you want a cue that will improve your game

uneven points for $300

How can a qualified master cuemaker let a cue out of his shop with uneven points? $300 is not a great sum of money... but the amount paid shouldn't conflict with the quality of work that leaves the cuemakers shop IMHO

just glad I didn't get roped into the "best playin cue ever for $300"

I guess I will stick to my BS cues
 
"You're wrong; I ordered one his prototype cues today, and he made it clear that he didn't require a deposit. There's a post somewhere on this site, where someone confirmed that Dean sent him his cue, and that it can - INDEED BE USED AS A POOL CUE."

The above is a quote - I especially like the - indeed be used AS a pool cue. This is getting better all the time. This would be funny as hell if this is a group robbery.
 
Dawgie said:
The above is a quote - I especially like the - indeed be used AS a pool cue. This is getting better all the time. This would be funny as hell if this is a group robbery.
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You cracked the case, my joke is actually evidence of a conspiracy. You guys have got to be some of the most cynical people around. I called the guy up this morning, he didn't answer and I didn't leave a message. He called me back long distance, we chatted, and I liked the cut of his jib - so I ordered one of his cues. It's that simple.
 
Every one that I talked with knows that all of these experimental cues are made by an engineer in Dallaswho is a pool nut of sorts.No one has claimed him to be a master cue maker.The cues are made from Smelke blanks or Dufferin housecues,They are then turned to our taper,both shaft and butt.

I could care less if the points are even ,whether the cue is good looking or not ,these protoypes are for one purpose only I wanted a cue that played better,as I have said "I play much better with this cue than I ever have played"It might not work for you.There is no guarantee of any kind. If iyou play as much better as i do,great! If not tuff.If you think its ugly tuff,if it breaks tuff.If the points are not even tuff.

I might add that Rambo,Balabuhka and other famous cuemakers started this way and their points were not even either.I could even name some hallof fame cuemakers who don't get the points even.

NO pictures would do you any good,I can't tell whether a cue plays good by looking and neither can anyone else.


So I guess it boils down to whether you think I am a crook or not. Nick,Adam, and Grassly have told you that I am an honest person.

Jerry Franklin and Lori spent time at our home,Barry Szamboti and his family spent a week at our ranch,Paul Mottey and his wife visited us at our home.Tim Scruggs has one of these cues at his shop to examine it and see if its any good,he said he could see why I liked it but some people might not.Dennis Glenn bought one because I said I liked it and bought another one because he liked it.(he is the largest collector of Balabushkas and Szamboti in the world)He said he liked the look and didn't expect or care if the points were equal or not.

IT will take 2 or 3 months to get one,and with no deposit.Do you think if someone gets cheated that he won't post it loud and clear.You can bet that if someone can't draw his ball ,he will squeal and you will have plenty of tine to back out.

Figure it out am I worth trusting on a chance play better?

.As for players Ronnie Allen,Verl Horn,Jersey Red and others have played me on my table at home .(As for playing I used the cue when I played Cliff Joyner (even with my magic cue ,he beat my brains out...it does not work miracles)

Not one of the az knockers actually knows me or has hit the cue.Their advice is in the final analysis just a caution to be careful not everything is what it seems to be.Not bad advice,but if you like what you see then join the group of players who still hope to play better and know that some cues are easier to play with.Some have implied this is a scam..without one bit of evidence.

the only way to buy one is to call 214 477 7323 by Jan.15

If you wait too long..tuff


DEAN
 
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I was one of the firsts who ordered one from Dean. Didn't see any pics, nothing, not even the feedback from one of the two buyers who already had one. I, too, tried to make full payment or a deposit, but he wouldn't have none of it. Dean said i could send the payment once the cue is made. Had some requests from him with regards to the cue, and he readily obliged. All this and more while we were talking over the phone - long distance.

I don't know why, but I trust Dean. I really do. And I kid you not!

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AnitoKid said:
I was one of the firsts who ordered one from Dean. Didn't see any pics, nothing, not even the feedback from one of the two buyers who already had one. I, too, tried to make full payment or a deposit, but he wouldn't have none of it. Dean said i could send the payment once the cue is made. Had some requests from him with regards to the cue, and he readily obliged. All this and more while we were talking over the phone - long distance.

I don't know why, but I trust Dean. I really do. And I kid you not!

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same as me , ordered one with no pics or description ,and asked did he want payment he said nope not til cue is done , btw what requests did ya make ? i talked to him on phone for quite awhile , really enjoyed the conversation which was 5% cue talk 95% about life , living , etc etc. im damn glad im on that list and he is fine guy to talk too.
 
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I'd like to start off by saying that the thread I started in the main forum was meant as a joke and that is all. I am not trying to bad mouth Dean in any way. I spoke with him via pm earlier today and I must agree with everyone that he is a decent guy to talk to. Like I said earlier, I hope it's not a scam and so far it's definitely not looking like one.

Regarding the claims that the cue will improve your game, I am a little skeptical. But I am a firm believer that the only thing that will improve your game is time and effort. I simply cannot imagine a miracle to do the work for you. When I first read about the cue, it all sounded to me like a late night infomercial. I did half expect to see KT endorsing it. It will make your game better and it's only available for a limited time at this special price. That was about all I needed to hear before making a decision on whether or not to buy one. My decision was reassured by the fact that Dean did not show any pictures of the cue and did not tell us who made it.

I gave this example to Dean. Imagine if I told you that I was selling a car that would make you a better driver. It looks just like any other sedan and there is nothing really special about it, therefore, you don't need to see any pictures. I can't tell you who makes it nor where it comes from. During this trial period I will be selling the car for $20,000 and will only sell 100 of them at this price. After the first 100 are sold, I will be selling the car for $100,000. Would you honestly buy this car?

At no point was I knocking this cue or Dean. I was only questioning his marketing tactics and giving fair warning to potential buyers. With all that being said, I'm happy to finally see pictures of this mysterious cue and I hope it plays as well as Dean claims.
 
The pictures are out now,the cue was made by an engineer in Dallas who happens to be a pool nut,no one here has ever heard of him .He took my design and turned out one for me I loved it and the rest is history.

I did not talk to DREW I invited him to call me and get his facts straight,but he said on pm that he doesn't have a phone so he can't call,that coupled with the fact that he would not pay over $200 for any cue,made it unprofitable for me to sped time trying to put his mind at ease.
Apparently there are some people who like to talk about things before they get their facts.


The only claim I made is that at age 64 I got this cue and play better with it than I ever have.No miracles are promised and warnings are all over in my thread.IF you can't afford the risk don't buy one,it has worked for every one so far,but it might not work for you.Its just like golf,great break throughs in technology have helped many players using pings to play better,but most of the pros still play blades because thats what they grew up with.
 
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deanoc said:
The pictures are out now,the cue was made by an engineer in Dallas who happens to be a pool nut,no one here has ever heard of him .He took my design and turned out one for me I loved it and the rest is history.

I did not talk to DREW I invited him to call me and get his facts straight,but he said on pm that he doesn't have a phone so he can't call,that coupled with the fact that he would not pay over $200 for any cue,made it unprofitable for me to sped time trying to put his mind at ease.
Apparently there are some people who like to talk about things before they get their facts.


The only claim I made is that at age 64 I got this cue and play better with it than I ever have.No miracles are promised and warnings are all over in my thread.IF you can't afford the risk don't buy one,it has worked for every one so far,but it might not work for you.Its just like golf,great break throughs in technology have helped many players using pings to play better,but most of the pros still play blades because thats what they grew up with.
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hi dean,

how many slots for cues do you hve left?

pls let me know.

thanks,
miles
 
drew

tried to pm, and your pm box is full.

is it true you never really spoke to dean?

smokey
 
Drew said:
I spoke with him via pm earlier today and I must agree with everyone that he is a decent guy to talk to.
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Apparently the 64 yr old Dean cannot understand English. I won't spend more than $200 on a cue because in my opinion no cue is worth more than $200. If I were to someday find a piece of wood I thought was worth that kind of money, then I would buy it. But luckily, there are a lot of excellent sticks in pawn shops for under $100. It just seems like a better value to me. I also informed Dean that I do not have a phone to contact him. What I didn't tell him is that I would not call him even if I did. I prefer to speak through email anyway.

Since he doesn't consider me to be of any use to him, he doesn't feel it is necessary to speak to me. It just makes me wonder what kind of a character he really is. He will be your friend as long as you give him money.

I emptied my pm box.
 
dude why the all the hate ? i spoke with dean for 30 minutes BEFORE even saying i wanted to buy one . that is simple minded to say he only talk to you if you buy something lol. we talked about farming ,life ,etc THEN i mentioned the cue . kinda like posting that thread you made was a dead stab at the man . some folks need to grow up.
 
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dude why the all the hate ? i spoke with dean for 30 minutes BEFORE even saying i wanted to buy one . that is simple minded to say he only talk to you if you buy something lol. we talked about farming ,life ,etc THEN i mentioned the cue . kinda like posting this thread was a dead stab at the man . some folks need to grow up.
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Those were his words, not mine.

deanoc said:
I did not talk to DREW I invited him to call me and get his facts straight,but he said on pm that he doesn't have a phone so he can't call,that coupled with the fact that he would not pay over $200 for any cue,made it unprofitable for me to sped time trying to put his mind at ease.
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I explained where I was coming from, and he calls me a liar. I expressed a few concerns and I'm no longer worth his time.
 
BTW, this cue was never listed as a panacea for all of life's ills. If you are lucky enough to have a great stroke, you can probably play with anything. It won't make you good enough to beat a pro if you were'nt one already. But I liked the cue right away, nonetheless. And besides, no one will want to steal it! In a day where I've blown $500 in an hour in Vegas, spending $300 on this was no issue. If its an issue for others, no worries. In a time when "super shafts" cost upwards of $250, spending $300 for this just wasn't a consideration for me. Spend $200 on a cheap McDermott or try something new ? After hitting with this, it wasn't even close. I was happy I bought this. The coup de gras is the fact that others that have tried this cue have almost universally liked it, so there has to be something to the design. Predator shafts are made with the cheapest wood out there, lose much of their snap in a year or so, are primarily based on drilling a hole in the shaft and no one complains. I'm guessing I'll be buried with this one and it'll still hit well.
tim
 
SSach said:
How can a qualified master cuemaker let a cue out of his shop with uneven points? $300 is not a great sum of money... but the amount paid shouldn't conflict with the quality of work that leaves the cuemakers shop IMHO

just glad I didn't get roped into the "best playin cue ever for $300"

I guess I will stick to my BS cues
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He says this: "If you like it, good... If you don't, tuff. If you can't afford it, don't buy it"... So if you buy one after reading what he says... How are you getting roped? I'm waiting patiently for mine.
 
Bigjohn said:
He says this: "If you like it, good... If you don't, tuff. If you can't afford it, don't buy it"... So if you buy one after reading what he says... How are you getting roped? I'm waiting patiently for mine.
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Yup, this pretty much sums up his attitude.
 
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