"you shoot to slow"
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"thats why people don't want to gamble with you." How would you like to be told this 3 shots into a ONE POCKET match with a player that you "DID" have respect for and in a game that u r the stone cold underdog in. Hey, I want to get better and the only way to do so is play people better than you. Which usually means you are taking the worst of it since you are paying to "LEARN SOMETHING" from this individual.(I guess that is the idea that some people have).Well, what's going to be going thru your head after you are told this?I guess I am too weak minded to not let this affect me.But I did learn a valuable lesson,will never bother with said player again. From a person who talks about other people sharking, I just can't believe this would happen. Thats life in the POOL WORLD I guess.
If I feel that I need to bring a book for *while* I'm playing, then it's too slow.
Why are you getting all bent out of shape for being told that you play slowly? There was one person in particular in league that I absolutely hated playing, because the person took up to a minute on each shot, including the easy ones. If you're playing 1P and still being told that you're too slow.. well.. that says a lot.
So, in retrospect.. if I let you in on the fact that people don't want to play with you because you're so slow, then you get upset about it, I wouldn't want to play with you either.
"thats why people don't want to gamble with you." How would you like to be told this 3 shots into a ONE POCKET match with a player that you "DID" have respect for and in a game that u r the stone cold underdog in. Hey, I want to get better and the only way to do so is play people better than you. Which usually means you are taking the worst of it since you are paying to "LEARN SOMETHING" from this individual.(I guess that is the idea that some people have).Well, what's going to be going thru your head after you are told this?I guess I am too weak minded to not let this affect me.But I did learn a valuable lesson,will never bother with said player again. From a person who talks about other people sharking, I just can't believe this would happen. Thats life in the POOL WORLD I guess.
LOL, next time ask if he wants to quit and pay for the set.
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Heh, or you could use chess clocks.. players can each pay for their own time used.
I would inform him that when being tailgated that I slowly ease off the gas; but that’s just how I approach life, and just chuckle and continue to play. Don’t get bent out of shape use this to your advantage it is a weakness of his that he has told you about, why not use it?
I don't play one pocket but I've seen enough of it to know it's not for me. I watched a couple of matches that were streamed and to me it was like watching paint dry.That being said I've played my share of people who intentionally slow play you to death. I'm talking 3 to 5 minutes to shoot in a straight in shot. I played one girl in a nine ball tournament that took us an hour and 45 minutes to play 9 games on a bar box. It bottle necked the whole side of the bracket. Then the guy running the tournament comes up to me and says we need to get my match over. I'd love to play in a tournament just once with a shot clock.
The reason not to do that is that no one will play with you after the first bad experience. If that's not a problem for the OP, it's not a problem for me, unless I have to play them in a tournament. Then I'll be looking for a shot clock.
With this type of comment, there are two possibilities: a) it's true, and b) it's not true. If a), then you've just been given some valuable input on your style--if you really are a slow player, what if anything are you going to do about it? I for one would want to know. If b) is the case, why get bent out of shape? If the speaker is overly picky or is sharking you, don't take it personally, especially if he's a better shooter and you're only playing him to learn the game. Just ignore the comment and go on with the game."thats why people don't want to gamble with you." How would you like to be told this 3 shots into a ONE POCKET match with a player that you "DID" have respect for and in a game that u r the stone cold underdog in. Hey, I want to get better and the only way to do so is play people better than you. Which usually means you are taking the worst of it since you are paying to "LEARN SOMETHING" from this individual.(I guess that is the idea that some people have).Well, what's going to be going thru your head after you are told this?I guess I am too weak minded to not let this affect me.But I did learn a valuable lesson,will never bother with said player again. From a person who talks about other people sharking, I just can't believe this would happen. Thats life in the POOL WORLD I guess.
If you made mistake after mistake it wouldn't be a problem.
When I came back playing, after a five year layoff, I played slow,and missed regularly. Then I started getting out. That's when the problem started. I was playing to slow. Same guy same pace. It was my getting out they didn't like.
Keep doing what your doing. Don't take forever but play at your pace.
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When I came back playing, after a five year layoff, I played slow,and missed regularly. Then I started getting out. That's when the problem started. I was playing to slow. Same guy same pace. It was my getting out they didn't like.
Keep doing what your doing. Don't take forever but play at your pace.
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To the OP...Here's another way to look at it. Quit gambling with this nit. Find a BETTER 1 pocket player, and PAY them for a playing lesson. You won't get an attitude, like this jerk, and you'll learn a whole lot more.
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"thats why people don't want to gamble with you." How would you like to be told this 3 shots into a ONE POCKET match with a player that you "DID" have respect for and in a game that u r the stone cold underdog in. Hey, I want to get better and the only way to do so is play people better than you. Which usually means you are taking the worst of it since you are paying to "LEARN SOMETHING" from this individual.(I guess that is the idea that some people have).Well, what's going to be going thru your head after you are told this?I guess I am too weak minded to not let this affect me.But I did learn a valuable lesson,will never bother with said player again. From a person who talks about other people sharking, I just can't believe this would happen. Thats life in the POOL WORLD I guess.
IMO, brechbt has the best advice in this thread. You are either legitimately slow, or the player you played against is too picky. Is it true of his statement to you "that's why people don't want to gamble with you"? Most people don't want to play overly slow players. If you legitimately have trouble matching up with many players, than perhaps this player was correct about you. If on the other hand, this player thinks everyone is slow (like Earl does), then don't worry about it.
But rather than be mad at the guy and never play him again, you should evaluate the criticism he gave you. Even though it was not made in a polite manner, it is feedback on your game. Choose to do with that feedback whatever you like...
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I don't think that ever crossed his mind, because I reread and it totally reminded me of somebody that I know.
"thats why people don't want to gamble with you."
a player that you "DID" have respect for
in a game that u r the stone cold underdog in.
get better and the only way to do so is play people better than you.
taking the worst of it
paying to "LEARN SOMETHING" from this individual.
(I guess that is the idea that some people have)
Well, what's going to be going thru your head after you are told this?
too weak minded to not let this affect me.
a valuable lesson,will never bother with said player again.
From a person who talks about other people sharking, I just can't believe this would happen.
Thats life in the POOL WORLD I guess.
After rereading a couple of times, nearly the entire post stands out as one big excuse. Can't get better playing anybody but better players? Consider a comment on your slow play to be sharking? Excuses, negativity.. surefire way to go nowhere fast(or slow, in your case.. har har :sorry
. Sorry, but I think you've got bigger problems with your game, besides being slow, I think you're so critical about everything else that you don't take any responsibility for your own faults. I've got a friend that did the same thing for years.. started getting better when he'd take responsibility and actually paid attention to his mistakes, instead of blaming them on everything else. For example, he missed because somebody said something in the background, not because he single-stroked a warm-up and did something stupid.
you did learn something
he tried to get in your head and it worked.... now he will do it EVERY time he plays you .. you showed a weakness and and gave him a tool that he will use to beat you from now on..
I hope you learned your lesson and in the future try not to give opponents more tools to beat you with.
he tried to get in your head and it worked.... now he will do it EVERY time he plays you .. you showed a weakness and and gave him a tool that he will use to beat you from now on..
I hope you learned your lesson and in the future try not to give opponents more tools to beat you with.
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"thats why people don't want to gamble with you." How would you like to be told this 3 shots into a ONE POCKET match with a player that you "DID" have respect for and in a game that u r the stone cold underdog in. Hey, I want to get better and the only way to do so is play people better than you. Which usually means you are taking the worst of it since you are paying to "LEARN SOMETHING" from this individual.(I guess that is the idea that some people have).Well, what's going to be going thru your head after you are told this?I guess I am too weak minded to not let this affect me.But I did learn a valuable lesson,will never bother with said player again. From a person who talks about other people sharking, I just can't believe this would happen. Thats life in the POOL WORLD I guess.
I won't gamble with a slow player, and it only takes one experience with that person to decide it. Why should I have to pay any portion of table time to watch someone stand there, changing their mind over and over? And even if I win, that table time takes up any winnings- it's a bad bet and a really, really terrible time. Having "the best of it" odds- wise doesn't matter- the whole experience isn't enjoyable or worth the effort.
What gets me most about your post, though, is how angry you sound. I think that's the real issue, and I'm not sure how to respond to that.
it did anger me
For a couple reasons.
One,I am playing in a game that's out of line for the sake of playing and trying to improve.
Two,my opponent is one of the biggest people to point out others that shark players.
Three,I see no possible motive in saying this when we have just begun the first game of a set.
I do not mind when I lose.I just think there are things that should not be said to opponents during a money match.
I know my limitations and don't mind being told.but not at that time.
That is just my opinion.thanks for the replies.
For a couple reasons.
One,I am playing in a game that's out of line for the sake of playing and trying to improve.
Two,my opponent is one of the biggest people to point out others that shark players.
Three,I see no possible motive in saying this when we have just begun the first game of a set.
I do not mind when I lose.I just think there are things that should not be said to opponents during a money match.
I know my limitations and don't mind being told.but not at that time.
That is just my opinion.thanks for the replies.
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You're getting a lot of valuable lessons about yourself, about this guy, and about pool- all in one go. Next time something like this happens, you will have a different reaction. And the next time you might have a different reaction again. Just 6 months from now all these lessons will have stayed and the emotions will be gone. I look at some of my old "WTH?!?" posts and wonder how I got so pissed- but then those things don't trip me up anymore, either.
I know what you're saying but it would serve you well to learn to let those types of comments roll right off your back. The better you get at dealing with frustration the better your game will become, so consider it a free lesson in anger management.
Which, by the way, you failed. Don't feel bad, I did to the first 100 times or so I took the coarse!
You got two choices, keep playing or quit. But if you change the way you play to suit someone else you might as well quit. Maybe you wont get as many money games because of your slow speed, so be it. Would you rather loose money playing outside of your comfort zone just to please someone else.
Whatever you decide I wish you the best.