponent for this. This dude was clearly the last person picked on the playground for anything other than playing barbies. What a joke!
Yep, that's a very lame call. Hope SVB comes back and snaps it all off.
I hate seeing things like this. Nitty nittty nitty.
1. You don't know it is the rule. It appears that way, but I'd like to see if that is the rule and if it was communicated to the players.
2. It clearly wasn't a mental error. He didn't call any of the previous 10-balls he made.
Plenty of people here were claiming a foul should have been called.
So if he was going to call it why didn't he call it in any of the previous matches? I've played a number of sports and it's frustrating when you are bad at your job but I can overlook that, if you're bad at least make the bad calls consistently rather than pick and choose.
I don't think that foul should have been called personally but I could see that foul called before this one. It would have still been a bs move to call it though.
The issue was that the ref moved the stick to prevent a foul.
A tantrum?. I would have lost more control than that. I think Shane handled it well.
Everyone knows it's call shot if it needs to be called. Even most of the rules actually state that.Huge fail/move on the call.
I'm holding off commenting on this...
I'm interested to know what rules they were playing by, it certainly wasn't a foul based on WPA rules...
If it wasn't specifically stated prior to play that all ten balls must be called regardless of how obvious the shot is, then it's bullshit and a move by Alcano that the ref should have ignored.
Jaden
I'm interested to know what rules they were playing by, it certainly wasn't a foul based on WPA rules...
If it wasn't specifically stated prior to play that all ten balls must be called regardless of how obvious the shot is, then it's bullshit and a move by Alcano that the ref should have ignored.
Jaden
If this is really the case then the ref is selectively enforcing the rules and I think SVB is right to forfeit.
Would like to know the rules they are playing by. Does the 10 ball need to be verbally called even if obvious? That was clearly an obvious shot. Ronnie does say something to referee, then referee immediately tells Shane he didn't call the 10 ball.
Ronnie is not above pulling something like this, I have seen him do chicken shit things before. He will do anything it takes to win a match. Sportsmanship is not real high on his priority list.
Ronnie is not above pulling something like this, I have seen him do chicken shit things before. He will do anything it takes to win a match. Sportsmanship is not real high on his priority list.