WTB: Meucci Originals
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I'll give my 2 cents, then I'm done with this. I'm not saying that the OP would be interested in a original gambler/hof4 but will use that particular model as an example. The mrsp on a new gambler is 608.00 or so and most billiard supply houses are selling them for around 500.00 So if some one is looking for this cue being a meucci original, 20 years old or older, and in mint condition. I would say 650.00 is a fair price. That being said you have 3 options: Cough up the money and buy the cue you want. Search flea bay and buy one that's beat up and send it to proficient billiards for a makeover, or take your own advice and buy a custom. I hope you wind up with a nice cue that your content with, but low balling people here isn't going to get you what you want........ or a decent rep here. I would say if you don't like somebody's price ask them "is that the best you"ll do" before offering them a few hundred less than their asking price. There are many good deals to be had on this forum but when you start talking about 20 plus year old cues (custom or production) in near mint condition they usually bring good money here. Good luck to the OP. I think flea bay and a refinish might be a more productive route.
I have seen what the Meucci Originals are going for. By the way people are asking 1k plus for a Meucci Original Gambler. I would be happy if I could get a mint condtion Gambler for 650. Also, if people could get the price they are asking they would have already sold them. When you go to buy a car do you pay what the dealer asks?
speaking of productive...
Given that you are now quite familiar with all of the "Meucci Originals" models, why not post the models you are interested in along with the price range you'd be willing to pay, if they met your condition requirements.
This would help to not waste either your time or that of potential sellers who might not have the right model or price you want.
Of course, this doesn't mean that you would have to buy it if one came along that met your parameters, but it certainly would help narrow the focus.
There are some well regarded forum members who have offered you advice and guidance on how to make things go a little better. At a certain point, it may not be too bad of an idea to heed some of the advice unless you simply want to be strongheaded and don't care about your rep.
Best,
Brian kc
Given that you are now quite familiar with all of the "Meucci Originals" models, why not post the models you are interested in along with the price range you'd be willing to pay, if they met your condition requirements.
This would help to not waste either your time or that of potential sellers who might not have the right model or price you want.
Of course, this doesn't mean that you would have to buy it if one came along that met your parameters, but it certainly would help narrow the focus.
There are some well regarded forum members who have offered you advice and guidance on how to make things go a little better. At a certain point, it may not be too bad of an idea to heed some of the advice unless you simply want to be strongheaded and don't care about your rep.
Best,
Brian kc
OK kids, lets look at what we've learned on this thread.
1. This has got to be the most inane thread ever started.
2. The selling process of offer/counter offer has gone out the window.
3. The new process is now offer/slap in the face or offer/is this your best price/offer them half of that.
Given that, I hear the Smithsonian financials aren't all that great so I'm going to offer them 1 million for the Hope diamond.
If that doesn't make George's eyeballs pop out I don't know what will.
My personal favorite when I've got a muscle car for sale is when I'm asked "What's the least you'll take for it", because I know where this is going. So I'll tack $5000 on to my asking price. I mean how cheap can you get to ask the least price then offer $2000 less.
I don't know about the rest of you but I wouldn't sell a cue to a person like that much less the chalk dust off my table.
I'll break a cue in half before selling it to some NIT. That's only because I'm to lazy to clean up the mess after I've broken them in half.
JMHO
1. This has got to be the most inane thread ever started.
2. The selling process of offer/counter offer has gone out the window.
3. The new process is now offer/slap in the face or offer/is this your best price/offer them half of that.
Given that, I hear the Smithsonian financials aren't all that great so I'm going to offer them 1 million for the Hope diamond.
If that doesn't make George's eyeballs pop out I don't know what will.
My personal favorite when I've got a muscle car for sale is when I'm asked "What's the least you'll take for it", because I know where this is going. So I'll tack $5000 on to my asking price. I mean how cheap can you get to ask the least price then offer $2000 less.
I don't know about the rest of you but I wouldn't sell a cue to a person like that much less the chalk dust off my table.
I'll break a cue in half before selling it to some NIT. That's only because I'm to lazy to clean up the mess after I've broken them in half.
JMHO
Well, I have a family member that posts here who offered nice original for a fair price. A price that I believe if the cue was listed here would sell in one to three days and the OP made two rediculous offers. If he decided he wanted that cue now for the original asking price it is "no longer available" 
If Dippy was in on this he would've bought the guy a cue by now just to make him go away!
If Dippy was in on this he would've bought the guy a cue by now just to make him go away!
In a pm to me after my last post in this thread, CueMagic asked me to again send him pictures of a spectacular OL-1 I had offered him at a helluva price (this was a while back). In the same pm he asked if I would help him out by giving him green rep because he had been painted red.
I reminded him that the pics had been emailed over a week ago and I chose not to resend them. The cue is no longer available for sale.
CueMagic also mentioned in yesterday's pm that a Meucci collector was in touch with him and offered to sell a number of rare, mint, unused, Meucci Originals to him at what he said was a very fair price. I didn't respond but I will now.
Why didn't you buy one?
Best,
Brian kc
I reminded him that the pics had been emailed over a week ago and I chose not to resend them. The cue is no longer available for sale.
CueMagic also mentioned in yesterday's pm that a Meucci collector was in touch with him and offered to sell a number of rare, mint, unused, Meucci Originals to him at what he said was a very fair price. I didn't respond but I will now.
Why didn't you buy one?
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Brian kc
You want the rarest one's at under $400 in pristine condition?
I didn't say I wanted the rarest one for 400. When you make an offer you always start out low. You can always go up, but not go down once you make an offer. I will pay more for the rare ones. Remember these are Meucci's we are talking about and not custom cues. This is a down market and people are not getting what cues are worth. I have seen what the Originals have been going for on ebay and my offers are not that far out of line.
CueMagic pm to me this afternoon:
Meucci Orignals - Today, 02:51 PM
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Brian, thank you for putting all my business out on the street. I am planning on buying one from the guy. He has several rare Meucci Originals with two shafts in 100 percent condtion and signed by Robert Meucci. He has so many that is just a matter of picking the one that I want. His cues are much rarer than the OL-1 you have. There are alot of OL-1 cues out there. Your cue is very nice, but I have a better offer. Thank you for the pictures you sent. I got so many pictures I lost track of who sent me what. Since you think you are offering such a great deal on your OL-1. Put it on AZ or Ebay and we will see how quickly it sells. You know so much about Meucci Originals. Yet you didn't even know the model number you had. END PM
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First, kindly do not send any more pm's my way. Thank you.
Regarding the gentleman who has all of the rare mint Meucci Originals for sale at great prices, I will again ask, why haven't you pulled the trigger and bought one. Is it really that there's too many for you to choose from?
More importantly, if you already have such a vast resource in place to get your cue, and you say you have made the decision to buy from him, why do continue bumping this thread like your search is still underway?
As for your condescension over my not knowing which model Meucci Original I had, and inferring that I held myself out as being very knowledgable on them, please go back through our correspondence and see if you can find where I made any such claim.
What I did tell you was that it is very easy to match up which model it is with the pictures I sent you and that I simply didn't have the free minute to do it right then.
That's all.
Best,
Brian kc
Meucci Orignals - Today, 02:51 PM
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Brian, thank you for putting all my business out on the street. I am planning on buying one from the guy. He has several rare Meucci Originals with two shafts in 100 percent condtion and signed by Robert Meucci. He has so many that is just a matter of picking the one that I want. His cues are much rarer than the OL-1 you have. There are alot of OL-1 cues out there. Your cue is very nice, but I have a better offer. Thank you for the pictures you sent. I got so many pictures I lost track of who sent me what. Since you think you are offering such a great deal on your OL-1. Put it on AZ or Ebay and we will see how quickly it sells. You know so much about Meucci Originals. Yet you didn't even know the model number you had.
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First, kindly do not send any more pm's my way. Thank you.
Regarding the gentleman who has all of the rare mint Meucci Originals for sale at great prices, I will again ask, why haven't you pulled the trigger and bought one. Is it really that there's too many for you to choose from?
More importantly, if you already have such a vast resource in place to get your cue, and you say you have made the decision to buy from him, why do continue bumping this thread like your search is still underway?
As for your condescension over my not knowing which model Meucci Original I had, and inferring that I held myself out as being very knowledgable on them, please go back through our correspondence and see if you can find where I made any such claim.
What I did tell you was that it is very easy to match up which model it is with the pictures I sent you and that I simply didn't have the free minute to do it right then.
That's all.
Best,
Brian kc
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I will pay more than 400. There is a guy that has a collection of Meucci Originals. All of his cues are in 100 percent condition with two shafts and signed by Robert Meucci. His prices are very good and I will buy from him. I dont understand why people are so worried about what my offer is. If you dont like what I offer you dont have to except it. Its my money and I can offer what I please. Some of the cues that I am looking for are 88-6, Locksmith, Acorn Cue, Star of David, Torch Cue, Gambler, JR3, JR5, 88-4B, 88-4 E, 88-5B, 88-5E, 88-7, MS-4S
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Oh...I got a PM too. I will post this, only because it is the first time I have seen what models he is looking for...
Last response here, and please no more PMs, either.
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I will pay more than 400. There is a guy that has a collection of Meucci Originals. All of his cues are in 100 percent condition with two shafts and signed by Robert Meucci. His prices are very good and I will buy from him. I dont understand why people are so worried about what my offer is. If you dont like what I offer you dont have to except it. Its my money and I can offer what I please. Some of the cues that I am looking for are 88-6, Locksmith, Acorn Cue, Star of David, Torch Cue, Gambler, JR3, JR5, 88-4B, 88-4 E, 88-5B, 88-5E, 88-7, MS-4S
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Oh...I got a PM too. I will post this, only because it is the first time I have seen what models he is looking for...
Last response here, and please no more PMs, either.
Thanks,
Jon
Yup, I see for some of you we all got the same PM. At least we know that he can copy and paste. ROFL
I wonder how many of those that got this PM also got a red make on their rep., I know I did. It might mean something if it was from someone on here worth a hoot.
CueMagic
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I bet dollars to doughnuts I get another red mark for this reply.
I wonder how many of those that got this PM also got a red make on their rep., I know I did. It might mean something if it was from someone on here worth a hoot.
CueMagic
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I bet dollars to doughnuts I get another red mark for this reply.
Just rec'd my red rep from CueMagic telling me "mind your business you nit".
This is coming from the guy who won't stop pestering people with his pm's.
What a case.
Best,
Brian kc
This is coming from the guy who won't stop pestering people with his pm's.
What a case.
Best,
Brian kc
Brian, its amazing how you defend me in one post. Then after you send me a picture of your Meucci Original and I an not interested in buying it. Then you get your feelings hurt and start to belittle me in future posts.
Brian, its amazing how you defend me in one post. Then after you send me a picture of your Meucci Original and I an not interested in buying it. Then you get your feelings hurt and start to belittle me in future posts.
Okay, funny guy, for the record:
I thought you were being treated unfairly in this thread when I posted what you quoted me on in post 117. And so yes, I did come to your defense. Noble gesture, don't you think?
However, soon after my defending you, it became very obvious that your detractors were right, you were just wasting people's time with your 'let's see what you got' then lowballing them with ridiculous offers.
Regarding your comment that my feelings became hurt because you weren't interested in buying my cue, well, that's rich.
As of just yesterday you were asking me for more pictures because you were supposedly still inteerested and, do you remember what happened next?
Right, I wasn't interested in corresponding with you further about it. In fact, another forum member and I commented to each other how neither of us would sell you our Meucci Originals for a g-note if you wanted them, given how you have conducted yourself here.
If your goal now is to try and discredit me because I'm calling it how I see it, you're going to have a bit of an uphill battle.
Reputation is something you earn over time on az. In the very short while that you've been here, I see you have been locking horns with some well regarded forum members, and not just on this thread.
I think there's a real good chance that you're just one of those special people who enjoys stirring the pot.
Good luck with your comprehensive Meucci Originals search.
Best,
Brian kc
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By this time you have a fair idea of what you want. Why not post model numbers, desired condition and the price you are willing to pay. Of course you might encounter deafening silence, but at least you'll know where you stand.
I have a couple of Meucci originals that I would consider selling but I refuse to participate in "Show me what ya got ...". That gets old real quick!
I have a couple of Meucci originals that I would consider selling but I refuse to participate in "Show me what ya got ...". That gets old real quick!
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