WTF! 27oz break cue!

hangemhigh said:
Lighter = faster ,harder break. A heavy break cue is useless.
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Not so. From the posts already, a lot of people use a heavier cue. I have a 24 oz. Joss "Boss" that I bought years ago that I can break well with. I've known quite a few players over the years who used a heavier cue to break with. My Joss warped, though, I think they had a tendency to do that and that's why Dan Janes stopped making them. I currently break with a 1970s Adam "Steve Mizerak", 19 oz. I go back to the Joss once in a while and don't have any problem.
 
I guess a lot of people here forgot the relationship of mass to speed. and force created. not to mention energy transferred.

I believe that some posters only considered the amount of energy generated from the CB going to the OBs and completely forgot about the amount of force coming from the cue.

according to my scientific (physics) knowledge, a heavy cue does add power.
 
socks said:
i use a 17 oz break cue and crush em. just this sunday playing 9-ball my top break on an olhausen 8' was 5 balls including the 9. my hi is 6 and i avg 1-2. everyone that has tried it, after ajusting to the light weight, loves it.
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I suggest that you try both 17 oz and 27 oz playing 8-ball on a 9 footer. and see if there is any significant difference.
 
I Play "russian billiards" with 27 oz cue.

Tryed to break with this cue in 9 ball!

No control at all!

U cant do fast move with heavy stick!

17 oz its perfect!
 
hangemhigh said:
Lighter = faster ,harder break. A heavy break cue is useless.
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negative.

the key thing with break cue weight is your body type. if you are big and bulky and not so nimble then a heavy break cue is better. because the weight makes it easier to generate momentum. but if you are small and light you'll probably find it easier to stroke a light cue really fast.

lighter ISN'T always better.
 
I took the weight out of one of my McDermotts, which dropped it down to about 15 or 15.5 oz (originally 19oz) I love it! For breaking & playing.
 
cajunbarboxplyr said:
Me myself 6'4" 270ish .......I prefer a light 17-18.5oz cue for breaking.....I used to be a firm beleiver in the heavy cue.....Its all about Cue Speed..
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I would think a 27 oz. break cue would be light for you. If you could move it fast like most can move an 18 oz cue then you have the best of both worlds. Speed and mass.
 
But thats the thing.........I tried "Heavy to me" break cues. From 21"-24"oz......I actually hate the feel of a heavy cue..........My Varney that is being made is 18.5 if I remember correctly........I play with a light cue.. More control and feel IMO....Breaking is hte same way for me......I dont try to break like a cannon but I try to break hard enough to get the balls moving and my cueball squatin!!

I know many a player in my area who tries to have the hardest break they end up chasing cueballs all over the bar.......I used to fly cueballs all the time cause all I wanted to do was break hard........but as I learned the game. I found my biggest weakness was my break cause obviously.. I was flying the CB off.........So I worked on my break............not trying to shatter the rack.....

It will all go down to a Each their own perspective....Me i prefer a Light Break cue....gimmie a 18.oz cue any dat to break!
 
Control of the Rock is lost due to the strong momentum generated by the heavy cue on the CB . remember that the pool balls (including the CB) are of the same mass and the cue's mass is not.
 
I have a 32oz cue at home. I don't use it to shoot with, but I do practice stroking with it when I don't have the time to practice. Helps with muscle memory/coordination. Funny, because nobody would be able to tell if they watched me play:rolleyes: . I still miss to much! :D
 
I've got a Varney that's a shade under 22oz. that I love, but I use it exclusively on an 8-foot table- I'd go a couple/few oz. lighter if I were playing on a 9-footer, I think.
 
I shot with a guy on league who had a 27 with a hard leather tip. He swore by it and everyone seemed to want to use it. For me it was like swinging a telephone pole. The extra weight didn't seem to do anything for me.
Best 9 ball break ever was 6 balls, whitey in the middle 9 ducked up in the corner, with a cuetec puthon with the stock layered hard leather tip. The only problem with that cue is that its fiberglass shaft gets really sticky when it's humid.
I use the Jerico stinger now, it's a shade over 19 and I love it all year round.

Banger
 
softshot said:
an effective break is the result of aim and precision.. not weight or power...
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Actually it is a combination of both. Why do you think golfer do a lot of weight lifting? Yes, some golfers can hit 300 yards when they are 13, and most of the power they generate is based on a proper swing but to go any longer it will take more muscle.
 
Snapshot9 said:
The BCA rules state that 25 oz. cues are the heaviest that can be used. Anything over that would be disqualified for use.
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I've never played in a BCA sponsored event; only tournaments at pool halls. They don't have anybody checking out the equipment, at least I've never seen it.

I have a specially modified shaft with a phenolic tip on it, along with a 5/16 inch hardwood dowel for the handle that would meet the requirements of the BCA rules for a cue. People always ask about that "handle" and I tell them the cue is over 40" long, so it's legal. Legal according to the BCA, that is. Switch to the APA or something else, and who knows what the verdict would be.

Anyway, I say if 27 ounces cooks your goose, go with it.

Flex
 
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Flex said:
I've never played in a BCA sponsored event; only tournaments at pool halls. They don't have anybody checking out the equipment, at least I've never seen it.

I have a specially modified shaft with a phenolic tip on it, along with a 5/16 inch hardwood dowel for the handle that would meet the requirements of the BCA rules for a cue. People always ask about that "handle" and I tell them the cue is over 40" long, so it's legal. Legal according to the BCA, that is. Switch to the APA or something else, and who knows what the verdict would be.

Anyway, I say let if 27 ounces cooks your goose, go with it.

Flex
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I was thinking about that as well. Not to say I would cheat but if you used this stick in BCA who is going to call a foul for having a cue that is over the weight restriction? Even at higher levels I am not sure this sort of thing is checked.

Of course a BCA official might be able to spot the cue after reading a thread like this.........:eek: :D
 
TheNewSharkster said:
I was thinking about that as well. Not to say I would cheat but if you used this stick in BCA who is going to call a foul for having a cue that is over the weight restriction? Even at higher levels I am not sure this sort of thing is checked.

Of course a BCA official might be able to spot the cue after reading a thread like this.........:eek: :D
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How is it "cheating" if there's no official, enforced rule in an other-than-BCA event? The rule is only valid if it is enforced. I do know the IPT enforced it's rules on pool cues, but where's it today?

As for making a cue heavier, it's a cinch. Just take out the weight bolts and fill that hole with lead... Just don't drop it on your foot!

Flex
 
Flex said:
How is it "cheating" if there's no official, enforced rule in an other-than-BCA event? The rule is only valid if it is enforced. I do know the IPT enforced it's rules on pool cues, but where's it today?

As for making a cue heavier, it's a cinch. Just take out the weight bolts and fill that hole with lead... Just don't drop it on your foot!

Flex
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Thats like saying if a tree falls in the woods it doesn't make a noise :)

I do agree to a certain extent though. BCA shouldn't expect people to follow a rule that isn't enforced. I am curious about APA now. I play in APA and am not aware of a rule like this. Let me check the manual.

I love slow days at work :p
 
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