Wrapless- Scotch tape?

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I have been playing with a wrapped cue since I started playing but recently switched to a meucci and a Jacoby, and on my Meucci I have a small piece of scotch tape on the side with the red dot and it sits right at the balance point so I know where the ideal placement for my grip is.

I feel like it helps me I was just wondering if there are other tricks about using a wrapless and knowing where your hand is or if anyone does this as well?
 
I've seen cues with rubber bands, masking tape and pieces of rubber tubing or sleeve for grip point reminders.
 
you should try a removable rubber or silicon wrap used by carom players on the carom cues (which are almost always wrapless) .
( They are 28cm/30cm long, some are very light weight (0.4oz to 0.5oz) , some are heavier (1oz) . it's cheap )
Place it at the same place than your usual wraps. The feel will be different than leather or linen wraps, but the grip will be better. (but not 100% sure you'll like this feel. it's a different sensation).
how to install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2onarFkOyk
 
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jmf041 said:
I have been playing with a wrapped cue since I started playing but recently switched to a meucci and a Jacoby, and on my Meucci I have a small piece of scotch tape on the side with the red dot and it sits right at the balance point so I know where the ideal placement for my grip is.

I feel like it helps me I was just wondering if there are other tricks about using a wrapless and knowing where your hand is or if anyone does this as well?
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Karen Corr let me examine her wrapless McDaniel cue once. She had several , maybe 3, beads of clear finish as reference points for her hand placement. The but of her cue is remarkably thin.
 
While taking a lesson with Scott Lee he placed a ponytail rubber band on the butt of my cue. I later used some red pinstripping tape on my cue to replace it. I'm using a Predator SP with that red veneer on the points and it looks pretty good and matches up well.

Available in any auto parts store in a number of colors. This stuff stays stuck too. So add a colorful ring to your stick.
 
rubber wraps

Dear "erriep" and "jmf041"

Just a word of warning about the rubber grips billiard players use. I had a brand new Schuler wrapless cue. I had ordered it wrapless specifically so I could put the rubber grip on. I put the grip on and used the cue once. I put it into my most excellent cue case. My case is (was) a tube case, so that the shafts and the butt slid down into the case, as is usual with cases that don't open along their entire length. The next time I went to get my cue out of the case the rubber grip had made a perfect seal with the lining of the case! It was immovable. I had my neighbor's monster-strong, boxer son try to get it out. He failed. I finally had to use a tin snips to cut through the case. The case was a goner. The only damage to the cue was a fairly bad gash to the cocobolo joint. The rubber grip went in the trash.

I felt like an idiot. A week later one of the best players in the poolroom came up to me and said that he had a secret he wanted to confide to me, and that it made him feel really stupid. It seems he had gotten a rubber grip for his cue and put the butt into his case. I stopped him. "Let me guess," I said. "When you went to get the butt out the next time..." Of course I had hit the nail on the head! And he is a superb mechanic, lives on a farm, does his own repairs, and all that stuff, the opposite of me. But we both had been driven to the same solution.
 
Im not looking to put a rubber wrap on the cue. The burl on the jacoby is why I got the cue. And I was just looking to see if I was the only one that did this or if there are other tricks that people use, such as rubber bands strips of colored tape and the above mentioned.

I would be hesitant to put the wrap on anyway just out of my sheer paranoia I dont even change my own tips for that reason. If I mess up Im out a cue until I can get it fixed.
 
grip

I own 2 tables at home, and I move my grip depending on the length of shot. I play on a 9ft Gabriel with 4 1/4 pockets mostly. Then I switch to the barbox and shorten up my stroke some. :thumbup:
 
I have a piece of scotch tape on my old playing cue as a grip placement reference point. Works great.

I should put one on my current cue...
 
Tobermory said:
Dear "erriep" and "jmf041"

Just a word of warning about the rubber grips billiard players use. I had a brand new Schuler wrapless cue. I had ordered it wrapless specifically so I could put the rubber grip on. I put the grip on and used the cue once. I put it into my most excellent cue case. My case is (was) a tube case, so that the shafts and the butt slid down into the case, as is usual with cases that don't open along their entire length. The next time I went to get my cue out of the case the rubber grip had made a perfect seal with the lining of the case! It was immovable. I had my neighbor's monster-strong, boxer son try to get it out. He failed. I finally had to use a tin snips to cut through the case. The case was a goner. The only damage to the cue was a fairly bad gash to the cocobolo joint. The rubber grip went in the trash.

I felt like an idiot. A week later one of the best players in the poolroom came up to me and said that he had a secret he wanted to confide to me, and that it made him feel really stupid. It seems he had gotten a rubber grip for his cue and put the butt into his case. I stopped him. "Let me guess," I said. "When you went to get the butt out the next time..." Of course I had hit the nail on the head! And he is a superb mechanic, lives on a farm, does his own repairs, and all that stuff, the opposite of me. But we both had been driven to the same solution.
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hi Tobermory

oh yes, i forgot to mention this risk in my previous post. For me it's an evidence , since i'm basically a carom player (who likes pool too) , and of course I already tested the joy of tube cue cases ... my fault ...
of course, now i use butterfly cases . My last one , a 4x8 butterfly , was build by John barton with a special additional interior for my carom cues (a bit wider, with nylon inside . top notch i must say . but his standart interior work well enough ..) .

jmf041 said:
Im not looking to put a rubber wrap on the cue. The burl on the jacoby is why I got the cue. And I was just looking to see if I was the only one that did this or if there are other tricks that people use, such as rubber bands strips of colored tape and the above mentioned.

I would be hesitant to put the wrap on anyway just out of my sheer paranoia I dont even change my own tips for that reason. If I mess up Im out a cue until I can get it fixed.
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hi jmf041 .
About burls wood & silicon wraps : just a quick note to tell you than you can find transparent silicon wraps, the best are -IMHO- produced by Hanbat . Got one on my barenbrugge pool player , top notch. i could PM you pics of my cue if you are curious to see how a transparent carom wrap looks over a very rare & nice piece of wood...feel free to PM.

About the way to put kind of indexes on a wrapless cue to place the hand, my carom teacher was using pieces of scotch tape on the butts. Now, being older, I repeat this advice to our youngest carom newbies. (dunno why, but the older are the beginners , the more resistant to advices they seems to be :) hehe) . work well .

erriep
 
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Source?

Does anyone know if the
Hanbat silicone billiard grips
are supplied in the USA?

I know about Kozoom but
is there a source in the states?

Thanks

Joe
 
jmfo41...Since nobody else mentioned it, I will. The balance point on a cue has no bearing on the correct place for your grip hand. Also, holding the cue where it "feels best" may not be the correct place for your hand. The cue should be held where your hand falls directly under your elbow, when your tip is touching the CB. :grin:

Scott Lee
http:poolknowledge.com

jmf041 said:
on my Meucci I have a small piece of scotch tape on the side with the red dot and it sits right at the balance point so I know where the ideal placement for my grip is.
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3andstop said:
The best place for your hand is where it feels best.
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Scott Lee said:
jmfo41...Since nobody else mentioned it, I will. The balance point on a cue has no bearing on the correct place for your grip hand. Also, holding the cue where it "feels best" may not be the correct place for your hand. The cue should be held where your hand falls directly under your elbow, when your tip is touching the CB. :grin:

Scott Lee
http:poolknowledge.com
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Ive been told that. Where elbo is at 90* And when I first started playing I was gripping near the butt cap off the wrap of the cue and Ive found that even though balance point on every cue is different generally where the balance point is is where my elbow is at 90. Not for every shot of course.

As for the wrap, I really dont want a wrap on the cue I like the wraless feel its just a kind of comfort thing that the piece of tape is there for.
 
I have a little different question.

My break cue is a Mezz Power Break II and it is a wrapless cue, my playing cue is a Joss with Irish linen wrap (and I like that tipe of wrap). I don't like the feel of wrapless cue, because my hands go sweaty pretty hard, and I often play in pool rooms without air-conditioner, I feel uncomfortable without a wrap. I want to put on my break cue a tape to give me the best adherence.
What kind of type can you recommend to use so I can have the similar feel of a linen wrap (a textile feel)?
I don't want the rubber wraps or the feel of plastic. Of course the tape shouldn't damage the finish of the cue.

Thank you.
 
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I used to mark the balance point on my player. Not anymore though, just made me confused. No I place my hand where it feels right for the situation.

The break cue is another story. The break is a more isolated shot. I know where I put the cueball and have marked a specific spot where my middle finger goes on the cue for 9-ball and 10-ball. I mark them with see through plastic hole reinforcements, that makes them more or less invisible.
 
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