Even Allison is getting past her sell by date. I don't think any US women players have a chance against the top gals playing today. Maybe in a short set Predator-style event but not in longer set matches.
WPBA to organize Women's World 8-Ball Championships
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Sofia Mast came 5th in the World 10ball with all the big names from Europe and Asia present. Still, as you suggest, American women will likely be in for a very big challenge here.
There's a big difference between pool players and people that like to play pool.
You can't teach killer instinct, passion, desire, the want to. You need the ingredients and treat it
as it is, a job, a career. Practice 6-12 hours a day and you might have a shot.
Overall the Americans have a better chance at hitting the sun with a snowball.
You can't teach killer instinct, passion, desire, the want to. You need the ingredients and treat it
as it is, a job, a career. Practice 6-12 hours a day and you might have a shot.
Overall the Americans have a better chance at hitting the sun with a snowball.
Yes, but she HAS done it, so that needs to be weighed in evidence.
The American ladies (and men) that are at the top do this.
I think anyoneโs whoโs ever had the pool bug has done this for a few years.
The key is probably to get the number of people that do get the pool bug to increase.
Sofia Mast and Savannah Easton are showing dedication, class and ability to handle pressure in a way that they will most likely be constant high finishers in Womenโs World events within 1-3 years. I had been following Kristina Tkach during her teens (as a referee in many events) in girls and womens European Championships and she was showing similar qualities of a future world champion as these two young ladies from the US are showing now.
Thatโs a bit optimistic, maybe 3-5 years.
fargo is notoriously bad in picking up fast improving young players with years of fargo backlog. i think sofia mast is the junior world champion btw. icbw
I am not nearly as sure as you.
I don't see great development from Savannah Easton, whom I believe to be 14, but she's got time. She's young and skilled, but Siming Chen won the China Open at 17, Lorre Jon Jones was world champion at 15 and Jean Balukas was world champion at 13. Han Yu won the All-Japan, a major, by age 17. Jasmin Ouschan won the gold medal at the World Games at age 19. On the men's side, both Gorst and Filler won World 9ball championships as teenagers.
In short, those that go on to be generational players nearly always show it when they are in their teens. For me to believe that either of these two young Americans will be one of the most elite, I'll need to see them win a major international championship (World 8ball, World 9ball, World 10ball, or China Open) in the next few years.
I'm impressed by performance more than I'll ever be impressed by potential, so I'll keep my eyes open and see what kind of performances the two young Americans are able to produce. Wishing both of them every possible success. I'm rooting for them to succeed!
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Not many must check out the WPBA Facebook page. A week ago someone posted they herd 2 players per country. If true, it's going to get really interesting, Fargo Allison is in, WPBA, Tkach, and Fefilova are in, or are they? Are they considered US players. If Fargo, and they are considered US players, Fefoliva is out which would really suck as she is from Wis. Are the WPA allowing Russia to shoot lately? Could Tkach shoot under Russia?
That would be really interesting. They will work it out, they've done a pretty good job so far.
That would be really interesting. They will work it out, they've done a pretty good job so far.
Allison is def representing USA now in international completion. The WPA had a presss release about it a year ago. She's been a US Citizen for decades, and decided to change her pool allegience. The rest of the ladies you mentioned living in the USA do not represent the USA in international competition. Tkach will probably play under a white flag, and get in.
Actually we don't have to guess much.... We just have to look at the recent 9 ball and 10 ball ladies WC. It will be mostly the same field, IMO, with a few more from the America's confederation, IMO, due to the promoter usually having a few wildcards.
Actually we don't have to guess much.... We just have to look at the recent 9 ball and 10 ball ladies WC. It will be mostly the same field, IMO, with a few more from the America's confederation, IMO, due to the promoter usually having a few wildcards.
Never said Allison wasn't a US player. What I did say was, if it really is 2 players per country, and Tkach and Fefilova are also considered US players, and they go by WPBA rankings, Allison is probably out. Not sure why everyone thinks this has to be patterned after something done in the past?
I agree the WPBA should be allowed a few players for being the host, but if what was posted on their facebook page is right, it's 2 players per country. Nobody's really going to know probably till the invites go out, that could be a bit, or then again maybe already has, ha ha.
I'm swinging by either way, it's only 35 min away from my summerhouse and I'll need a break from fishing.
I agree the WPBA should be allowed a few players for being the host, but if what was posted on their facebook page is right, it's 2 players per country. Nobody's really going to know probably till the invites go out, that could be a bit, or then again maybe already has, ha ha.
I'm swinging by either way, it's only 35 min away from my summerhouse and I'll need a break from fishing.
- You have to imagine theyโll use WPA rankings, not WPBA rankings.
- Iโm not seeing anything saying the selection process is two players per country. Do you have a link to anything suggesting that? I checked their Facebook page and didnโt see anything like that.
- I imagine theyโll have a whole tiered invite system. Iโm making this up but something like top 15 on WPA Rankings, then each continental federation gets 10, then the WPA itself can invite 5, then WPBA can invite 5, then the remainder follows the WPA rankings to fill the field.
- WPA will consider Kristina and Margaret as unaffiliated IOC athletes and not as US athletes. IOC criteria for country of representation requires citizenship. Theyโll certainly get invites somewhere in there.
- WPA rankings for USA go Allison, April, Savannah, Sofia, Kaylee, and on.
Stu, I always like your insight and you are spot on in making a difference being a realistic and being supportive. And I agree on the realistic part analysis that most champions were forged at a young age, but there are also players who have matured later. I think Pia Filler found a new gear in her mid 20s.
I always root for young upcoming players because when I was growing up as a young player you would hardly ever hear anything positive or supportive. There is a young kid in Lithuania who has just won Lithuanian U-17 division at the age of 8! Talking about starting young!
On wpba facebook where they posted the tmt anouncement Dec 16.
Denice Belinger posted that.