WTF! 27oz break cue!

TheNewSharkster

TheNewSharkster

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It sounds like a bit of overkill. Has anyone used it?


http://www.pooldawg.com/product/elite-heavy-27oz-banned-break-cue


"We hear it over and over again. Pool players always want to know how to get a stronger break. They want more power and more action. If you can handle it, the answer for you may just be the new Elite "Heavy" Break Cue. This new breaker generates power through its massive weight. Rather than weighing just 20oz or 21oz, the Heavy weighs in at approximately 27oz, making it one of the heaviest breakers on the market. The weight is only part of the story. The cue also features a phenolic tip and ferrule giving it more power than a standard leather tip. The wood pin is actually built into the shaft, giving the Heavy not only superior power but also unprecedented feel for a break cue. It should be noted that this cue is not for everyone. Some leagues have banned this break cue, as it exceed their maximum weight restrictions. Also, keep in mind that if your ball comes off the table, it is a foul so you will need to have control to go along with the power of your break."
 
My APA team captain breaks with a 26 oz. break cue that he had custom made from one piece of laminated wood (Bacote I think) with a phenolic tip. He breaks okay with it but doesn't control whitey very well and flies it off the table quite often.
 
I think Robert Byrne wrote about heavier break cues and how the added weight doesn't usually give you more cueball speed on the break. A lighter cue can be moved faster and most people will break harder with it. I believe its in his Advanced Principles book.

Some old timers who medium stroke their breaks might get some use out of a 27 oz break cue but I think most young players would lose power.
 
a lot of people recomend using the same weight playing cue as a break cue. i would think it would just make for a very inaccurate break with that thing. i guess if your not after accuracy it would be usefull.
 
TheNewSharkster said:
It sounds like a bit of overkill. Has anyone used it?


http://www.pooldawg.com/product/elite-heavy-27oz-banned-break-cue


"We hear it over and over again. Pool players always want to know how to get a stronger break. They want more power and more action. If you can handle it, the answer for you may just be the new Elite "Heavy" Break Cue. This new breaker generates power through its massive weight. Rather than weighing just 20oz or 21oz, the Heavy weighs in at approximately 27oz, making it one of the heaviest breakers on the market. The weight is only part of the story. The cue also features a phenolic tip and ferrule giving it more power than a standard leather tip. The wood pin is actually built into the shaft, giving the Heavy not only superior power but also unprecedented feel for a break cue. It should be noted that this cue is not for everyone. Some leagues have banned this break cue, as it exceed their maximum weight restrictions. Also, keep in mind that if your ball comes off the table, it is a foul so you will need to have control to go along with the power of your break."
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seems like it wants you to break softer with it. :D

IMO, this cue is ideal for people with extremely weak break shot.
 
hangemhigh said:
Lighter = faster ,harder break. A heavy break cue is useless.
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If that were true wouldn't people be mostly breaking with 17oz cue? I understand the lighter the weight the more speed you can generate, probably similar to baseball players using a corked bat to generate more power, but does this translate into a pool cue?

Personally I use a 19oz and with a full solid stoke I can break the balls very nicely.

As a disclaimer I wouldn't touch that thing. I would be curious to hear from people who have tried it though :)
 
Me myself 6'4" 270ish .......I prefer a light 17-18.5oz cue for breaking.....I used to be a firm beleiver in the heavy cue.....Its all about Cue Speed..
 
I break at about 75% of my potential but make sure I hit the head ball dead on. Seems to work for me and I have found that using a break cue similar in weight to my playing cue is the way to go.
 
I thought the legal weight limit was 25oz??

My break cue is the same weight as my playing cue, tried a heavier break cue recently and i couldn't get used to it at all.
 
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The BCA rules state that 25 oz. cues are the heaviest that can be used. Anything over that would be disqualified for use.
 
College baseball players can get more bat speed with a lighter aluminum bat than a wooden bat, and can generate more speed and power with this.

Same as a cue, to a point. Mike Gulyassy with his Sledgehammer cue recommends using a cue slightly lighter than your playing cue.

For me, do what works; this is why you see pro players breaking from all over the place until they find what works on the table they are shooting on until they get the desired results.
 
My friend breaks with a 25 or 26 oz cue and it's great, I've used it and loved it but I'll stick with my 21 break cue.
 
TheNewSharkster said:
If that were true wouldn't people be mostly breaking with 17oz cue? I understand the lighter the weight the more speed you can generate, probably similar to baseball players using a corked bat to generate more power, but does this translate into a pool cue?

Personally I use a 19oz and with a full solid stoke I can break the balls very nicely.

As a disclaimer I wouldn't touch that thing. I would be curious to hear from people who have tried it though :)
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i use a 17 oz break cue and crush em. just this sunday playing 9-ball my top break on an olhausen 8' was 5 balls including the 9. my hi is 6 and i avg 1-2. everyone that has tried it, after ajusting to the light weight, loves it.
 
I use a 24 oz. break cue that i bought from voodoo daddy in 1980. Us old schoolers used heavier cues and then people switched to the lighter cue. I never felt a need. I love it, for what I lack in strength the cue does for me. It doesn't matter what weight you use, if you don't follow through it won't work.
 
we have a couple of these in stock at the poolhall where i work. hard to control and when you make solid contact with the cueball the shaft feels like it is going to give out/break. most of the players (4 out of 5) who tried this break cue had similar comments. imo i would pass on one.
 
Gregg said:
College baseball players can get more bat speed with a lighter aluminum bat than a wooden bat, and can generate more speed and power with this.

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This being true then why aren't break cues made out of aluminum?
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Comes down to whether you can generate your own force/speed.

If your generally 'strong' than a lighter weight you can 'throw' faster.

If you can't generate any real force/speed then the extra weight would surely help maintain inertia thu the CB.

For example , we have an older lady on our team. I can hit a left handed , one hand draw harder than she can break , as hard as she can try. :) She most definately generates more power thru the CB with the 22oz she breaks with than her 18oz player , altho she sure isn't throwing it any harder or faster. ;)
 
I've also got a couple in our poolroom. I tried one. At first I liked it...great action unless you still try to hit hard. The tip makes it hard to control so you HAVE to hit soft. Pretty good spreads though with 8-ball and 9-ball racks with a medium speed break. HOWEVER! The thing is falling apart after maybe a dozen breaks. The joint collar is loose and the shaft has got more wobble than a Meucci!!!

Myself...I'll stick with my cheapo 19 oz Cuetec with a Bungee tip. Just my 0.02.
 
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