You MUST do this to fix pool

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CenterTable

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Many many threads on why pool is dying........ I won't get into what leagues have done to pool (I'm dead against them). Let's not discuss that.

Here is something that MUST be done......

Pool must synchronize it's tournament schedule. You must make it EASY for all pros to attend pro tournaments. It requires the collaboration of many different countries.

The US Open, Derby City, and Turning Stone are all within about 10 hours of driving from each other.

You should have these tournaments all at the same time of year. Once the US Open ends, have Derby City start the next week. And so on.....

This way, the pros don't have to travel back and forth across the world.

You get the idea.... And it must be done.
 
The real problem is that players go to A "big" tournament like Turning Stone, play all week against the best talent in America and the winner makes a paltry $8000. Talk about wasting time.
 
Never happen.

The fact you think it is even possible tells me you have no idea about what goes into producing these events.

Promoters dont just pull dates out of thin air and do something whenever they want.

Ask Allen Hopkins how that works. He built one of the largest events in the world and had to move everything. Location, dates everything.Not by his choosing. Same thing happened to Derby. Hell the Seminole Tour is at the mercy of the Hard Rock scheduling for when they can do the Mizerak. Promoters may get to pick a 6 or 8 week window at best and sometimes not even that.

A cohesive schedule sounds good on paper but at the end of the day a plane ride is a plane ride. Some are just an hour or two longer than others.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that there are still people that thinks pool (I'm assuming we're talking "professional" pool here) can or will ever be "fixed". It ain't gonna happen in my lifetime, and I doubt that it will ever happen. Heck, in ten or twenty years, I doubt this AZBilliards website will still be around (Of course the CTE argument will go on 'til the end of mankind ;)). Pool is what it is, and what it is is a recreational game/sport like table-tennis, or badmitten, or volleyball, etc.,only with equipment costs that border on ridiculous.

Nothing will change until the "image" of the game changes. The image of the game won't change until the players and their bad habits change. Do you see that happening? I don't.

Just my humble opinion.

Maniac (playing hours of pool weekly for the pure FUN of it)
 
CenterTable...Heck of a first post. To bad you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You gonna have them drive to the Phillipines too? LMAO I suppose the pro events in Las Vegas should be scheduled according to your whims too? Too bad you don't like leagues...they are here to stay. Another "leagues have killed pool" turkey...without leagues there would be little pool at all, whether you like it or not.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

CenterTable said:
Many many threads on why pool is dying........ I won't get into what leagues have done to pool (I'm dead against them). Let's not discuss that.

Here is something that MUST be done......

Pool must synchronize it's tournament schedule. You must make it EASY for all pros to attend pro tournaments. It requires the collaboration of many different countries.

The US Open, Derby City, and Turning Stone are all within about 10 hours of driving from each other.

You should have these tournaments all at the same time of year. Once the US Open ends, have Derby City start the next week. And so on.....

This way, the pros don't have to travel back and forth across the world.

You get the idea.... And it must be done.
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Scott Lee said:
CenterTable...Heck of a first post. To bad you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You gonna have them drive to the Phillipines too? LMAO I suppose the pro events in Las Vegas should be scheduled according to your whims too? Too bad you don't like leagues...they are here to stay. Another "leagues have killed pool" turkey...without leagues there would be little pool at all, whether you like it or not.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Yeah leagues have had a positive impact on allot of people I know. They have their problems like anything else but overall i think they are good for the game. They get allot of people that would have been strictly recreational players and helped develop them and encouraged them to become better and more serious about the game.

As far as the scheduling goes, it sounds nice on the surface but is ultimately unrealistic.
 
Cdryden said:
Yeah leagues have had a positive impact on allot of people I know. They have their problems like anything else but overall i think they are good for the game. They get allot of people that would have been strictly recreational players and helped develop them and encouraged them to become better and more serious about the game.

As far as the scheduling goes, it sounds nice on the surface but is ultimately unrealistic.
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I see leagues as steps to breed new players and by players, I mean tournament players. Most of them just show up for socializing and recreational pool but I'm sure we can get a few in the bunch who would be interested to discover other facets of competitive pool*.
 
CenterTable, I would like to hear your thoughts on leagues, you sound like I guy I used to see on this forum. :D
 
I think Leagues are good for Pool Rooms, Sports Bar, & Bars with pool Tables, as they bring people to the sport. I think in some places there are too many League operating in a single venue, or city. Thus some of the league players are constantly switching from league to league looking for a better league.

I think Pool could have strength if all Pool be it armature or pro level were run by one group like the NFL, or MLB licenses those sports.

NFL, and MLB even licenses little kids sports, and are building the next generation of player, and fans.
 
CenterTable said:
Many many threads on why pool is dying........ I won't get into what leagues have done to pool (I'm dead against them). Let's not discuss that.

Here is something that MUST be done......

Pool must synchronize it's tournament schedule. You must make it EASY for all pros to attend pro tournaments. It requires the collaboration of many different countries.

The US Open, Derby City, and Turning Stone are all within about 10 hours of driving from each other.

You should have these tournaments all at the same time of year. Once the US Open ends, have Derby City start the next week. And so on.....

This way, the pros don't have to travel back and forth across the world.

You get the idea.... And it must be done.
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Something similar was done like 30 years ago. I was involved in promoting one of the tournaments. The players just burnt out and ran out of expense money. The first tournament was full field, by the 4th tournaments I had 16 paid entries the night before the tournament. 5 or 6 consecutive weeks out on the road going to one tournament after another can not be handled by most pros. Many work by the way and most of the money is top end anyway so except for the very very best, it is a losing deal for the players.
 
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macguy...Leave it to you to post the RATIONAL answer...and of course be right too)! No doubt PocketPoint will have some snappy comeback about how sponsors are responsible for paying the pros way! :rolleyes: :grin: Good post!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

macguy said:
Something similar was done like 30 years ago. I was involved in promoting one of the tournaments. The players just burnt out and ran out of expense money. The first tournament was full field, by the 4th tournaments I had 16 paid entries the night before the tournament. 5 or 6 consecutive weeks out on the road going to one tournament after another can not be handled by most pros. Many work by the way and most of the money is top end anyway so except for the very very best, it is a losing deal for the players.
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Now don’t get a swollen head there PP/SavePool/CenterTable, but around the time of pp3 or pp4 I started playing in a weekly tournament due in part to your rants and I have to say that I’m really enjoying the evenings. Hell, I have even played my first money games. Without the team around I feel more personal responsibility, and the lure of the payoff keeps me coming back. I still love league night, but thanks for the forceful suggestions to get me out to the tourneys. BTW, the tournament is on barboxes while my CPA night is played out on a 9’.
 
I like to think the reasoning behind the new name went a little something like this... "I need something nobody will suspect is me... what's the furthest I can get from PocketPoint... AHA! Center Table... literally the furthest point from any given pocket and those confounding points..."

You were doing well up until the part where you made a "saving pool" thread with reference to league hating.
 
sammylane12 said:
The real problem is that players go to A "big" tournament like Turning Stone, play all week against the best talent in America and the winner makes a paltry $8000. Talk about wasting time.
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That's 2-3 months salary for the average American.
 
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