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Payment is waiting for job completion,I don`t BS,in my line of work you get shot for that!

What's your zip code, I'll ask Brian to come up with a quote for shipping your table up to you. But I can tell you right now, nothing is leaving the Diamond factory right now because every year at this time, everyone at Diamond is working on the DCC tables, and there won't be a break from that until it starts on the 19th I think, but I'll see what I can do at this end. When I find out something I'll let you know...today!

Glen
 
What's your zip code, I'll ask Brian to come up with a quote for shipping your table up to you. But I can tell you right now, nothing is leaving the Diamond factory right now because every year at this time, everyone at Diamond is working on the DCC tables, and there won't be a break from that until it starts on the 19th I think, but I'll see what I can do at this end. When I find out something I'll let you know...today!

Glen

If it`s going to be that long,do the work on it and send it with Josh,like we had descussed.
 
We just don't pool up, move in for three to five days and leak oil in the driveway, [sorry for the lack of effort]

Let me ask you something Bob. What's the difference between you showing up at a customers home, taking the table apart, leaving with the rails to go work on them, then returning 3-5 days later to finish the job? I don't have a shop to take rails back to....because I bring MY shop with me to the job site...so, what's the difference?...since you like to try and throw that at me:cool:
 
If it`s going to be that long,do the work on it and send it with Josh,like we had descussed.

I've already talked with Josh, even he said that unless he's making a run for Diamond, taking other tables as well, he'd be on the losing end taking your table up to you as a single table setup. Now, what's your zip?
 
I`am sure by the time DCC is done and over there will be deliveries going this way,and Josh said he would luv to do it. code is k6h6c2.I also told Josh,like I told you,I understand expences and could dig a little deeper.
 
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Does anyone remember the days when we all pretty much got along and wanted to work towards the same goal of improving our industry, improve work standards, and increase the quality of customer service? Stand together,lead by example, set the new standard for the rest of the world to follow,learn from and imitate? Regardless of the title we all have something in common- love of the game and what we do to help the sport, a certain amount of pride and a part of ourselves that goes into every table. There isn't one of us who hasn't had a great day and the perfect table, and there isn't one of us that hasn't run into that nitemare job somewhere in the past. Everyone of us has encountered tables that required more work than others, and going into every new job blind we all hope for the best scenario to go in and get it done in a certain amount of time. We do what needs to be done to make the best possible playing and looking table and constantly look for new ways to do it better. Not for someone else, but for ourselves and our customers. That's who we have to prove something to. Ive been called a table mechanic. I reduced myself to an installer after seeing someone with better subrails than mine. I started sending people to mark to have their subrails done. He's the best at it. Until I can do work as good or better than the top echelons, I'm staying right where I'm at. An installer. Granted one who fixes other installer and hacks work, but at the end of the day I can still look at myself and my customers and know that it was another job done right. I can relate to glen- the road is expensive. When everything is going right. Try being 26 hours drive from your house and break down.or get sick. Or in a wreck. Or have a blizzard close the pass in Colorado. Travelling to do tables has a schedule that you try to keep, but life happens. I can also see the otherside and am amazed at anyone having to wait that long for their property to be delivered. Obligating yourself to people in every timezone can get pretty hectic and hard to juggle, and you start moving things around, until you start losing track.you don't admit it and you try to keep everything under control but it still piles up. Nobody can be everywhere and do everything. I tried. I put on more miles than glen. I saw 46 states last year and a lot of them repeatedly. I've had people wait for me, and ive had to wait for people. That was last year. We are in a whole new year. a year that can be stress free and full of advancements. I no longer care about glen opinion or where I am in the food chain. It's irrelevant. Be the absolute best you can be.for yourself and your customers. Isn't that what we are really here for and what we're about? Glen hasn't answered my calls in months- do I get excited? No.I laugh at it. when glen found I was headed to do a room last year and called the room to try taking it I was pissed. especially when he lied to me about it and where he was. Probably a good idea at the time to hide by the way. I'm over it. Nobody controls me or dictates my life or what I do but me or my customers. Stop letting the petty pride and past issues drag us down. Glen this may come as a shock but you won't always be here.you're trying to make your mark while you can. But guess who will be maintaining and continuing everything you're working for? The same guys youre constantly trying to belittle, and a whole lot of guys that will never be even close. I've stayed away working, I've stayed out of the drama and kept my mouth shut. We were a group that was good at what they did and came together to be better.we've all helped each other and referred each other- because we know the job will be done right and the customer will be happy. So someone remind me again- what happened to the mechs of azbilliards?
 
Thank you Shane. Well said. I've stayed out of this thread lately because I don't want to associate myself with the bickering and name-calling. I respect every one of the guys involved and feel honestly like I could call you all friends.

Since my name has been brought into it, Ian, you and I talked about my ability to deliver your table. I offered to deliver it when I brought the other two new tables from the factory up to Canada, and the job wasn't mine to offer to take. I've explained my difficulties getting across the border, along with my schedule difficulties making that happen any time in the next month and the lack of remaining balance in the job to be able to take it.

I hope you take offense to none of that because I do see and respect both sides of this coin. I told you way back 9 months ago that Glen hasn't learned to say no to work, so it stacks up and he stops everywhere he can pick up work in between. He also does have a strong relationship with Diamond, so when something crawls up their priority list, it's in his best interest to get it done. I told you that he would quote you a date and to not hold him to that date because he wouldn't be on time, and I told you it was because he took the extra time to go above expectations on every job.

That being said, I do feel your pain, and I agree you've waited an excessive amount of time for work you've been promised when you could have easily made other arrangements to have the work completed a long time ago, had you not been strung along. I would love to be able to help, but I think at this point, it's out of my hands.
 
You might get some extra work out of this lol. Im doubting a prosecuter will do much with this there is no negative comments just some funny chest puffing, clearly you didnt write this.
 
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You might get some extra work out of this lol. Im doubting a prosecuter will do much with this there is no negative comments just some funny chest puffing, clearly you didnt write this.

But I didn't give him permission to post my name or phone number either, I'll find out if I can press charges Monday, if I can...I will.
 
Good luck I think its funny If you have his number I would just post an ad for free pure bread puppies his phone would ring off the hook.
 
All in good fun, except it's constant jabbing all the time and meant to be malicious. Could have been all in fun until a name and phone number were posted. I think that's crossing the line.

Look, I like and respect all involved in this little AZ circle of friends. The thing is though, if we see weakness in someone, whether it be Glen's schedule, or anyone else's weakness (we all have them, and takes a real man to admit his own faults), we should be able to help that person with that weakness instead of trying to tear him down for it. Yes, customers have every right to be upset. They are paying for the work. We are here to build the industry and raise the standards of the work being done. If instead of banding together to help each other grow and improve, we poke and kick and knock each other down at every given opportunity, how are we any better than the guy we're bashing? What more are we doing for the industry and for our careers?

Think about it, guys. I know we all have our difference...if we didn't, we wouldn't have anything to learn from each other.
 
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